Privacy & Tech Giants

[alecxs]

@kerstin92 actually, Big data is not a conspiracy theory lol xD
btw the BlackRock "conspiracy" is purely from arte documentary, not me (also available in your language)

it seems you are too lazy to read any of my links (or maybe you did not understand what you just read)

so let's pick samsung back-door (you have ask about information about samsung so why you don't read before judging about me?)

The folks over at replicant found a backdoor in the modem which allows it to read/write/modify files on a number of devices:

SamsungGalaxyBackdoor - Replicant

Redmine

redmine.replicant.us

Known affected devices:

Nexus S (I902x
Galaxy S (I9000)
Galaxy S 2 (I9100)
Galaxy Note (N7000)
Galaxy Nexus (I9250)
Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 (P31xx)
Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 (P51xx)
Galaxy S 3 (I9300)
Galaxy Note 2 (N7100)

They also mention a couple of ways to work around this

It wasn't me that drifted away, I only shared xda link as proof thats it's not unusal to ship spyware on stock ROMs, you were the one who actually pointed to "shady" chinese vs "fine" google - for which I have clarified big data is not a chinese phenomenon.

So if you don't believe in technical possibility of remotely powering on your samsung smartphone spying on you while you think it's switched off, I have more basic example for you.

alarm clock is just a regular app, right? what happen if you set alarm and switch phone off?

 

[kerstin92]

I read all your links with great interest (as usual), thanks. Just adding that sometimes you can be "right" in stating technicalities correctly - but the way they're put into a larger picture can be lacking of facts and actual historical context (easily available context that is, nothing exotic or speculative). Concerns about device privacy/security, i.e. tactical considerations, are embedded in questions of strategy, as the very people you're pointing to are strategic actors. You are, of course, correct in that this problem transcends national borders - as global communcation standards necessarily do. The user, however, is a localized individual and so are perpetrators of crimes ("They eat, **** and fart."). Corporations are abstract constructs - criminals, however, are humans. You can't hunt down abstract constructs (e.g. "BlackRock") as this would amount to philosophical discussions and not a criminal persecution or prevention of harm. And the best way to remind yourself of the concreteness (and sometimes banality) of problems is by names, places, biographies, ... (Germans know this so well as many of our streets are named after actual persons).

 

[kerstin92]

alarm clock is just a regular app, right? what happen if you set alarm and switch phone off?

What happens...??

 

[alecxs]

alarm powers on the phone

 

[kerstin92]

Shocking!

 

[LR7875]

So if I were to design a spyware, (A joke. I won’t.) I could hijack the alarm app and let it power on the device, then use GPS to track your location, then sell it to assasins!?

 

[alecxs]

I don't think assassins need any of this, nor they are smart enough to use it, even not if hacker sold it to them. hacker probably would track the assassins instead...

 

[alecxs]

alarm clock is just example to demonstrate that smartphones can't really turned off.

let's give you some realistic use cases

google maps will show you every traffic jam in realtime. how do you think that works?
https://www.google.com/maps/timeline

have you ever used speech-to-text? every single audio record is saved to train speech recognition machine
https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity?restrict=vaa

 

[LR7875]

I don't think assassins need any of this, nor they are smart enough to use it, even not if hacker sold it to them. hacker probably would track the assassins instead...

Don't expect you picking up the details, but yeah if I were a hacker I would probably track and report a few assassins and terrorists and get some money.

 

[LR7875]

alarm clock is just example to demonstrate that smartphones can't really turned off.

let's give you some realistic use cases

google maps will show you every traffic jam in realtime. how do you think that works?
https://www.google.com/maps/timeline

have you ever used speech-to-text? every single audio record is saved to train speech recognition machine
https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity?restrict=vaa

Yep I think Google Assistant could easily speak in my voice and flawlessly replace me in answering my calls, if Google were to.

 

[alecxs]

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[OldNoobOne]

***No Sarcasm. I actually mean it***
@OldNoobOne If I did not misunderstand, your dream phone:

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ahaha..I had one of these nokia phones back decade and a half ago i think, also another LG slide phone, Nokia was on Top back then. I dunno what went wrong with Nokia and Lumia.

 

[OldNoobOne]

GSM still can be location tracked unless you remove battery

Demn I didn't know that, Faraday Pouch to the rescue :-/

 

[OldNoobOne]

Don't expect you picking up the details, but yeah if I were a hacker I would probably track and report a few assassins and terrorists and get some money.

ahaha, the biggest silent-spy i'm guessing could be the the Anti-Virus apps (coz thats the one app that the user willingly gives up access to ALL files in their computers ) and the second one could be the Firewall Apps. One of the most popular firewall apps' Dev even put a "$" symbol right besides the toggle that turns on the firewall.