[Q] Can i use 3G dongle on my p6800?

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Hi guys, i wanna buy an used p6800 but for some reason it dosnt support any kind of simkards and i need to use 3G internet on that, is there any solution like using an external 3G dongle for using internet on that? ;)
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Hi guys, i wanna buy an used p6800 but for some reason it dosnt support any kind of simkards and i need to use 3G internet on that, is there any solution like using an external 3G dongle for using internet on that? ;)
thanks... :eek:
Unless someone develops a specific kernel for you, I'd say : NOPE that's not possible !

I don't understand why you can't use the internal Sim card slot unless this device is defective ???

Anyway, what you could do is to buy a self powered 3G device that transforms 3G connection to Wifi... ^^

Might be a little bit more expensive than a 3G dongle depending of the speed rate supported/you wish, but that's the best I can propose you...

You can find them on eBay, Amazon, or any other retailers.
 
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If you have root, you can try PPP Widget. Just add it to your homescreen and give root access.

I personally haven't tried it because have no USB dongle.

Website and FAQ here : http://www.draisberghof.de/android/pppwidget.html

Download here : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.draisberghof.pppwidget

Although their website says Android 3.1 and up, during my kernel development I have seen gitHub source changes for PPP Widget support. The source could be for increasing USB power (edit : supply current mA) for the dongles to work from tab (properly) without an external supply. Can't remember.

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If you have root, you can try PPP Widget. Just add it to your homescreen and give root access.

I personally haven't tried it because have no USB dongle.

Website and FAQ here : http://www.draisberghof.de/android/pppwidget.html

Download here : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.draisberghof.pppwidget

Although their website says Android 3.1 and up, during my kernel development I have seen gitHub source changes for PPP Widget support. The source could be for increasing USB power (edit : supply current mA) for the dongles to work from tab (properly) without an external supply. Can't remember.

Cheers,

UITA :)

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Hmm... AFAIK, don't think installing PPP is enough to get 3G USB dongles working with Android if the kernel don't provide 3G USB dongles drivers... ^^ :confused:

That was possible with the ASUS TF101 as a dev provided a 3G drivers pack for HC but can't remember if this pack is still compatible with ICS (compiled for NVidia Tegra 2 SOC)...

And why Samsung would do this with a device supposed to be 3G ready ??? :rolleyes:

Then, do you have experience in developing such drivers pack with no USB dongles to test on ??? :D
 
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Hmm... AFAIK, don't think installing PPP is enough to get 3G USB dongles working with Android if the kernel don't provide 3G USB dongles drivers... ^^ :confused:

That was possible with the ASUS TF101 as a dev provided a 3G drivers pack for HC but can't remember if this pack is still compatible with ICS (compiled for NVidia Tegra 2 SOC)...

And why Samsung would do this with a device supposed to be 3G ready ??? :rolleyes:

Then, do you have experience in developing such drivers pack with no USB dongles to test on ??? :D
At least let OP try, and then report back.......

I did make mention of kernel source changes, just couldn't remember exactly what. Seems like a waste of time for a 3G device, but OP sure to have a reason. :)

Sorry, right now I don't have the time to look into the matter, or even attempt without device or dongle ;)

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At least let OP try, and then report back.......

I did make mention of kernel source changes, just couldn't remember exactly what. Seems like a waste of time for a 3G device, but OP sure to have a reason. :)

Sorry, right now I don't have the time to look into the matter, or even attempt without device or dongle ;)

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Of course, let OP buy a 3G USB dongle he won't be able to use it as he won't find any driver and the such, making this USB dongle simply useless... :eek:

I guess if he buys a used P6800 with a failed internal 3G part it's because he doesn't have much money to waste.

I already know the literature about 3G USB dongle uses and no need to talk about the OTG capability of the P6800 and the "juice" this device is capable to deliver enough power for the USB dongle...

He will need an unlocked 3G USB dongle with a driver he will have to find and compiled by himself, a precompiled "option" module, a precompiled usb_modeswitch specifically for the Exynos with the big APN database (usb_modeswitch.conf or usb-modeswitch-versions.xml) unless he knows exactly what APN to enter, finally and probably a modified kernel AND a very good tutorial to teach him how to set all this up, including the AT commands and such !!!

And we don't even know if he needs CDMA or HSDPA version depending on the provider and the Sim Card he has or will have, nor in which countries he is living in... ^^


On the other hand I suggested a universal independent self powered 3G WiFi Hotspot Router he could use "out of the box" with any equipments such as smartphones, tablets, PC, for Android or Apple iOS, etc... for his past, present, or future uses... :D

For the literature about 3G USB dongle uses, start here (just for samples, but Google is your friend including XDA forums of course) :

http://freedune.wordpress.com/2011/06/23/success-with-usb-3g-modems-on-android/

and the well known draisberghof.de website (which also provide the PPP widget for Android), even though this is related to Linux, the principle is the same for Android as all tools have to be recomplied accordingly :

http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/


For the universal self-powered 3G WiFi Hotspot Router, there so many, starting from as low as $16 to over $200 (LTE version) depending of the quality, his needs and the money he can afford to pay for...

Just some suggestions as samples of what is existing on the market... I used Amazon.com to be simple and to offer an idea of what exists, but he may have to use his local retailer depending where OP is living... :

http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Broa...5&sr=8-9&keywords=3G+WiFi+Router+hotspot+cdma

http://www.amazon.com/17597-Unlocke...&keywords=Huawei+E5331+3G+WiFi+Router+hotspot

http://www.amazon.com/Unlocked-ZTE-MF60-GSM-Wireless/dp/B005IDLYK4/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_6

http://www.amazon.com/Huawei-E589-Pocket-WiFi-Router/dp/B00ALSYTK8/ref=pd_sim_pc_5

Now, he can make his own decision with the good informations... :p :D

EDIT : forgot to mention : whether OP uses a 3G USB Dongle or a 3G WiFi Hotspot Router, he won't be able to place a phone call BUT just for Internet data access, unless stated otherwise... ^^
 
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Of course, let OP buy a 3G USB dongle he won't be able to use it as he won't find any driver and the such, making this USB dongle simply useless... :eek:

I guess if he buys a used P6800 with a failed internal 3G part it's because he doesn't have much money to waste.

I already know the literature about 3G USB dongle uses and no need to talk about the OTG capability of the P6800 and the "juice" this device is capable to deliver enough power for the USB dongle...

He will need an unlocked 3G USB dongle with a driver he will have to find and compiled by himself, a precompiled "option" module, a precompiled usb_modeswitch specifically for the Exynos with the big APN database (usb_modeswitch.conf or usb-modeswitch-versions.xml) unless he knows exactly what APN to enter, finally and probably a modified kernel AND a very good tutorial to teach him how to set all this up, including the AT commands and such !!!

And we don't even know if he needs CDMA or HSDPA version depending on the provider and the Sim Card he has or will have, nor in which countries he is living in... ^^


On the other hand I suggested a universal independent self powered 3G WiFi Hotspot Router he could use "out of the box" with any equipments such as smartphones, tablets, PC, for Android or Apple iOS, etc... for his past, present, or future uses... :D

For the literature about 3G USB dongle uses, start here (just for samples, but Google is your friend including XDA forums of course) :

http://freedune.wordpress.com/2011/06/23/success-with-usb-3g-modems-on-android/

and the well known draisberghof.de website (which also provide the PPP widget for Android), even though this is related to Linux, the principle is the same for Android as all tools have to be recomplied accordingly :

http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/


For the universal self-powered 3G WiFi Hotspot Router, there so many, starting from as low as $16 to over $200 (LTE version) depending of the quality, his needs and the money he can afford to pay for...

Just some suggestions as samples of what is existing on the market... I used Amazon.com to be simple and to offer an idea of what exists, but he may have to use his local retailer depending where OP is living... :

http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Broa...5&sr=8-9&keywords=3G+WiFi+Router+hotspot+cdma

http://www.amazon.com/17597-Unlocke...&keywords=Huawei+E5331+3G+WiFi+Router+hotspot

http://www.amazon.com/Unlocked-ZTE-MF60-GSM-Wireless/dp/B005IDLYK4/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_6

http://www.amazon.com/Huawei-E589-Pocket-WiFi-Router/dp/B00ALSYTK8/ref=pd_sim_pc_5

Now, he can make his own decision with the good informations... :p :D

EDIT : forgot to mention : whether OP uses a 3G USB Dongle or a 3G WiFi Hotspot Router, he won't be able to place a phone call BUT just for Internet data access, unless stated otherwise... ^^
I see you've replied to the wrong user. ? :confused:

I did state that I have no time for the matter (or indeed further interest) :) I am unable to further assist or suggest.

I'm sure the info will be of use to the OP though.....

Edit: sorry, forgot to hit thanks anyway .cheers :thumbup:

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I see you've replied to the wrong user. ? :confused:

I did state that I have no time for the mater (or indeed further interest) :) I am unable to further assist or suggest.

I'm sure the info will be of use to the OP though.....

Edit: sorry, forgot to hit thanks anyway .cheers :thumbup:

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NOPE, the answer was intended to both of you including to OP... :D

You suggested him to install PPP to be able to use 3G feature (with internal 3G or external 3G USB dongle ???)

I just confirmed YOU it wasn't that simple as I think he misunderstood your first previous answer... ;)
 

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NOPE, the answer was intended to both of you including to OP... :D

You suggested him to install PPP to be able to use 3G feature (with internal 3G or external 3G USB dongle ???)

I just confirmed YOU it wasn't that simple as I think he misunderstood your first previous answer... ;)
Well you wasted you time with me, sorry. Please read replies more carefully. I KNOW it's not as simple (or probably) as it is, but sometimes you never know with newer firmware what is supported and what is not.... Like external HDD support, just enable in kernel config and compile.

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Well you wasted you time with me, sorry. Please read replies more carefully. I KNOW it's not as simple (or probably) as it is, but sometimes you never know with newer firmware what is supported and what is not.... Like external HDD support, just enable in kernel config and compile.

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Well I red carefully your replies and don't take this as a personal attack against you but which newer firmware are you talking about ??? ^^

We already know them all, and if you already watched at the kernels source code from stock Linux or the ones provided by Samsung (or any other manufacturers), unless you find a HID modem driver with a USB dongle that use it, this is hopeless as there are NONE !!!

All 3G USB dongle drivers (with source code) you may find come mostly from Huawei and there are supplied from outside the official kernels...

Does Google provides any 3G USB drivers with their Nexus line up devices ??? I don't know ! But whatever that won't help OP as no one can check and as you said previously yourself, you have no time to check at this and you can't do any development on this "project".

So you can enable whatever you want in kernel config, this won't work if you don't include manually the required drivers and tools and compile them yourself... ^^

That's the reason I first said, unless someone can create a specific kernel for him, this is NOT an option to try using a USB dongle... and installing PPP is just useless (sorry again)... ^^

The reason I suggested him to buy and use a self powered 3G WiFi Hotspot Router...

This would be more useful to him or to anyone that use a P6810 device or a failed P6800... :D

I don't think the links I supplied for 3G USB dongles development would be of any use to OP (unless he is a developer... ^^), so I gave them just for YOUR information or to anyone that would need them considering OTG and power supply is "fixed" and hypothetically considering this option is a better one than the self powered 3G Wifi Hotspot Router... :cool:


Sorry again if you misunderstood the aim of my replies and hopefully you didn't take it bad... ;)
 

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guys! i really apriciate your help, you really helped me. thank you all, and be friends.
i decides to buy a wifi 3g router. its more usefull and troubleless!
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guys! i really apriciate your help, you really helped me. thank you all, and be friends.
i decides to buy a wifi 3g router. its more usefull and troubleless!
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Have you already decided about a model and where to buy it ???

Just needed to know as I should get 25% out of any purchase for such wifi 3G routers...

No need to say, I'm just joking. :D

But when you'll buy one, just watch out at the frequencies it offers depending on your operator (ask him if unsure), but better stay on a unlocked version if your operator suddenly propose you one, so you can change freely at any time...

Another thing you have to care about is the battery life time, depending how long you may use your next GT 7.7 away from any public Wifi source/hotspot and your load... ^^

Finally, I just realized your have a i9300 smartphone that you could just use the same as wifi 3G routers, as an alternative and as a second option. But consider that both batteries will be pumped out at the same time and you'll have to carry them both at the same time. ^^

Another tip : Personally, I have 2 Sim Cards : one for my N7000 (with a monthly Phone plan) and the other one for my P6800 (prepaid and rechargeable) as I don't use it very often on 3G network so I don't have to pay anything when I don't use 3G network at all.

Offers and time availability of rechargeable prepaid card vary from countries to countries and the operator... each prepaid charge is available for 1 year even though I don't use it by my side, then I have to pay at least a call or a paid SMS to keep the same phone number and the same Sim card... ;)

Have fun with your new toy ! :fingers-crossed:
 
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