[Q&A] No Root? Why? What do you miss about root? Let's find workarounds!

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slaybad

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Mar 12, 2013
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this great phone needs root!!!

get rid of annoying ads,titanium for selectable data backup and freezing apps.Also full customizable ui many many mods and plus some kernel related goodies(double tap to wake etc).
 

diviajar1969

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Apr 29, 2012
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I'll root my note 4 (it'll be here in about 5 days) to be able to block ads on youtube and mainly to add aps to multiwindow, like lecture notes.
 

raggamuffin

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First device in a LONG line of handsets to not have been rooted within the first week.

Why? I'm not sure to honest. Something different perhaps? :)

What do I miss?

Viper4Android, Adaway and TB are at the top of my list.
 

diviajar1969

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Apr 29, 2012
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Good luck with that. Unless you got the developers version, we still don't have perm root.

Actually, now I have my note 4 and I've decided not to root. Why? I've could do all of the things I wanted without rooting.

In order to add apps to multiwindow/popup, I've purchased the app MW-Pen App Enabler. With it, up to now I could make everything I wanted work on popup/multiwindow, including Lecture Notes (my favorite app).

For the ads, I've tried Adguard and it blocks everything I've tried it with. Anyway, I don't mind the ads on my note 4, because the screen is so big. On a small screen it was more of an annoyance. I'll use Adguard if I come accross a situation where I need to stop ads for a while.

I'm looking for an app to use my homescreen on landscape. The apps I've tried til now made it landscape, but some icons aren't visible in landscape mode. There is always Nova Launcher...

I love this phone!
 

akoo0o

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what's the best way to root n910h on android 5.1.1 ? flashed the stock firmware (android 5.1.1) via odin, then i flashed the twrp recovery but the phone stuck at bootloop !
 

ShrekOpher

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Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra
You can use the new systemless root method from SuperSu.Zip v2.64 its kind of halfway between. It let's you have root access without giving you the ability to mess with the system to much.
 

terryowen

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Apr 8, 2009
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My Note 2 died any ugly death a month ago and I just bought a gently used Note 4 (AT&T) because I miss the larger screen (currently using an Xperia Z2). I have rooted all my phones since the G1 but never bothered to even try rooting my tablet (Note 8.0) so I didn't think no-root would be a big deal for the Note 4. BUT I desperately need to be able to do screenshots. The tablet uses the S-pen, which I can live with but the no-root screenshot app I just bought forces you to use the power button/volume combo. For reasons, this is a no-go for me. I have not been able to find a way to do screenshots like the tablet, just this stupid S-pen air dial that only works half the time.

Update: just Googling to try and find a way to make the S-pen act useful didn't get me anywhere (still looking) but I did see that a palm swipe supposedly captures the screen (it did about a third of the times I tried it but I have mobility issues due to an injury so not dependable) and also that Home-Power will do a screenshot. It mostly works, will have to try it with the case on to see if my wrist can still handle it. I'd so much rather be able to use my Screenshot ER. :(
 
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nine5raptor

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My Note 2 died any ugly death a month ago and I just bought a gently used Note 4 (AT&T) because I miss the larger screen (currently using an Xperia Z2). I have rooted all my phones since the G1 but never bothered to even try rooting my tablet (Note 8.0) so I didn't think no-root would be a big deal for the Note 4. BUT I desperately need to be able to do screenshots. The tablet uses the S-pen, which I can live with but the no-root screenshot app I just bought forces you to use the power button/volume combo. For reasons, this is a no-go for me. I have not been able to find a way to do screenshots like the tablet, just this stupid S-pen air dial that only works half the time.

Update: just Googling to try and find a way to make the S-pen act useful didn't get me anywhere (still looking) but I did see that a palm swipe supposedly captures the screen (it did about a third of the times I tried it but I have mobility issues due to an injury so not dependable) and also that Home-Power will do a screenshot. It mostly works, will have to try it with the case on to see if my wrist can still handle it. I'd so much rather be able to use my Screenshot ER. :(

May not be what you want to hear, but what about selling the 910A and buying the 910T (t-mobile version). Compatible with att and has unlocked bootloader. Can easily root and likely install your app.

Sent from my SM-N910T using XDA Free mobile app
 

dr.javed.iqbal.amc

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Jul 15, 2016
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My Note 2 died any ugly death a month ago and I just bought a gently used Note 4 (AT&T) because I miss the larger screen (currently using an Xperia Z2). I have rooted all my phones since the G1 but never bothered to even try rooting my tablet (Note 8.0) so I didn't think no-root would be a big deal for the Note 4. BUT I desperately need to be able to do screenshots. The tablet uses the S-pen, which I can live with but the no-root screenshot app I just bought forces you to use the power button/volume combo. For reasons, this is a no-go for me. I have not been able to find a way to do screenshots like the tablet, just this stupid S-pen air dial that only works half the time.

Update: just Googling to try and find a way to make the S-pen act useful didn't get me anywhere (still looking) but I did see that a palm swipe supposedly captures the screen (it did about a third of the times I tried it but I have mobility issues due to an injury so not dependable) and also that Home-Power will do a screenshot. It mostly works, will have to try it with the case on to see if my wrist can still handle it. I'd so much rather be able to use my Screenshot ER. :(
Y not use the in built assistant menu, if the only issue is of frequent screen shots, or use a gesture app like Easy touch etc
 

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    ROUNDUP OF NON-ROOT MODS/APPS/SOLUTIONS


    APPS

    1. iFont
    It uses the native Flipfont system present in the Note to change fonts. You can install any font from a very big list and if you buy the Donate version (which I highly recommend), you can make an installable apk for any font you want. I have already made and shared Roboto L fonts, Comic Sans and Comic Neue.

    2. Adblock Plus
    Works on WiFi and (if APN settings are edited) on mobile data, blocks apps on browsers and other apps. An excellent solution for ad-blocking on non-routed phones.
    2b. An alternative solution that only works for browsing via WiFi networks is Adguard.

    3. SMS Backup & Restore
    A free app that can backup and restore your messages, no root required. Works flawlessly, I used to it to backup my SMS on my S4 and restore them to my Note 4.

    4. Greenify
    As mentioned in this thread, Greenify works without root as well. Automatic hibernation is even an option, albeit some issues with "talking calculator" have been mentioned.

    5. My Backup
    As mentioned here this app is a feature-rich backup solution for non-rooted phones.

    6. SD Maid - System Cleaning Tool
    This app attempts to make best possible use of its features without root present. It's a tool that cleans up unnecessary files from your phone that apps leave behind.

    7. AutoStart - No root
    As the name suggests, this app lets you select which applications you want to auto start after phone boot-up and it works on all phones/tablets without root permission. You can also choose one or multiple apps to auto-launch at boot with customisable delay values.

    8. Busybox (No Root)
    For advanced users who want to run busybox commands on their phones via the Android Terminal Emulator app.

    9. Call Recorder
    Call recording app that uses the Samsung standard API therefore does not require root access. It is a bit pricey but well worth the money for people who need that feature. There's a full-featured trial available from XDA so you can try before you buy.
    9b. There is also a free alternative that has been reported to work well on the Note 4, AndroRec Free.
    9c. Another great free alternative is Automatic Call Recorder, with the added bonus that it can record in better formats, like mp3 or wav, save on the SD card and the option for prompt to "Save or Delete" at the end of every call.

    10. NoRoot Firewall
    Firewall without root. Host name/domain name filtering, simple interface, fine-grained access control and no suspicious permissions on the app itself.

    11. Better Wifi On/Off
    A free, fully featured, ad-supported app that aims at giving you the control of the Wifi state, optimizing your battery life without losing on user experience. In theory, Wifi is less power hungry than 3G but some apps behave differently when Wifi is on (DropBox / Google+ uploads, Google Maps location caching) and the well known wlan_rx kernel wakelock is a symptom of wakeups caused by uncontrolled Wifi hotspots. The Wifi sleep policy is not working consistently and does not solve all the above problems, enter this app.

    12. Helium - App Sync and Backup
    Helium is the missing app sync and backup solution for Android and doe not require root. You can backup both your apps and their data to your SD card or cloud storage and sync them from your other Android devices. You need access to a computer for a brief USB connection and then you're good to go.

    13. Desktop VisualizeR
    Application that allows you to personalize your home screen by creating icons or widgets with your favorite photos or images, works on any launcher, even TW!

    14. FREE screen recorder NO ROOT
    Recordable is the easy way to create screen recordings without root. The free version adds a watermark on the recordings and limits frame rate to 8fps, but is otherwise fully functional. A Windows, Mac or Linux computer required to complete the installation (like with Helium Backup), but after this it's not needed to make screen recordings.


    MODIFICATIONS

    1. Full Screen Immersive Mode
    Full screen immersive mode in any application or game, root is not required.

    2.Enable AirView and AirGesture
    2b. Instead of Nova Launcher, you can use the QuickShortcutMaker app to create any shortcut directly on the Touchwiz launcher.

    3. MW-Pen App Enabler
    This app that enables apps for multiwindow and/or pen window without rooted access. The only limitations are that it does not work for system apps and that enabled apps can not be updated. To update them, you need to uninstall the enabled app first, install the updated app and run it through the enabler app again.

    4. Mont Blanc digital content
    A guide on how to get the extra Mont blanc pens for the S Note and the two exclusive Mont Blanc wallpapers and unlock effect..

    5. QuickClick
    Start any action (flashlight, system toggles, media controls, etc) with a sequence of volume buttons clicks.

    6. Spen Toolbox
    A wonderful little app that extends the functionality of the S-Pen, by offering options for: turning the screen off when you attach the pen, changing the detach and attach sounds, creating a custom shortcut popup to appear on detach, and many more!

    7. No root and want to modify your DPI? You can!
    Thanks to PizzaSauce, we have a way to modify DPI without root. All you need is access to a Windows PC. Changes persist after reboot too.
    If you don't want to install the whole Android SDK, you could use this tool to install ADB, which is all that is needed for this mod.



    Hello all!

    I recently got my Note 4 and it's by far the best device I've ever owned. :)
    I started this thread because I decided not to root the phone -at least for now. Even though, I've been rooting and heavily modding all my phones in the past.
    My reasons are:
    1. Warranty.
    I know that you can flash a stock firmware before handing it to service and that KNOX counter doesn't matter (I've had my Note 10.1 with a tripped counter repaired twice under warranty). However, I'd like for once to be able to just send my phone to service if need be, without the extra hassle of concealing the tweaking I've done.
    2. S-Pen.
    I know that rooting doesn't affect the S-Pen functionality, however, the use of the Pen makes custom ROMS such as AOSP and CM useless to me. I actually use the S-Pen heavily and it was one of the reasons I bought the phone. There are of course custom TW ROMS but to be honest, and with no intention to offend anyone, they are not my cup of tea.
    3. Stability.
    This one will seem weird to many, but it's my personal experience. This is the 4th Samsung device I own (SGS3, SGS4, Note 10.1, Note 4) and with the previous three I noticed that when I rooted and enthusiastically started "debloating", things started to turn unstable. And I have never, ever noticed any improvement in battery life. I know it sounds odd, but it is true to me. The Note 4 gives you the option to disable a lot of preinstalled apps anyway.
    4. Lollipop.
    I want to get the update that was meant for my region via OTA, no cables necessary. Plus I believe that all the annoyances I rectified with root (mainly theming, such as Tinted Statusbar) will be solved in Lollipop. Again, that's my opinion and personal taste.

    Now do I miss root? Hell, yeah! Why?
    1. ADS ADS ADS...
    Ads everywhere! I have been paying for my apps and I am not using pirated software at all. And I gladly donate/pay for ads to be removed and premium features for apps I really love. However, there are apps that either don't offer an a ad-free option or they charge an insane amount for ad removal. I know developers need to make revenue, but there's nothing uglier than an ad banner. Seriously.
    2. Tinted statusbar.
    And generally Xposed.
    3. Call recording.
    I liked the native call recording function of the TW dialer, no app comes close from what I've seen.


    I hope this thread will be used to discuss unrooted phones and ways to mod your device without root.
    Kindly keep in mind that this is not a thread to persuade anyone to root or not -please respect other people's decisions.
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    MontBlanc Digital Content Tutorial

    MontBlanc Digital Content Tutorial

    Hello all! I decided to make this small tutorial for the Mont Blanc digital content that we can now get without buying the Montblanc case or pen.
    (The OP also links to this post now.)

    Installing the app is pretty straightforward, just download it from this post and install as you would any apk.

    After installation, you will not see a new app on your app drawer, so don't go looking for it. :p

    Firstly, you will have two new wallpapers in the default wallpaper chooser, accessible via long-pressing the menu key while on your homescreen > Wallpapers. Secondly, you will have an "Ink in water" unlock effect, found in Settings > Lockscreen > Unlock effect (provided that Swipe has been selected as screen lock).

    As far as S-Note goes, any existing notebooks you've made will continue to use the same template you chose the first time and the pen toolbox will remain unchanged. This is where a lot of people get confused, thinking that something went wrong because they can't see the new pens. You have to create a new notebook. Once you do that, you will see that the regular pens have been replaced with Mont Blanc ones and the page background has a Mont Blanc logo watermark on it. Enjoy! Now every notebook you create will have the same page template and available pens, as well as a black leather image as cover.

    But how do you go back to default S-Note templates, covers and pens?
    You don't need to uninstall the Mont Blanc app. Simply drag the menu on the left from the S-Note main screen, select More features > Montblanc and untick Set Montblanc as default note. Now all your new notebooks will use the same ol' settings.
    What I've done is I've created a Montblanc notebook, then turned the option off. Now I can create notebooks with any template I want and I still have one with all the extra features, just because it looks cool.

    But what if you still want to uninstall the app?
    From the same menu as above, choose Go to download screen. It will get you to Samsung Apps where you'll see the option to completely uninstall.

    That's it! I hope it solves questions and issues regarding the extra features.

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    I assume you already know this and I usually leave this to others but still has to be said:

    You have come to a "modification and development" site basically for "rooters and modders" and are pitching why you shouldn't root and all the lovely "work-a-rounds" to do so.

    This is stuff better suited elsewhere but to each their own I guess.. We surprisingly see enough of it here already I suppose.

    I never mind the debate though!

    Seeing as I've been a part of the moderating team, yes, I am very well aware of the nature of the website. Looking at my thanks meter, you may even say that I also know very well how to help and give back to the community.

    I wonder whether you know that this website started as a place for developers to discuss and publish their work, hence the name xda-developers. However, here we are, you and me along with millions of users who do not produce any development work. We talk about screen protectors, cases, upcoming updates, how much our battery lasts, what colour is our phone, which network operator is the best and so on and so forth.
    See the paradox already?

    I couldn't possibly assess your reading comprehension level, but, I won't lie to you, I am a little concerned. I never wrote anything that even remotely implies that this thread is a crusade against root. Taken directly from the OP:
    Kindly keep in mind that this is not a thread to persuade anyone to root or not -please respect other people's decisions.
    It's meant for people who already made the decision not to, providing them with solutions and workarounds. And yes, they are lovely! And they are apps and mods that developers created. Hence, completely appropriate for a place like this.
    Furthermore, apart from people who do not want to root, there are also people who just cannot (locked bootloaders, for example).
    Bottom line is, the thread is way more useful and appropriate than all of the threads you have started here combined.

    On top of all that, this is a civil, informative and free from off topic posts (apart from yours) thread and I would like it to remain this way. Because, for a change, people may actually find helpful advice and suggestions. Which is why it has 8000+ views already and a lot of people are following and contributing to it.

    I don't know why you suddenly decided to quote the OP, without even reading it carefully enough to understand the purpose of it, and make a comment like that. But please, do us all a favour and follow this 'debate' quietly, since you "never mind it" and it only exists in your head anyway.
    Thank you.

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    With Lollipop already out for some variants and probably coming out soon for others, there are a lot of no-root tweaks that can be applied. I can't wait to discover them and update the OP! Well excited for this update! :)
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    On a slightly unrelated note, I find TW to be way more stable on the Note 4 than it was on my previous Samsung phones. I just realised that I got my phone about 11 days ago, turned it on and set it up and I haven't rebooted/had a random reboot ever since! And that's without rooting and meddling with the software at all. No slow down, no hiccups, everything runs as smoothly as it did on day 1. :)

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