For what I read, direct synch with Outlook is not possible with Lumia 920, I would have to go through the cloud - which I refuse. Is there a go-around available? Please let me know such programs and explain how they work. Thanks for your most appreciated support.
[Q] Direct synch with Outlook
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Sorry, I didn't understand what you meant. Can you please ask a proper question? Thanks.
No, you cannot direct sync with Outlook. You will have to use your network connection to sync Mail/Calendar/Contacts. This will all be done through your Microsoft account (formerly Live account) on-line and over the network.
Didn't I say in my original post that I don't want to go through the cloud? I'm looking for an alternate (offline) possibilty - if there is one, please let me know how it's called and how it works.
This is not an easy thing to accomplish. Microsoft is pushing strongly to have you store everything in the cloud. The best solution -- if you're up for it -- is for you to create your own private cloud. You can do this with a "hosted exchange" service; it is still online, but instead of a public service like live.com or google, it's your private calendar/contacts/e-mail.
If you don't want to do that, try this answer from the Nokia forums.
Hi wobblybob,
Welcome to the forum and thanks for posting!
When you are told you can sync a Windows Phone with Outlook that would be correct. What you are really asking is 'can I connect my Lumia to the PC with the USB cable and sync with Outlook offline'. The answer to that would be no.
How you sync with Outlook can be answered in a short and long version. The long and extensive version can be found here. The short version is:
For Outlook 2003 and 2007 install the Outlook Hotmail connector and setup an account for your LiveID, for Outlook 2010 just setup the account and it will prompt you to install the connector. A step by step guide can be found here.
Hope this helps, let us know how you get on!
Kosh
Thanks for all those links. After reading through their lenthy, very interesting and even emotional contents, my conclusion is that there is no way to synching Outlook via USB or even Bluetooth. Akruto Sync (http://www.akruto.com/get-akruto-sync/) which had been mentioned can't synch via USB, too. Are there any other offline synching methods out there? Please let me know.
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Sorry, I kinda thought my response was pretty clear. As of now, no, there is no way to do this. I know, I asked the product group.
Never understood why people still want to do such an antiquaited thing. Cables?!
Youre email comes via SMTP over the net anyway, so security cannot be it. Can it?
And almost all phones will have a data plan.
Intruiged (or not) to know the reason.
Youre email comes via SMTP over the net anyway, so security cannot be it. Can it?
And almost all phones will have a data plan.
Intruiged (or not) to know the reason.
Well, I would think it is security and privacy . . . same reason I've had to roll my own cloud solution.
Yes, SMTP is fundamentally insecure, but the primary way information in e-mail leaks is not through interception or snooping into SMTP packets, but rather through hacking someone's e-mail account. If I have all my e-mail stored in g-mail and someone gets my password through social engineering, or just by knowing me really well and guessing "m0nk3y" -- they've got all my info. If however I'm keeping it all offline in my local outlook and syncing it to my phone that way, the attack surface is a lot smaller.
And that's just e-mail . . . outlook also manages calendar, and people may not want their calendar items listed in a google or outlook account, but rather kept locally, again for similar reasons.
From what I understood reading between the lines, you guys are talking about different aspects.
Syncing is always done between the client and the mail provider. In that aspect it is useless to try to sync with your Outlook, which is only an application that manages your mails, calendar and contacts.
In my case, my Outlook has accounts for my work mail (through a dedicated MS Exchange server), my private (through a leased MS Exchange in the U.K.) and Google & Hotmail. The syncing is been done directly at the servers for the exchange accounts, which guarantees a perfect sync between my phone, laptops and desktops at home & office. No clouds involved here, so this is the perfect solution. Downside of having a leased MS Exchange server: the price tag!
Google, Yahoo and Hotmail accounts all go through the Cloud.
If you really want to have a grip on your data, I can only suggest to buy a NAS (i.e. Synology with Mail Server add-on), rent your own domain name, and set up your own mail server. A bit tricky, but worthwhile in the long running
reg's
Jo
Syncing is always done between the client and the mail provider. In that aspect it is useless to try to sync with your Outlook, which is only an application that manages your mails, calendar and contacts.
In my case, my Outlook has accounts for my work mail (through a dedicated MS Exchange server), my private (through a leased MS Exchange in the U.K.) and Google & Hotmail. The syncing is been done directly at the servers for the exchange accounts, which guarantees a perfect sync between my phone, laptops and desktops at home & office. No clouds involved here, so this is the perfect solution. Downside of having a leased MS Exchange server: the price tag!
Google, Yahoo and Hotmail accounts all go through the Cloud.
If you really want to have a grip on your data, I can only suggest to buy a NAS (i.e. Synology with Mail Server add-on), rent your own domain name, and set up your own mail server. A bit tricky, but worthwhile in the long running
reg's
Jo
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I'm bringing this topic on top again by asking if there has been found a solution in the meantime. What I want to do: Synchronize Outlook and files via a USB cable (or via Bluethooth), therefore NOT going through the cloud. How about if an xda-developper would create an appropriate software (something like Mobile Device Center 6.1 that worked perfectly under Windows Mobile 6.5)?
I'm bringing this topic on top again by asking if there has been found a solution in the meantime. What I want to do: Synchronize Outlook and files via a USB cable (or via Bluethooth), therefore NOT going through the cloud. How about if an xda-developper would create an appropriate software (something like Mobile Device Center 6.1 that worked perfectly under Windows Mobile 6.5)?
Nope. Not possible with email. The phone is a first class device now, as that's where the market took the functionality. People don't want to have to sync. Sync bad.
For files, there is no file explorer on Windows Phone. You can copy media to/from the device via USB, but not "files".
Only the contacts can be imported directly to the phone via Bluetoth without any sync with outlook or cloud. For the rest is not possible. For contacts I did this: I saved the phonebook from my old phone, copied to Nokia 6303c and after that I copied it to NL920 via Bluetooth.
All my 1051 contacts was in the phone without problems!
All my 1051 contacts was in the phone without problems!
Some of you are plain wrong.
check out HTC's website. The HTC 8X can usb-sync with outlook through HTC sync software.
The Lumias with 7.5 and older can, too, with Nokia Suite.
but the Nokia win phone 8s can't (yet)
check out HTC's website. The HTC 8X can usb-sync with outlook through HTC sync software.
The Lumias with 7.5 and older can, too, with Nokia Suite.
but the Nokia win phone 8s can't (yet)
thaks for this answer.
Contact sync in the cloud seems enough tricky, as you loose your contacts pictures (I read). personally I just tried to put my contacts on my microsoft account unsuccessfully, having the error "too many contacts" I tried to sync half of them (about 450) and I never succeeded. tricky is tricky.
Till this kind of stuff is not resolved, I'll never get a Windows 8 phone.
With Android, it is also tricky as Google creates contacts on every email you send, and even if you disable this, groups are tricky in google accounts. for example I exported my Outlook contacts to my Gmail account. I lost the contact pictures and for every contact included in more than one group (for ex : friend music medical ) Google creates a new group called "friend,music,medical" , so if I search in friend group, I won't find that guy who is musician friend and doctor. Google is smart, no?
the good solution for me, as I have an Android phone, was to use MyPhoneExplorer that syncs perfectly (I mean all elements) Outlook and phone contacts. this can be done by cable or by WiFi been on the same network with a password.
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A program called Akruto sync is the closest solution to this problem. It does not work over USB, but it will work over your local wi-fi connection. Assuming you use WPA2/AES with a strong password, there is little chance of your data being intercepted while you are synchronizing. It basically simulates Exchange ActiveSync on your PC, allowing you to use any mobile device that supports an Exchange account to synchronize with your local desktop installation of Microsoft Outlook. I've been using it for a couple of months now and it works flawlessly. They plan to implement synchronizing of notes in a future release. It is a 100% cloudless sync. As for privacy of cloud-based e-mail, there's always encryption.
The average user doesn't understand the true risks of using the public cloud. Those of us who do take the necessary precautions to protect ourselves. The unfortunate fact is that the other mobile devices on the market have similar native or third party cloudless synchronization options available, and better overall integration with Microsoft Exchange/Outlook. As an example, Windows Phone 8 does not utilitze the categories from Microsoft Outlook, though it synchronizes them in the objects through EAS. As a result, there are a myriad of users who choose a non-Microsoft device simply because it works better with Microsoft products. . Ironic and saddening that Microsoft doesn't seem to recognize this. It's likely the primary reason why all post-WM6.5 devices have trailed behind the competition. It is hurting their reputation and ultimtately results in lost revenue.
The average user doesn't understand the true risks of using the public cloud. Those of us who do take the necessary precautions to protect ourselves. The unfortunate fact is that the other mobile devices on the market have similar native or third party cloudless synchronization options available, and better overall integration with Microsoft Exchange/Outlook. As an example, Windows Phone 8 does not utilitze the categories from Microsoft Outlook, though it synchronizes them in the objects through EAS. As a result, there are a myriad of users who choose a non-Microsoft device simply because it works better with Microsoft products. . Ironic and saddening that Microsoft doesn't seem to recognize this. It's likely the primary reason why all post-WM6.5 devices have trailed behind the competition. It is hurting their reputation and ultimtately results in lost revenue.
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