PSA: Do not enable force RTL Layout in 5.1

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Technogen

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Just thought I would warn everyone to not go poking around and enable 'Force RTL layout direction' it crashes System IU in 5.1. I'm still looking for a way to correct it, but it looks like factory reset is going to be the only answer.
 
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spikejnz

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You have to factory reset, this happened to me and the only way to fix it is to factory reset

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This needs to be stickied.

I also bricked my phone on Wednesday when I selected this option, but I was only partially sure that it was to blame. I spent 2.5 hours on the phone with Motorola this morning, and went from a guy who barely spoke English up to a guy who was very-clearly in the USA, and they confirmed the issue and opened a bug ticket. Don't expect a fix anytime soon.

DO NOT ENABLE THIS FEATURE!
 
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Technogen

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This needs to be stickied.

I also bricked my phone on Wednesday when I selected this option, but I was only partially sure that it was to blame. I spent 2.5 hours on the phone with Motorola this morning, and went from a guy who barely spoke English up to a guy who was very-clearly in the USA, and they confirmed the issue and opened a bug ticket. Don't expect a fix anytime soon.

DO NOT ENABLE THIS FEATURE!

I've spent most of the day getting my phone going again, so annoying setting up accounts again. I was going to go see the new terminator movie this morning but thanks to my turbo I was too angry at droids to go see it....
 
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RichSPK

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Just thought I would warn everyone to not go poking around and enable 'Force RTL layout direction' it crashes System IU in 5.1. I'm still looking for a way to correct it, but it looks like factory reset is going to be the only answer.
What is this option supposed to do?

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ntxct

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What is this option supposed to do?

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RTL is Right to Left.

Basically the option flips all things on android... so in the settings, as it reads from left to right, "wifi - on" the setting is reversed "on - wifi" sort of a setting meant for lefties.. or just those that like toggles on the left side instead of right.
 

spikejnz

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RTL is Right to Left.

Basically the option flips all things on android... so in the settings, as it reads from left to right, "wifi - on" the setting is reversed "on - wifi" sort of a setting meant for lefties.. or just those that like toggles on the left side instead of right.

I can't tell if you're trolling or being serious.

RTL is meant to make the whole phone more convenient for lefties. Your homescreen goes from being the leftmost screen to the rightmost.

Wait, no, it's actually meant to completely **** up all our devices. Yeah, that's it.
 

ntxct

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I can't tell if you're trolling or being serious.

RTL is meant to make the whole phone more convenient for lefties. Your homescreen goes from being the leftmost screen to the rightmost.

Wait, no, it's actually meant to completely **** up all our devices. Yeah, that's it.
I apologize, I apparently offended you. However everything you just said, to me, is exactly what I know RTL to mean, it flips things from Right to Left, thus RTL... is there an aspect I missed?
 
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adrynalyne

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I can't tell if you're trolling or being serious.

RTL is meant to make the whole phone more convenient for lefties. Your homescreen goes from being the leftmost screen to the rightmost.

Wait, no, it's actually meant to completely **** up all our devices. Yeah, that's it.

That's not the only thing it does.

Go try it. ;)
 

spikejnz

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I apologize, I apparently offended you. However everything you just said, to me, is exactly what I know RTL to mean, it flips things from Right to Left, thus RTL... is there an aspect I missed?

I'm not offended, I just LITERALLY couldn't tell if you were trolling. "Wifi off" becomes "off wifi"? That sounds like a joke.
 

drtweak

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Never used this feature nor am i on 5.1 but just tossin my 2 cents. What about using a OTG cable and connect a mouse to it? Not sure to what extent the phone is usable but when my aunt dropped my phome (not even a month old ooooooo i was furious. This is why i dont let people touch my phone. Luckly phone was too new and no refurbs out so they sent me a new one lol) but the digitizer and screen were cracked broken and bleeding. I was going to to fastboot since phone was stuck in camera mode for usb for helium back and no syncing programs setup yet but i tossed on my otg cable and plugged in a mouse and changed usb features, backed up apps to google drive the change usb mode and copied all my files off.

Hope that works for ya

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Technogen

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Never used this feature nor am i on 5.1 but just tossin my 2 cents. What about using a OTG cable and connect a mouse to it?

I wish that would have fixed it, the system is responsive but 'System UI' crashes and there is 0 way to get out of it or access the system after that point. When you power on the phone you don't even make it to the lock screen it just dies.
 
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RTL is Right to Left.

Basically the option flips all things on android... so in the settings, as it reads from left to right, "wifi - on" the setting is reversed "on - wifi" sort of a setting meant for lefties.. or just those that like toggles on the left side instead of right.

I can't tell if you're trolling or being serious.

RTL is meant to make the whole phone more convenient for lefties. Your homescreen goes from being the leftmost screen to the rightmost.

Wait, no, it's actually meant to completely **** up all our devices. Yeah, that's it.

My comment isn't relevant to this post but I just wanted to clear up the misconception about RTL. It isn't for lefties (I'm a lefty, it makes no difference to us), it's for languages that go from right to left, like Arabic. English, French, Spanish etc. go from left to right.
 

ntxct

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My comment isn't relevant to this post but I just wanted to clear up the misconception about RTL. It isn't for lefties (I'm a lefty, it makes no difference to us), it's for languages that go from right to left, like Arabic. English, French, Spanish etc. go from left to right.

I really don't have a dog in this fight but heres where I got my info from, "While most of us are used to left-to-right text, menus, and whatnot, there are certainly users who’d prefer their smartphone or tablet to have right-to-left layouts. Of course, if your device’s system language is one that uses a right-to-left script (like Arabic, or Hebrew), the change from LTR to RTL is done automatically. However, Android allows you to force RTL layouts even when using a left-to-right language. "

Source - PhoneArena

So I'm not saying no or disagreeing, just saying that from that article, apparently RTL languages, once set in the settings automatically switch. I'll start source linking all my info from now on.
 

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    Fix RTL via ADB

    I had this problem on my turbo after reading about a possible fix for snapchat image problems.
    After a bit of googling, I came up with this simple fix.
    This will only work if ADB Debugging is enabled and your PC is already authorized.
    No need for root.

    Code:
    adb devices
    adb shell
    settings put global debug.force_rtl 0
    reboot
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    What is this option supposed to do?

    Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk

    RTL is Right to Left.

    Basically the option flips all things on android... so in the settings, as it reads from left to right, "wifi - on" the setting is reversed "on - wifi" sort of a setting meant for lefties.. or just those that like toggles on the left side instead of right.
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    Just thought I would warn everyone to not go poking around and enable 'Force RTL layout direction' it crashes System IU in 5.1. I'm still looking for a way to correct it, but it looks like factory reset is going to be the only answer.
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    You have to factory reset, this happened to me and the only way to fix it is to factory reset

    Sent from my XT1254 using XDA Forums
    1
    You have to factory reset, this happened to me and the only way to fix it is to factory reset

    Sent from my XT1254 using XDA Forums

    This needs to be stickied.

    I also bricked my phone on Wednesday when I selected this option, but I was only partially sure that it was to blame. I spent 2.5 hours on the phone with Motorola this morning, and went from a guy who barely spoke English up to a guy who was very-clearly in the USA, and they confirmed the issue and opened a bug ticket. Don't expect a fix anytime soon.

    DO NOT ENABLE THIS FEATURE!
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