[Q] How to block B&N 1.41 update?

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yaggermr

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Well, if they plugged that hole, then mine is going back. Sorry, it's bad enough that the bootloader is locked, and I give all the credit in the world to the developers working on cracking this, but it's bullshit. I've been holding off returning it because it at least does what I want it to do now.

If for some reason, I screw something up and need to do a restore, I'm not going to be **** out of luck with a nook tablet that I can't put my most used apps onto.

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And don't get me wrong, as a person who works in Finance, I TOTALLY understand this move on B&N's part. It's just that now the device no longer fits my needs.

most likely it will restore to 1.4. The true factory restore using both volume buttons and 8 resets. Has anyone tried a full reset after the update to determine if it fall back to 1.4 or 1.4.1. This is the important question.
 

jimmysuggs

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If for some reason, I screw something up and need to do a restore, I'm not going to be **** out of luck with a nook tablet that I can't put my most used apps onto.


Just turn off your wifi when you restore.

You'll wind up with whatever firmware the device originally came with. Reroot, block OTAs and you're good to go.
 

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most likely it will restore to 1.4. The true factory restore using both volume buttons and 8 resets. Has anyone tried a full reset after the update to determine if it fall back to 1.4 or 1.4.1. This is the important question.

right, but I'm not going to worry about doing that, then hoping I can block the update. it's bullshit. they've acknowledged that less than 3% of sales are going to the modding community. but with the tablet, they were hoping to gain some momentum on app sales as well. if we're sideloading, they're losing revenue.
so, I get the reasoning, but it's just the last straw for me. i had higher hopes for the device.

at this point, I was on the edge of keeping the device. the only reason I have is because of the work that the dev's are doing.
 

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Really lame. I only sideloaded to install a video player which the native device doesnt have.

I'm fine with just the BN apps, internet and reader but if the video player I downloaded stops working I have no use for this device and will return it.
 

yaggermr

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right, but I'm not going to worry about doing that, then hoping I can block the update. it's bullshit. they've acknowledged that less than 3% of sales are going to the modding community. but with the tablet, they were hoping to gain some momentum on app sales as well. if we're sideloading, they're losing revenue.
so, I get the reasoning, but it's just the last straw for me. i had higher hopes for the device.

at this point, I was on the edge of keeping the device. the only reason I have is because of the work that the dev's are doing.

I agree I m not happy about this either. I do not understand the bussiness end because it seems like only a certain percentage care about doing extras like using the market rooting and without this option they will go elsewhere. Seems unwise. Im sure there will be several work arounds but the constent hassle may be enough to go to lenovo or asus.
 

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Please, could you share the name of the aplicattions we must block in "app quarantine" to avoid the updates?

Thanks¡¡
Sorry I don't have access to the NT till tonight, if you can list all the running services in the application management I can let you know which services to block.

But the main one is named something like com.bn.cloud, not sure of the exact name.
 

AugustusBot

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Adam, if we do that we lose everything, correct?

At that point, how do i get back to a point where i have ES file explorer installed, have whichever app was linked earlier installed so that i can disable OTA updates, all without having the update just download itself again?
 

jimmysuggs

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It looks like B&N is more concerned with selling content than devices.

This is a shame because the consumers lose out.

Choice is always a good thing.
 
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rvr350

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I woke up this morning, breathing the same air as i have last night, and fired up my nt, and peruse my usual websites. I stumbled across this thread, and i hope the ota hasn't reached me yet!

My config: Rooted, debloated (no any bn.cloud, only bn stuff i have is reader and library), and i changed the ota db value from active to inactive, auto to manual.

I will now try to quarantine anything that resembles ota, and download the magicsd option, and move any user data back on my sd card.

Man, it feels like noah's ark...
 

JoeM01

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It looks like B&N is more concerned with selling content than devices.

This is a shame because the consumers lose out.

Choice is always a good thing.

precisely. I remember seeing that Amazon was making somewhere in the range of a few bucks (or losing a few bucks) for every Kindle Fire they sold. the only way to support a business model like that is through content sales. so while I get it, I don't like it. I'm actually buying books from B&N, just not apps. Sorry, your app store sucks, and is actually overpriced. why would I pay for Angry Birds when it's free on every other Android Device??
 

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Sorry I don't have access to the NT till tonight, if you can list all the running services in the application management I can let you know which services to block.

But the main one is named something like com.bn.cloud, not sure of the exact name.

The main ones of BN are:

  • com.bn.nook.widgets
  • Library
  • NookViewer
  • NOOK Friends
  • Reader
  • Shop
  • Social

There are a lot, but I think the most important ones are in the list.

Thanks for your reply¡¡¡
 
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jimmysuggs

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I woke up this morning, breathing the same air as i have last night, and fired up my nt, and peruse my usual websites. I stumbled across this thread, and i hope the ota hasn't reached me yet!

Unless I read this post wrong, this actually sounds like confirmation that stopping bn.cloud and changing the db value actually does disable ota updates.

Unless there's some kinda delayed reaction with the update, which I guess is possible.

rvr350, if you could keep us posted on this, that would be awesome.
 

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    Required Apps:
    - Root Explorer (in market)
    - SQLite Editor (in market)

    Process:
    1. Open Root Explorer
    2. Open devicemanager.db from (/data/data/com.bn.devicemanager/databases/devicemanager.db)
    3. Select "registry" - this should open up a spreadsheet looking file
    4. Find row: com.bn.device.fota.mode
    5. Drag over to the column labeled "value"
    6. Press and hold "auto" until the "Actions" window pops up
    7. Select "Edit Field"
    8. Replace auto with manual
    9. Select "Save"

    not my post just info from forums how to block otas the easy way.
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    Hi Friends. Like all of you I am upset by 1.41 update. Thankfully so far it hasn’t gotten to me and I have my wireless off that said I am wondering if someone in the know can give us some fast blocks that will work until this mess gets straightened out. Can we get a step by step detail of what works such as:

    Un-rooted to block 1.41 update:
    1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402540

    Rooted to block 1.41 update:
    1. Indirect's root and debloater installs FOTAKill with gapps

    If you already have been hit by 1.41 do:
    1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402190 and (see above)

    Talk about spoon fed.

    Don't be a douche, if you're not posting to help then don't post at all.
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    I'm half tempted to take back my NT and just get a refurbished NC now for $130.

    Nah don't do that. This is XDA-Developers not XDA-Giveupwhenthemanufactueresdosomethingthatupsetsus.

    Yeah, it takes a little time to do the work but if we didn't like it or if it was easy we wouldn't be here spending the time doing it.
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    Thwarted again! I went back to 1.4.0 using the magic SD card method and tried installing the Hidden Setting App over in development, then went back to 1.4.1 to see if that app would provide a workaround for the problem. The funny thing is the app does work and even let's you check the box to enable 3rd-party installs. But B&N's block overrides it still. Trying to install an app results in the same old message...

    BTW, when I used the magic SD card to go back to 1.4.0 it made my "n" button not work. I went to settings via the quick settings menu and did another factory reset, which took several tries because it kept force-closing. Then it was good to go after that.
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