[Q] i9195 USB mass storage - gone?

[turbare]

As the title says, just got the phone today and I fail to find the option to connect the phone as mass storage.
Am I an idiot or are Samsung the idiots? I can't conceive of this being so

How am I supposed to copy for example music to and from the device?
PS: don't say in MTP mode

 

[btnetro]

No usb mass storage on this device. mtp mode only
We are all sorry.

 

[Whosat]

Samsung didn't add an option for Mass Storage mode

 

[Norris5]

You can try the SG USB mass storage enabler (as has already been discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2396135 ).
However, the MTP mode should be just fine for copying files to the device. Do you have any problems with it?

 

[turbare]

Well, I usually plug the phone to USB (as mass storage) when I get to work, and listen to my music from Winamp.
Hence the issue with MTP.

There are other quirks, but that's all secondary.
My main gripe was Winamp.

As far as I know the SG USB needs the device to be rooted, won't that void my warranty?
Pity we're even having this conversation though, can't see why anyone on their dev team would see this as a good ideea.

PS: I remember laughing at Windows phone devices some time ago for not having mass storage mode, now ain't this a bit ironic.

 

[btnetro]

MTP still better than needing some third software to "sync" your music.

 

[turbare]

MTP still better than needing some third software to "sync" your music.

So how do you listen to music on your computer, if you phone only knows MTP?
Name one legit advantage of MTP, that users care about?
Since I bumped into this issue I've searched the web extensively, and I was not able to find a single user happy about this crap MTP.

 

[fburgos]

I miss mass storage because I used to listen music/charge my phone on my car on the same cable

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[Whosat]

I have to agree it seems like a bad choice on Samsung's part. But I'm sure they have their reasons.

You could just copy over the music files for your WinAmp to play then

 

[turbare]

I have to agree it seems like a bad choice on Samsung's part. But I'm sure they have their reasons.

You could just copy over the music files for your WinAmp to play then

Well that beats the purpose if keeping my music on my phone

 

[fistpump]

So how do you listen to music on your computer, if you phone only knows MTP?
Name one legit advantage of MTP, that users care about?

Users care about not having corrupted data. I think it's safe to assume that many users are too ignorant/incompetent/forgetful to properly eject their phone that's mounted as a USB mass storage device. As less ignorant users know, the result can be data corruption on the SD card. Corruption is less likely to occur when you mount as a MTP device.

 

[turbare]

Well, less ignorant user's also know that the default Windows (7) policy for removable drives is to "optimise for quick removal", and it doesn't require you to safely unmount.
On the other hand, the decision on how to proceed should be the user's, not to be taken for them.

 

[fistpump]

Well, less ignorant user's also know that the default Windows (7) policy for removable drives is to "optimise for quick removal", and it doesn't require you to safely unmount.

That's beside the point. You might wanna read the Wikipedia entry on MTP.

MTP works like a transactional file system, MSC does not. Hence, file system corruption due to a failed transfer cannot occur when using MTP.

 

[turbare]

That's beside the point. You might wanna read the Wikipedia entry on MTP.

MTP works like a transactional file system, MSC does not. Hence, file system corruption due to a failed transfer cannot occur when using MTP.

Beside the point is this argument that I'm having with you.
The fact that you believe MTP is a good thing doesn't change the fact that it's not, at least for me and for all the other users complaining about it.

Now lets get back to the topic on ways to circumvent the lack of UMS

 

[arco68]

It's all Google's fault. They also don't support external sdcards anymore, or physical navigation buttons amongst other things.

 

[btnetro]

apple style crap.

 

[fistpump]

Beside the point is this argument that I'm having with you.
The fact that you believe MTP is a good thing doesn't change the fact that it's not, at least for me and for all the other users complaining about it.

It's easy to see through this. You don't have arguments left, and try to force an end to the discussion this way.

You suggested in #7 that MTP has *no* legit advantage. That is flat-out wrong. MTP much reduces the risk of file-system corruption, which seems to be a common problem on SD cards (just browse the forums). Moreover, MTP has the advantage that your PC can access it without requiring an exclusive lock on the file system. Thus, applications on the SD card can continue to run.

 

[turbare]

It's easy to see through this. You don't have arguments left, and try to force an end to the discussion this way.

You suggested in #7 that MTP has *no* legit advantage. That is flat-out wrong. MTP much reduces the risk of file-system corruption, which seems to be a common problem on SD cards (just browse the forums). Moreover, MTP has the advantage that your PC can access it without requiring an exclusive lock on the file system. Thus, applications on the SD card can continue to run.

Dear fistpump,

Those are not "advantages", they are just marketing BS.
I've never had a corrupted card or data ever since the first Galaxy S came out. To bring that as an argument is utter bs.

The lock on the file system again, is irrelevant, if you are looking to connect as mass storage you already know the implications that would bring.

If Google or Samsung worry so much about the user's data integrity, I can understand them putting MTP as the default mode, BUT leaving the option to use mass storage even if they bury it in the most hidden corner of the Settings menu.