[Q] If Upgrade To 4.4.4 Can You Revert To 4.4.2

elephant007

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If upgrading to 4.4.4 (NH7) are you then able to revert back to 4.4.2 (NC5)? Complete stock including boot and recovery. Knox 0x0

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jimzweb1

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If upgrading to 4.4.4 (NH7) are you then able to revert back to 4.4.2 (NC5)? Complete stock including boot and recovery. Knox 0x0

Thank for your help!
Yes you can. first, after you upgrade to 4.4.4, you can try to do a factory reset back to 4.4.2. If you are still at 4.4.4 after the reset, than you will have try one of the options below.

Its tricky, your device may or my not boot loop when you go back to 4.4.2. However, if you check out my post http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/help/4-4-4-download-mode-t2877528 we found two ways around the boot loop. In post #7 he did it by going into factory recovery and doing a factory reset, this will work without tripping KNOX. My way works, but it is for a device with KNOX already tripped.
 
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tommyjoesanders

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Does this really work about downgrading without knox tripped. I am pure stock I have NC5 tar. and odin already

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If I have offical tar and odin NC5 firmware. Can you downgrade without tripping knox count
 

jimzweb1

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Does this really work about downgrading without knox tripped. I am pure stock I have NC5 tar. and odin already

---------- Post added at 03:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:06 PM ----------

If I have offical tar and odin NC5 firmware. Can you downgrade without tripping knox count
Check your PM

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Does this really work about downgrading without knox tripped. I am pure stock I have NC5 tar. and odin already

---------- Post added at 03:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:06 PM ----------

If I have offical tar and odin NC5 firmware. Can you downgrade without tripping knox count
You should post your battery draining issues with 4.4.4 can always use the info !!!
 

elephant007

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Reverted back to 4.4.2

I did the OTA today to 4.4.4. After a successful upgrade, I flashed back to 4.4.2 using Odin and the stock NC5 ROM. My phone ended up in a boot loop and I did what was suggested if your phone gets into a boot loop. I booted into stock recovery and did a factory reset. I was then able to boot successfully into 4.4.2! Everything still stock. Knox still 0x0 and device status Official

Downloaded NC5 from here N900PVPUCNC5_N900PSPTCNC5_N900PVPUCNC5_HOME

Odin provided in attachment (from CF-Auto)

Thank you for everyone's suggestions

Default disclaimer: Use at your doing, only you are responsible for your own actions.
 

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tommyjoesanders

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Yes you can. first, after you upgrade to 4.4.4, you can try to do a factory reset back to 4.4.2. If you are still at 4.4.4 after the reset, than you will have try one of the options below.

Its tricky, your device may or my not boot loop when you go back to 4.4.2. However, if you check out my post http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/help/4-4-4-download-mode-t2877528 we found two ways around the boot loop. In post #7 he did it by going into factory recovery and doing a factory reset, this will work without tripping KNOX. My way works, but it is for a device with KNOX already tripped.
I did the OTA today to 4.4.4. After a successful upgrade, I flashed back to 4.4.2 using Odin and the stock NC5 ROM. My phone ended up in a boot loop and I did what was suggested if your phone gets into a boot loop. I booted into stock recovery and did a factory reset. I was then able to boot successfully into 4.4.2! Everything still stock. Knox still 0x0 and device status Official

Downloaded NC5 from here N900PVPUCNC5_N900PSPTCNC5_N900PVPUCNC5_HOME

Odin provided in attachment (from CF-Auto)

Thank you for everyone's suggestions

Default disclaimer: Use at your doing, only you are responsible for your own actions.
Worked like a charm. Thanks for info.
 

wally18324

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installing update firmware 4.4.4

Worked like a charm. Thanks for info.
Please forgive me if I am in the wrong forum. Just a couple of questions. I am currently on the rooted nc5 touch wiz rom on my sprint galaxy note 3. Here goes: Do I have to unroot to install the 4.4.4 stock firmware. Or just flash it with odin. Secondly, what about my nandroid backups on nc5. Can they be used again after rooting the 4.4.4 firmware. I have cm11 nightly ( awesome rom btw ) or do I have to go thru the whole process from scratch. Thanks in advance.
 

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Please forgive me if I am in the wrong forum. Just a couple of questions. I am currently on the rooted nc5 touch wiz rom on my sprint galaxy note 3. Here goes: Do I have to unroot to install the 4.4.4 stock firmware. Or just flash it with odin. Secondly, what about my nandroid backups on nc5. Can they be used again after rooting the 4.4.4 firmware. I have cm11 nightly ( awesome rom btw ) or do I have to go thru the whole process from scratch. Thanks in advance.
NO, you do not have to unroot your device. BACK UP YOUR DATA FIRST !!! Just boot into download mode and flash through Odin here is a link to a complete copy of 4.4.4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712205 . Now you might lose your nandroid backups. So here is what I would do. First make a copy of your backups file to the desktop of your PC. Now after you get 4.4.4 installed and rooted, install the same recovery you used before. After you make a backup of rooted stock 4.4.4 to your sd card, copy the old backups file on your PC to your new backup file. Now try and restore an old backup. Chances are its going to come back md5 mismatch error, no problem !!! YES, just use a root file manger like Root Explorer go to the old backup file that failed, and click on it. You will see all the files that make up the OS, delete the nandriod.md5 file. Now click on add a new file, and add nandroid.md5 where the old one was, check permissions rwxrwx---. Restore the backup again since the new nandroid.md5 is empty it forces the system to ignore it and it will restore your old backup. Once it boots up, and everything is good make a new backup of the old one, this will have a new md5 and you will be able to restore with no problem the next time.
 
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wally18324

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NO, you do not have to unroot your device. BACK UP YOUR DATA FIRST !!! Just boot into download mode and flash through Odin here is a link to a complete copy of 4.4.4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712205 . Now you might lose your nandroid backups. So here is what I would do. First make a copy of your backups file to the desktop of your PC. Now after you get 4.4.4 installed and rooted, install the same recovery you used before. After you make a backup of rooted stock 4.4.4 to your sd card, copy the old backups file on your PC to your new backup file. Now try and restore an old backup. Chances are its going to come back md5 mismatch error, no problem !!! YES, just use a root file manger like Root Explorer go to the old backup file that failed, and click on it. You will see all the files that make up the OS, delete the nandriod.md5 file. Now click on add a new file, and add nandroid.md5 where the old one was, check permissions rwxrwx---. Restore the backup again since the new nandroid.md5 is empty it forces the system to ignore it and it will restore your old backup. Once it boots up, and everything is good make a new backup of the old one, this will have a new md5 and you will be able to restore with no problem the next time.
Thank You very much were on the same page, my recovery is philz_touch_6.12.9-hltespr, The best recovery I've ever used.
 

jbnorton0524

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I've soft bricked 2 times this week on nh7 and just went back to nc5 cuz I had the tar right there so yes you can. Resets Knox to untripped and I actually get better data signal with nc5.
 

elephant007

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I've soft bricked 2 times this week on nh7 and just went back to nc5 cuz I had the tar right there so yes you can. Resets Knox to untripped and I actually get better data signal with nc5.
Are you saying your Knox was tripped 0x1 then you Odin flashed NC5 and now your Knox is 0x0?
 
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