[Q] GPS freezes phone (w osmand,maverick)

gunjahman

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Hello wise xda guys.

Any ideas why my hd2 freezes after some time, when I use gps with osmand or maverick (or a couple of other software I tried before and unistall). It freezes completely, and I have to remove the battery. While it is working (before freezing) everything works fine.

[Another symptom (maybe irelevant) is the very slow gps fix (the first time), which deosn't really bothers me (I'm a patient person). I'm just writing it here because maybe there is a relation]

I use: Froyo 2.2.1, mod: Cleandroid 2.55, MAGLDR 1.13.

Otherwise the telephone is more or less stable

thnx
 

lukesan

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I'm having the exact same issue lately and it is not funny/safe at all.
I first had it happening in google navigation all the time and now in iGO and Waze.
Can this be from Rafpigna's undervoltaged kernel or be a hardware issue?

Unfortunately the device freezes completely and doesn't give any error.
Does a log exist somewhere?

Any help is more than appreciated!
 

gunjahman

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Yeap, still the same problem and I can't figure out why.

I've tried more than 10 different apps, but allways the same. After some time the phone freezes. I remove the battery, start the app and after a while, the same.

I tried working with battery only or with car charger only, still the same.

I removed and brought back all my apps with titanium backup, still the same.

I have a suspicion that when it stacks and after rebooting, if I leave it in peace (I mean don't do anything with the phone, just keep it without running any app), for some time (10-20 minutes), then it starts and keeps the gps app more time, than the time of the initial freezing. Maybe this is a symptom that could ring a bell to an experienced guy...

Anybody, any ideas?
 
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lukesan

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I think mine is related to heat.
Left it in my pouch and placed iGO in demo on a long roadtrip. After 15 minutes the phone was warm and the screen was frozen so I had to get the batt out again.
More than frustrating since I have a 700km trip to do on Thursday.
 

gunjahman

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Not sure about the heat

I had the same suspicion, that the heat was causing the freezing :)) funny language ah?).

So I tested it while keeping it cool (I protect it from the sun and remove the car charger), but still the same happened. After some time it froze again. (the phone was cold)

I have a suspicion that a possible reason is the rendering of the maps. I've noticed that I have the problem, mainly when driving a car, where the maps images should change more often. I kept it in my pocket and made a few hours trekking, with no problems. Though in my pocket I had the app running in the background and I only open it a few times, just to add some points on the map.
 

Esaj2

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I'm also having GPS freezing issues, but probably way worse than you guys. I just got my phone from service center, but the issue still exists. I just quote my comments from an another topic:


I've now got back my HD2 from the service center. The GPS is now working, but not in Android. When I was using WinMo 6.5 with WWE 3.14 and 2.15.50.14, the GPS worked great. Fast lock, TomTom worked well and Google Maps worked fine. Then I decided to get Android again and after I installed everything, I discovered, that I had the same exact issue like prior the repair. The GPS starts looking the signal, if it doesn't find it, nothing bad happens, but when it does find the signal, it causes the phone to freeze. Instantly after the signal is found, it causes instant freeze. Screen stays on, nothing happens. What can cause this? I haven't yet tampered with the gps.conf settings, but I don't even think that it could fix the issue. I'm really going crazy with this.

Yeah, I'm thinking also its a driver issue. My current Android build is RAFDROID 4.0.2. And since this issue seems to be exatly the same, like before the repair, the GPS probably doesn't work in the earlier versions of RAFDROID. However something has changed in my phone, because the GPS has worked with nand Android builds in the past and even with RAFDROID 3.0. Now however, it doesn't matter which build I use, the issue always exists. Could it be caused because of the GPS module? I mean, does the WinMo 6.5 QuickGPS app save the AGPS data directly to the GPS module? So could there be some kind of corruption in the GPS module? I was having some sudden reboots, while using Google Maps and TomTom in the WinMo, but I was able to fix them, by hard resetting the device.

First time I started having this issue was, when I updated from RAFDROID 3.0 to 3.1. After that, the GPS has always caused instant freezing, when using GPS in the Android. Even downgrading back to 3.0, didn't solve the issue. Now I'm having this issue with all Android builds.


It's possible that my GPS module or "chip" could be somehow broken physically, but it's no point sending the device back for repair, because they send it back and say, "there's nothig wrong with the GPS". I'm really hoping it's not a hardware issue, because if it is, there's really nothing that can be done. I have still about a year left from the warranty and changing the module myself, will void the warranty. I just cannot understand why does the GPS still work in WinMo, but not in Android? Because if the module was somehow broken, should the GPS be defective also in WinMo?

I have tried flight mode, Wifi and 3G off etc. and the GPS DOES WORK. So the chip is not dead.
 

lukesan

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Just did some more testing on mine to try to find the issue.
I have always had a freez when I used google navigation with the sat image from the start in Android. But last week it happened in iGO and Waze which scared me a bit.

As a matter of test I installed WinMo again last night. Fantastic OS btw! and installed iGO.
Everything was up and running at 2am and I decided to let it do a demotrip of about a 1000km. The demo also sets the GPS receiver active.
I placed the HD2 it next to the fan of my laptop which is always on to generate some extra heat.
This morning at 10am the demo was still running perfectly.


Just reinstalled Android on it again. After 3km's in iGO 'gps signal lost' . I cannot get it back in any way. The GPS symbol is stuck in the bar above even if you disable GPS in the settings. So reboot is the only way.
This is getting very frustrating for me since my phone needs to work as GPS and may not fail.

Also a funny one is that it doesn't seem to matter on mine if the gps.conf file is on there or not ;-) lock time when the hd2 works is approx 1min
 
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Esaj2

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Just reinstalled Android on it again. After 3km's in iGO 'gps signal lost' . I cannot get it back in any way. The GPS symbol is stuck in the bar above even if you disable GPS in the settings. So reboot is the only way.
This is getting very frustrating for me since my phone needs to work as GPS and may not fail.
I'm having this same exact issue! However I just discovered that the local service center did not change the GPS module or antenna. So this might be the reason why my GPS doesn't work. The service center was fooled that the GPS works, because they didn't test the GPS thoroughly. YOU HAVE TO ENABLE FLIGHT MODE OR TAKE THE SIM CARD AWAY TO TEST THE GPS!. If you don't do this, you are being fooled believing, that your GPS is working, but it's not.

You guys should test your GPS, by going back to WinMo 6.5 and leave your sim card away from the phone. If your GPS can find the signal even without the sim card, congrats, your GPS is working. If you want to be double sure, enable flight mode and try again. If your GPS cannot find signal, your GPS module and/or antenna is broken and needs to be replaced.
 
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lukesan

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Well my module is working.
Easy way to test it and no need to take out your sim or so.
Just use the cab file attached to this post. If you will start it the first time it will scan the ports so you can end up with a small error in regards to BT but it not a real error.
The tool will continue to com port 4 where the gps mod is active on.
Go stand outside and voila, mine starts to show bars like it should be.

I'm taking a different approach now.
Ckeared everything and also took a fully fresh formated sd-card .... (as I type now not working)
 

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Esaj2

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Well my module is working.
Easy way to test it and no need to take out your sim or so.
Just use the cab file attached to this post. If you will start it the first time it will scan the ports so you can end up with a small error in regards to BT but it not a real error.
The tool will continue to com port 4 where the gps mod is active on.
Go stand outside and voila, mine starts to show bars like it should be.

I'm taking a different approach now.
Ckeared everything and also took a fully fresh formated sd-card .... (as I type now not working)
Thanks! You just saved my time a lot! I downloaded and installed that app and I was able to get a succesfull GPS connection and now I can even get GPS lock, when flight mode enabled or sim card removed. This was impossible before installing this app.

However it seems that we are both suffering from the same issue. GPS does not work for me in Android. It has worked in the past, but nowadays, it doesn't matter, which Android build I use, it either freezes the phone and only way to fix this, is by removing the battery or it doesn't find the signal at all. Sometimes the GPS stays on, even if I turn it off. The blinking GPS icon goes away only by restarting the device.
 

colosos

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If you are using gps navigation software on sd card, try format micro sd card with FAT32 and DEFAULT ALLOCATION SIZE option, do not choose allocation size such as 32,64 or any other except DEFAULT.

Try it and GL.
 

Break333

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If you are using gps navigation software on sd card, try format micro sd card with FAT32 and DEFAULT ALLOCATION SIZE option, do not choose allocation size such as 32,64 or any other except DEFAULT.

Try it and GL.
Did anyone try this method? Looking at other threads I see people saying that only a warranty repair will fix the issue.
 

dpoohov

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freezes

Hi. I had the same problem, i try everything formating sd, different builds and kernels. I disable "use wireless networks" and GPS work with no freeze.

Do you have a freezes on games?
 

slimsmedley

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Thought I'd throw in that I'm having the same problem running hyperdroid rom on a telstra hd2. GPS finds a lock, works for about 2 mins then freezes requiring battery to be taken out to restart. I'm leaning away from a hardware issue as copilot worked perfectly on the same phone when I was running windows 6.5...
 

nicola ricci

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Hi all,

I'm facing the same issue reported in post #12. I'm actually using latest Rafdroid HD (Froyo Sense) build on SD. Do you think I can try the fix in post 18, also if it is for Gingerbread builds? Please advise.

Thank you.