[Q] 2 roms questions

[brianmoyano]

Hi, sorry if this thread is short, but i have two question blowing my mind.


1: Why don't whe have a 4.0.4 Cyanogenmod Rom?


2: And can we have a stock 4.1.2 rom? I mean, with motoblur, not cyanogenmod or that kinda variants

I know that motorola isn't collaborating with its upgrades. But, there is any chance?

 

[tchsvy]

First of all the boot loader is locked that means no custom kernel that means no proper CM builds, still there is an unofficial CM ROM in the development section take a look at it. And don't forget the funda "search before you post"..

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[brianmoyano]

First of all the boot loader is locked that means no custom kernel that means no proper CM builds, still there is an unofficial CM ROM in the development section take a look at it. And don't forget the funda "search before you post"..

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You don't get me at all. I know that there's 3 roms of 4.1.2 CM.

And this was my comment about that, but no ones answers me:

I know that is hard, and i really really really apreciate the work that they're doing.
But, we have 3 roms of cyanogenmod, and the 3 roms have the same bugs.
I repeat. I know, they can't spend the whole free-time that you have working in the creation of the rom. But, why don't you team up and make a unique functional rom.
Or, am i missing something, and for the moment we can't have a functional rom because of motorola or whatever?
I repeat again, sorry if i'm bothering someone, but i ask this from my ignorance.

 

[jimbridgman]

You don't get me at all. I know that there's 3 roms of 4.1.2 CM.

And this was my comment about that, but no ones answers me:

I know that is hard, and i really really really apreciate the work that they're doing.
But, we have 3 roms of cyanogenmod, and the 3 roms have the same bugs.
I repeat. I know, they can't spend the whole free-time that you have working in the creation of the rom. But, why don't you team up and make a unique functional rom.
Or, am i missing something, and for the moment we can't have a functional rom because of motorola or whatever?
I repeat again, sorry if i'm bothering someone, but i ask this from my ignorance.

Then learn how to build your own freaking ROM, and why even start a NEW thread with this junk, it all fits in the CM Q&A thread.

These types of threads are not cool to your dev team. We all work very hard to bring the stuff that we do, to you guys, for free.

If you do not like the bugs in the CM based roms that we have then do not use them and stick to stock and stop basically complaining about it, or do some reading and learn about the process and see why we have these issues, we have all posted about it so many times now it is not even funny.

I saw your post before and chose to ignore it, but now that you have posted a new thread like this, I just had to reply.

--EDIT--

And to answer the questions you put in the first post here:

1) because the source for CM10 with 4.0.4 is not out anymore
2) because motorola will not release a 4.1 or 4.2 stock ROM and kernel, so we can not port that, even our 4.1 and 4.2 CM based roms are still really 4.0.4 because we still have the 4.0.4 version of the kernel underneath.

Again all this has been spelled out too many times now and some reading and searching could have gotten your answers.

 

[brianmoyano]

Then learn how to build your own freaking ROM, and why even start a NEW thread with this junk, it all fits in the CM Q&A thread.

These types of threads are not cool to your dev team. We all work very hard to bring the stuff that we do, to you guys, for free.

If you do not like the bugs in the CM based roms that we have then do not use them and stick to stock and stop basically complaining about it, or do some reading and learn about the process and see why we have these issues, we have all posted about it so many times now it is not even funny.

I saw your post before and chose to ignore it, but now that you have posted a new thread like this, I just had to reply.

--EDIT--

And to answer the questions you put in the first post here:

1) because the source for CM10 with 4.0.4 is not out anymore
2) because motorola will not release a 4.1 or 4.2 stock ROM and kernel, so we can not port that, even our 4.1 and 4.2 CM based roms are still really 4.0.4 because we still have the 4.0.4 version of the kernel underneath.

Again all this has been spelled out too many times now and some reading and searching could have gotten your answers.

I already said this, but, i do not want you to get mad.
If you can't response a single question without freaking out, then, don't answer.
I just gave an opinion, like i said, from my ignorance.

 

[jimbridgman]

I already said this, but, i do not want you to get mad.
If you can't response a single question without freaking out, then, don't answer.
I just gave an opinion, like i said, from my ignorance.

I am not mad BTW, I am just tired of people not doing their own research. You are more than welcome to do some reading on compiling Cyanogenmod, so that you understand what we are up against. Also try searching for compiling cyanogenmod on locked bootloaders.

We (all the A2 devs), have answered these same questions so many times now, it is not even funny. It seems that as of late people have gotten more and more lazy in here, and we just keep hashing the same crap over and over again.

You say it is from your own ignorance, but you do not have to be ignorant, just use the search function or do some reading on your own and find what you need. And I do not want to hear excuses or complaints about the search function, I use it all the time, all you have to do is play with the wording until you find what you want. Also note other devs did not answer your original query either, for probably the same reason, not to put words in their mouth's either.

But, why don't you team up and make a unique functional rom.

Also I hate to tell you but most of your devs do "team up" and we work together on our IRC chat room to do dev work, but again reading around the forms would have also told you that as well, as we talk about it quite often.

 

[alteredlikeness]

You don't get me at all. I know that there's 3 roms of 4.1.2 CM.

And this was my comment about that, but no ones answers me:

I think only PA is 4.1.2 so far.. the others are 4.1.1, I think

And Jim's right, I also saw your post in the PA thread and started to reply, but discarded it because I felt I was sounding too mean.. let me try again:

I can say from my personal experience and (relatively low) skill level - it's a mess trying to get all the pieces in place to compile a working ROM from source code for our phone - specifically, the vendor and device files..
I know at least a few A2 devs are working to straighten things out for Edison directly - and a few others working on other Motos with similar hardware and locked bootloaders, which benefits us all.

It's probably safe to say that our phone is in the early stages of true ROM development (as opposed to derivative pseudo-roms and ports) - there is still a lot of work to be done to get something truly stable.

Again, please be patient, or learn and contribute... don't stir the pot.

Sent from my paranoid phone's mind