[Q] dangers with rooting ouya

[soulman79]

Hey,

So to a total newcomer to the whole rooting thing, i was wondering exactly what the dangers with rooting is? What does it open up to malware that wasnt there before?

When you jailbrake an i-device you for example hafto change the root password since its the same for all jailbroken devices after jailbrake.

Can someone break it down easy?

Many thanks!

 

[Ultimate Chicken]

Hey,

So to a total newcomer to the whole rooting thing, i was wondering exactly what the dangers with rooting is? What does it open up to malware that wasnt there before?

Well there's a danger you can accidentally delete something you shouldn't have. You do have access to the file system after all.

Malware threats are overblown on platforms outside of Windows. Android and iOS malware still needs you to purposely install an apk/ipa. If not, they're usually sent through SMS/MMS, which the Ouya is incapable of. <_<'

Pretty much the only ways you can get malware is if you sideload it or if it somehow sneaks into the stores.

There's one specific exploit... but that doesn't affect the Ouya because:
1. It's not Samsung.
2. It doesn't have GSM/3G/HSDPA.

When you jailbrake an i-device you for example hafto change the root password since its the same for all jailbroken devices after jailbrake.

No such restriction exists on Android. My Ouya account is still usable after rooting (and it coexists with my Google account).

 

[soulman79]

thank you for taking the time to explain it!

Will root after morning coffe then =) If i do a system reset ( in the ouya menu´s ) will the root disappear? Or do i manually have to uninstall it if i want to make it factory original again?

 

[Ultimate Chicken]

thank you for taking the time to explain it!

Will root after morning coffe then =) If i do a system reset ( in the ouya menu´s ) will the root disappear? Or do i manually have to uninstall it if i want to make it factory original again?

Root disappears if you factory reset, or there's a system update. So be prepared to reroot if there's an update. Keep the one click app handy! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507

You should take a look at this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359390

I haven't had the opportunity to test the superuser preserve function yet (I updated before rooting), so just in case be prepared to reapply your root.

Ouya isn't Sony, I don't think they'll be blocking root access anytime soon.

 

[soulman79]

Root disappears if you factory reset, or there's a system update. So be prepared to reroot if there's an update. Keep the one click app handy! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507

You should take a look at this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359390

I haven't had the opportunity to test the superuser preserve function yet (I updated before rooting), so just in case be prepared to reapply your root.

Ouya isn't Sony, I don't think they'll be blocking root access anytime soon.

Awsome! got it rooted and can FINALLY log in to youtube, the google tv youtube app is perfect!

Thanks for all your answers, really appreciate it!

 

[soulman79]

so i did a factory reset just cause i got alot installed and wanted a fresh setup, but after the reset google store and some other app from google where still there, aren't they suppost to be wiped off with a factory reset? how do i get rid of them?

 

[Ultimate Chicken]

so i did a factory reset just cause i got alot installed and wanted a fresh setup, but after the reset google store and some other app from google where still there, aren't they suppost to be wiped off with a factory reset? how do i get rid of them?

Ah yes, the Play Store hack is what's known as a dirty hack. It leaves crumbs that persist through a factory reset. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44166123&postcount=158

PS: you'll need root access to delete those. After you get rid of the play store stuff you can factory reset again and it shouldn't be back.

 

[soulman79]

i ran the root apk and it says rooted, tried to delete the files with es file explorer but it wont delete the files... i even stoppped the process in the settings menu... is there another way i gotta go about?

 

[Ultimate Chicken]

i ran the root apk and it says rooted, tried to delete the files with es file explorer but it wont delete the files... i even stoppped the process in the settings menu... is there another way i gotta go about?

E's file explorer should be able to do it, but I think you need to mount system/ as R/W because it doesn't do so automatically. http://androidcowboy.com/2013/06/how-to-uninstall-system-apps-with-es-file-explorer/

If the above doesn't work, you're missing the superuser app.

These days I just connect things to my computer via microusb and use adb shell to deal with the file system; I still need busybox for that.

 

[soulman79]

puh, got it done.. missed the part that you gotta show root explorer on the left menu.. Holy sh*t im out of my league here =)

If i install the framework only will that leave bits and peaces to, or is it only playstore that does this? i saw that the framework had an uninstall / cleanup function in the app so im guessing that it takes care of itself?

If i disable root acces after installing the framwork will the framework still function or do it need to be rooted all the time?

Big thank you for the fast reply´s!

 

[Ultimate Chicken]

puh, got it done.. missed the part that you gotta show root explorer on the left menu.. Holy sh*t im out of my league here =)

If i install the framework only will that leave bits and peaces to, or is it only playstore that does this? i saw that the framework had an uninstall / cleanup function in the app so im guessing that it takes care of itself?

If i disable root acces after installing the framwork will the framework still function or do it need to be rooted all the time?

Big thank you for the fast reply´s!

The framework needs root access.

The playstore mod is the only one that leaves bits and pieces AFAIK... next time before you factory reset, run the cleanup tools and uninstall the mod first. (Sorry I didn't warn you before. I forgot. >.<)

 

[soulman79]

ahh, will do =)

Finnaly got it setup up right! Thx for all the support man!