Project: OpenAndroid aka Open Android Alliance

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jjcd51590

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All i want in this thread is only if you are interested in developing/themeing/ect. for our Open Android Alliance Project. Post requiring info needed.

Open-Android-Alliance Create a fully open source Android OS

The new site is officially up: Home of Open Android Alliance register now everyone


As you all are probably aware Cyanogen has been sent a Cease and Desist order.
The purpose here comes from an idea of Sr. member Doooshty where we should
use this opportunity to get everyone come together and create alternatives to Google'
apps we are calling on anyone with experience who is up to the challenge to set this
straight and out "Android" Google.

People we are rebuilding android as we see fit if you want to Frankenstein it to hell open another
thread... OPEN SOURCE ALL THE WAY if i can not get the source one way or another it is not being used

This however is not about Getting back at google or who was in the wrong in the C&D
This is solely a project about distributing a *Flavor* of android that is fully customizeable
and does not rely on google or other copyrights...

As of now the goal is a Rom (No google at all) that we can make calls from and text
I would like all apps to be developed in house so it is easy to get in contact with the developer if we
want to make any changes or get intouch with the origional developer to make sure they approve.

All apps to be open source not just free and require writtin permission from origional developer giving permission to edit (mainly visually)

THIS IS ALL EXPERIMENTAL AT THIS TIME

We are going to need several things from devs such as:

1. New app store
slideme.org
anddevstore (cant find exact link)
various other new open source projects in process of being developed

Obsidiandesire is looking into the android store

2. New email system
Dev needed

3. New Navigation
Dev needed

4. New IM client
Dev needed

5. YouTube
Dev needed
Talk of porting a .flv player but unclear about content copyright


6. Setup Wizard
(App developers is it possible to create a simple app that is basicly
a drop down with all major carriers APN settings that will
automaticly set at first boot?)

irrenhaus discovered it is a only database change. Any app developers
want to look into this with him?


7. Sync Alternative
Dev needed


8. Browser
(steel, default, opera)
Dev needed

I would like to get permission before using them if possible.


9. Making apps talk to each other.
Dev needed


10. Space for development files.
Anyone?
we Should open one of them google project pages :p jk


11. We need a centeral "stock" theme perhaps we can get some prototypes drawn up. this is so the visual
designers have something they can go against so every app has a sort of "flow" to it and color schemes are
not changing drastically through every app. (this can be changed later)


90% of useful apps come from this website in some way so i believe along with Doooshty and Cyanogen
that this can be accomplished...

CALLING ALL DEVS!!!! If you are interested in taking android away from the chains
of the man post here or send me a private message.

Can anyone create a Rom with no google what so ever to start with so we can see where
we need to go from there?

This is coming along nicely (other then the occasional "This is dumb blah blah blah") I want to thank everyone for taking an interest in this.

Now while other ways may work like loop holes and loading close source apps on the user end at this point it will require one of 2 things either 1. Each developer does it thier own way (which is perfectly fine). or 2 automatically import the closed source apps in via script (which im sure could be painless in itself) while this is easy the visual customization would be alot less user friendly AFAIK such as theming. Say you got that nice new manup theme everything just flows together but u open up a stock browser/email/whatever it really throws off the experiance I may be completely wrong but this is what I think.



Dont get me wrong i love google but id rather not have them stopping development right as we got something new rolling.
Stop Talk. Do Work.
 
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jjcd51590

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Alright

Alright that's good but if there is no market it wont be easily updated i would think without other software.
 

cacahahacaca

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Alright that's good but if there is no market it wont be easily updated i would think without other software.

Well, as far as I understand (and this is TommyPickles' theory) Google was pissed off because Cyanogen included a pre-release version of the new Android Market from Donut.

If that's the case, there would be nothing to prevent him from including the current Cupcake Market (or so I would hope).
 

truthkilla

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F*** it who need those crappy Apps anyways. Just replace them with some that actually work better!
 

jjcd51590

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Aug 28, 2008
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Yea but...

Well, as far as I understand (and this is TommyPickles' theory) Google was pissed off because Cyanogen included a pre-release version of the new Android Market from Donut.

If that's the case, there would be nothing to prevent him from including the current Cupcake Market (or so I would hope).

That could be the case, however what is stopping them from doing it again we need to break the chains here.
 

Freedomcaller

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Jan 24, 2009
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i dont know if you need it or not but i working on a music player as a project for my projects class in school, maybe this can help in some way?
 

nephron

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Meebo IM is free and is much better then the google im app. It has Gtalk, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Facebook Chat, MySpace chat and more :D
 

cyanogen

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cyanogenmod.com
http://slideme.org/ looks like the best replacement for Market.

My concern is with the sync code. You can build the providers from AOSP, but you can't actually sync without doing the registration process, which requires the closed-source SetupWizard and Checkin applications.
 

Freedomcaller

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Hey Every little bit helps im sure we can run it through some test and if we get an alternative store released we can put your project in there

edit: **** my distypesia kicked in...
cool it probably wont be done for a bunch of months tho, as its not due till the end of the simester and the android API has me totaly confused. but it has to get done otherwise i fail the class :-O
 
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jjcd51590

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lol

cool it probably wont be dont for a bunch on months tho, as its not due till the end of the siemster and the android API has me totaly confused. but it has to get done otherwise i fail the class :-O

Well keep us updated no telling how long this is going to take :/

Well any ideas on the Setup or Check in apps what are thier purpose cant we just ditch them and use other methods of syncing?
 
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testing567

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Alright that's good to hear but the main one now is going to be the set up... think we could implement the hero one? I am not sure if that's htc property or Google property any info on this?

We should try to not rely on the Hero roms for anything because the entire thing is considered closed source. The only difference is HTC hasn't complained yet. I'm guessing it will hit the fan with HTC the second a hero rom is ported to a non HTC device.
 

farmatito

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I vote for replacing the browser with steel
and email app with k9-mail.
We need also to patch the installer to be able to install apps to system.
 
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jjcd51590

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True True

We should try to not rely on the Hero roms for anything because the entire thing is considered closed source. The only difference is HTC hasn't complained yet. I'm guessing it will hit the fan with HTC the second a hero rom is ported to a non HTC device.

Yeah your right about that how would a non-Google experience android phone work then anyone know? and i was just throwing ideas around lol thanks for clearing that up
 

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    All i want in this thread is only if you are interested in developing/themeing/ect. for our Open Android Alliance Project. Post requiring info needed.

    Open-Android-Alliance Create a fully open source Android OS

    The new site is officially up: Home of Open Android Alliance register now everyone


    As you all are probably aware Cyanogen has been sent a Cease and Desist order.
    The purpose here comes from an idea of Sr. member Doooshty where we should
    use this opportunity to get everyone come together and create alternatives to Google'
    apps we are calling on anyone with experience who is up to the challenge to set this
    straight and out "Android" Google.

    People we are rebuilding android as we see fit if you want to Frankenstein it to hell open another
    thread... OPEN SOURCE ALL THE WAY if i can not get the source one way or another it is not being used

    This however is not about Getting back at google or who was in the wrong in the C&D
    This is solely a project about distributing a *Flavor* of android that is fully customizeable
    and does not rely on google or other copyrights...

    As of now the goal is a Rom (No google at all) that we can make calls from and text
    I would like all apps to be developed in house so it is easy to get in contact with the developer if we
    want to make any changes or get intouch with the origional developer to make sure they approve.

    All apps to be open source not just free and require writtin permission from origional developer giving permission to edit (mainly visually)

    THIS IS ALL EXPERIMENTAL AT THIS TIME

    We are going to need several things from devs such as:

    1. New app store
    slideme.org
    anddevstore (cant find exact link)
    various other new open source projects in process of being developed

    Obsidiandesire is looking into the android store

    2. New email system
    Dev needed

    3. New Navigation
    Dev needed

    4. New IM client
    Dev needed

    5. YouTube
    Dev needed
    Talk of porting a .flv player but unclear about content copyright


    6. Setup Wizard
    (App developers is it possible to create a simple app that is basicly
    a drop down with all major carriers APN settings that will
    automaticly set at first boot?)

    irrenhaus discovered it is a only database change. Any app developers
    want to look into this with him?


    7. Sync Alternative
    Dev needed


    8. Browser
    (steel, default, opera)
    Dev needed

    I would like to get permission before using them if possible.


    9. Making apps talk to each other.
    Dev needed


    10. Space for development files.
    Anyone?
    we Should open one of them google project pages :p jk


    11. We need a centeral "stock" theme perhaps we can get some prototypes drawn up. this is so the visual
    designers have something they can go against so every app has a sort of "flow" to it and color schemes are
    not changing drastically through every app. (this can be changed later)


    90% of useful apps come from this website in some way so i believe along with Doooshty and Cyanogen
    that this can be accomplished...

    CALLING ALL DEVS!!!! If you are interested in taking android away from the chains
    of the man post here or send me a private message.

    Can anyone create a Rom with no google what so ever to start with so we can see where
    we need to go from there?

    This is coming along nicely (other then the occasional "This is dumb blah blah blah") I want to thank everyone for taking an interest in this.

    Now while other ways may work like loop holes and loading close source apps on the user end at this point it will require one of 2 things either 1. Each developer does it thier own way (which is perfectly fine). or 2 automatically import the closed source apps in via script (which im sure could be painless in itself) while this is easy the visual customization would be alot less user friendly AFAIK such as theming. Say you got that nice new manup theme everything just flows together but u open up a stock browser/email/whatever it really throws off the experiance I may be completely wrong but this is what I think.



    Dont get me wrong i love google but id rather not have them stopping development right as we got something new rolling.
    Stop Talk. Do Work.
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    I completely agree with you that replacing Google and breaking the chains is an important long term goal.

    It certainly is now, if this is going to be Google's attitude.

    Back on the short term solution, couldn't ROM cookers actually include a partial wipe as part of their installer? i.e trash everything on /data/app and /system/app (or /sd/app and /sd/app_s, if you're perverse and insist on that A2SD cobblers :D). Everything that is, apart from the closed source APKs. Not only would you resolve the issue with Google, you'd solve a load of irritating "it doesn't work" posts caused by not wiping.