PSA: OnePlus 3 Cords Non Spec Compliant.

[papi92]

Well here we go again. For OnePlus to actually get dash charging to work they are using non-spec compliant cords. These cords, if not used in a dash charger, will potentially break your phone and/or wall plug. They do not regulate currents probably and will allow the phone to try and pull more wattage than the wall plug/USB port can provide. This can create high temperatures at the port of the phone and port of the wall plug. DO NOT USE THESE CORDS UNLESS IT IS IN A DASH CHARGER

 

[washichi]

do you have a source?

cause I think the cords are just the same, but thicker to handle the high current.
So you can use it on every usb-c device, it is even more safe than most other cords.


" ... and will allow the phone to try and pull more wattage than the wall plug/USB port can provide"
the Cord can't "ask" for more wattage, the cord is only the way through.

 

[papi92]

do you have a source?

cause I think the cords are just the same, but thicker to handle the high current.
So you can use it on every usb-c device, it is even more safe than most other cords.


" ... and will allow the phone to try and pull more wattage than the wall plug/USB port can provide"
the Cord can't "ask" for more wattage, the cord is only the way through.

The cord, with a proper regulator, should limit how much wattage the phone is trying to pull since it's USB C. But OnePlus's cord does not. Go to the Google Play Store and search USB C Test and the application should come up to show its non-compliant.

 

[Dany-69]

So now the cord has a "regulator"... ?
Man, tell me your dealer..

 

[matejdro]

Does USB C test work on OP3 or does it need a Nexus?

 

[js931]

The cable actually matters and can destroy devices if not USB-C compliant. A Google engineer tests a lot of cables after destroying his Chromebook. Read up here: https://m.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3robzo/google_spreadsheet_for_usbc_cables_with_benson/


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[jpswer]

On what basis do you say this! It has the right resistor. The app you talk about only passes if the product supports full USB-C USB 3.0 I believe. Try on a Nexus or something

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[mikey1975]

Unless you tinker with the specific (kernel) settings, how can a phone try to pull and use more power?
The phone can only receive the amount of power wich the outlet of the wall charger/USB connection provides?? The only thing I can think of is the specific recistance of the original OP3 USB-C cable.
The less recistance, the more power the phone could recieve, but normally not more than the output of the connected power source.

Pls correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[papi92]

Unless you tinker with the specific (kernel) settings, how can a phone try to pull and use more power?
The phone can only receive the amount of power wich the outlet of the wall charger/USB connection provides?? The only thing I can think of is the specific recistance of the original OP3 USB-C cable.
The less recistance, the more power the phone could recieve, but normally not more than the output of the connected power source.

Pls correct me if I'm wrong.

The phone will always request the maximum the cable can provide. If the cable is not properly made it will always report 5v 4amp. Since, it is reporting the 5v 4amp, it is allowing the phone to try and get that amount. This means the wall plug, if not a dash charger, is now being over taxed and will overheat to try and provide it.

 

[papi92]

On what basis do you say this! It has the right resistor. The app you talk about only passes if the product supports full USB-C USB 3.0 I believe. Try on a Nexus or something

That app is for any device. The cables are crap. Only use them for the dash charger. Don't stick them in your computer or non dash charger.

 

[jpswer]

That app is for any device. The cables are crap. Only use them for the dash charger. Don't stick them in your computer or non dash charger.

I'm still not understanding exactly what you think is wrong with the cables? They have been said to have the correct resistor which is what caused issues with the other Cables.

The cables are said to have extra tech in them but I can't see why they wouldn't be dangerous or if anything similar was reported with VOOC cables.

If you are talking about CheckR:

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[papi92]

I'm still not understanding exactly what you think is wrong with the cables? They have been said to have the correct resistor which is what caused issues with the other Cables.

The cables are said to have extra tech in them but I can't see why they wouldn't be dangerous or if anything similar was reported with VOOC cables.

If you are talking about CheckR:

I tested the cable on my Nexus 6P. The cable is not to spec. Just get over it. Just use it with the dash charger and nothing else.

 

[_PrEzi_]

That app is for any device. The cables are crap. Only use them for the dash charger. Don't stick them in your computer or non dash charger.

Already did that and you know what ?
Nothing blew up.
Stop spreading FUD.

If the source provides X a cable can't magically make it Y.
Else I would buy only such cables and lay it throughout my home wiring (to provide me more than the meter will count and add to my bill).

Besides OP3 specified it as "USB 2.0, Type-C".
Means basically - USB Type C plug, but 2.0 Standard.
https://oneplus.net/uk/3/specs

Stop spreading FUD.

 

[papi92]

Already did that and you know what ?
Nothing blew up.
Stop spreading FUD.

If the source provides X a cable can't magically make it Y.
Else I would buy only such cables and lay it throughout my home wiring (to provide me more than the meter will count and add to my bill).

Besides OP3 specified it as "USB 2.0, Type-C".
Means basically - USB Type C plug, but 2.0 Standard.
https://oneplus.net/uk/3/specs

Stop spreading FUD.

I'm telling you it's not in spec. I'm not saying your phone will blow up. I'm not saying it will happen. But it COULD. It's more likely when the cord is not of spec.

 

[_PrEzi_]

I'm telling you it's not in spec. I'm not saying your phone will blow up. I'm not saying it will happen. But it COULD. It's more likely when the cord is not of spec.

Yeah, whatever.
I won't argue with you, because it seems we are on different levels, and you are far better on your level then I would ever be if I'd try to lower mine.

 

[jpswer]

I tested the cable on my Nexus 6P. The cable is not to spec. Just get over it. Just use it with the dash charger and nothing else.

Thanks for clarifying you're using a Nexus 6P. Sorry but I trust OnePlus more than an app which maybe could be being confused by the tech. Until someone (like Benson Leung) tells me it's dangerous I'll be happily plugging it in to whatever.

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[Squabl]

I tested the cable on my Nexus 6P. The cable is not to spec. Just get over it. Just use it with the dash charger and nothing else.

I'm telling you it's not in spec. I'm not saying your phone will blow up. I'm not saying it will happen. But it COULD. It's more likely when the cord is not of spec.

As you have Nexus 6P, please could you make this test and report the results? Oneplus cable is not USB Type-C compliant because it's USB2 cable but that doesn't mean it's automatically unsafe or dangerous to use with third party chargers or to plug it to pc's. Please, could you do that test and report the results. :fingers-crossed:

Edit:
Quote from linked website:

"6P
adb shell “cat /sys/class/typec/typec_device/current_detect”

Or from a shell on the phone
cat /sys/class/typec/typec_device/current_detect

Results:

If the result is 2 an A to C cable is non-compliant

Possible values
0 – standard USB charging
1 – 1.5A type C
2 – 3A type C

https://bmcclure937.wordpress.com/2015/11/13/how-to-test-usb-c-cables-nexus-5x-and-nexus-6p/

If the cable test would report value 2, then it would indicate that the cable allows phone to draw too much current from the charger and could potentially be dangerous to pc's or wallchargers.

 

[samnaction]

I already charged the phone with a power bank and provided oneplus cable.

 

[inffy]

I tested the cable on my Nexus 6P. The cable is not to spec. Just get over it. Just use it with the dash charger and nothing else.

Of course the app shows it is not spec compliant as it only checks it to show with USB-C spec

As it's a dash charging cable it won't be spec compliant with USB-C. It doesn't mean it will harm your device as there are circuits in the cable and the connector.

 

[Gardakan]

Of course the app shows it is not spec compliant as it only checks it to show with USB-C spec

As it's a dash charging cable it won't be spec compliant with USB-C. It doesn't mean it will harm your device as there are circuits in the cable and the connector.

Well, I think what we all need is a reliable source on the subject. Speculation won't lead us very far...

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