[Q] Activate GSM/WCDMA Radios

matthew5025

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Eh?
2 versions of this phone.
1. VZW version aka the DROID RAZR/XT912 --> CDMA/LTE radio
2. Global version aka MOTO RAZR/XT910 --> GSM/WCDMA/HSPA
 

blkrabb1t

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Eh?
2 versions of this phone.
1. VZW version aka the DROID RAZR/XT912 --> CDMA/LTE radio
2. Global version aka MOTO RAZR/XT910 --> GSM/WCDMA/HSPA
Both versions have a GSM/WCDMA/HSPA chipset, but GSM capability has been disabled in the Verizon phone. Interestingly, the RAZR uses the Qualcomm MDM6600...which is capable of all the aforementioned networks.

As for activating the GSM radio in the Verizon version... my guess is that it will require a custom kernel of some sort...
 

Chirality

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Both versions have a GSM/WCDMA/HSPA chipset, but GSM capability has been disabled in the Verizon phone. Interestingly, the RAZR uses the Qualcomm MDM6600...which is capable of all the aforementioned networks.

As for activating the GSM radio in the Verizon version... my guess is that it will require a custom kernel of some sort...
The RAZR uses the TI OMAP4430, which doesn't have any built-in radios. There's no reason why the Verizon version should have GSM/WCDMA radios.
 

blkrabb1t

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The RAZR uses the TI OMAP4430, which doesn't have any built-in radios. There's no reason why the Verizon version should have GSM/WCDMA radios.
The MDM6600 is actually a modem, and not a SoC if that's what you were thinking. It's used on all of Verizon's current global phones, including the iPhone.

From the FCC on the Bionic:
The WCDMA/GSM network functions have been disabled by the firmware and are SIM locked by all US operators on this product.
And Anandtech:
...This power amp is actually quad band 850/900/1800/1900 MHz. In its shipping form, the Bionic is limited to just 850/1900 for CDMA2000 in the USA, however, I have very little doubt this device could also be used with WCDMA on all four bands with some tweaking. FCC documents also talk about WCDMA functionality being disabled...
 
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Beach_Head

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I was thinking along the same lines.

I have a Photon and the GSM bands are locked from being used on other US carriers. There have beem discussions that the radio files are what need to be changed/hacked. I wonder if the premise would be the same as I'd love to make this a global phone...

Both versions have a GSM/WCDMA/HSPA chipset, but GSM capability has been disabled in the Verizon phone. Interestingly, the RAZR uses the Qualcomm MDM6600...which is capable of all the aforementioned networks.

As for activating the GSM radio in the Verizon version... my guess is that it will require a custom kernel of some sort...
 

kholk

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Modifying AMSS is really dangerous and I don't think it will be possible even after a bootloader unlock as radio is protected with another "lock code". It should be unlocked only on Engineering devices.
 

Beach_Head

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Would it be possible to load the radios of the GSM version onto it?

Modifying AMSS is really dangerous and I don't think it will be possible even after a bootloader unlock as radio is protected with another "lock code". It should be unlocked only on Engineering devices.
 

blkrabb1t

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Would it be possible to load the radios of the GSM version onto it?
If there is one thing that Moto locks its boot loader, it's specifically for that.

From what I remember, Moto has some proprietary stuff there, so cracking that will get you into a lot of legal trouble...

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kholk

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Loading GSM radio on it won't brick it as the chip is the same, MDM6600.
The problem is loading it: the different radio bootloader (that isn't the AP bootloader that is being unlocked with ICS update) signature won't allow you to.
 

RnBass

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I am very interested in this!
I travel a lot and need gsm access in Europe and Asia.
I am tired of carrying two phones and trying to keep them synced.

With all of the smart people here we can't figure this out?
I remember enabling the fourth band on my Moto GSM E6 rokr, which was also turned off by the carrier.
 
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djamloops

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feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

But from what I understand, the phone is capable of utilizing gsm as well as cdma out of the box. Otherwise when you went to other countries you would not be able to use the phone. But verizon has agreements with various providers around the world to provide gsm service. And I seem to recall seeing on my device info page, while on my my verizon online access for my bionic, a number listed as the sim puk unlock code. Which may or may:mad: not unlock the phone for other sim cards, but I distinctly recall seeing it there. So check your device info page on my verizon. I just thought I'd share because some of the answers get overlooked because people simply don't try the proper channels. Myself included. For instance, who knew that the reset procedure for the razr is explained on the 2nd page of the user manual? I had already google'd it before reading it in both the printed manual and the built in help file.