[Q] Look over my gameplan please

[mikeyDzomg]

A long time ago I rooted my phone via odin and then flashed a shostock ics rom to my sgh i777, after searching around on this forum I found out not to go on the website that I learned how to originally root/flash my phone, anyway here is my phones current information

android - 4.0.3
Kernel- [email protected]

Now im planning on switching over to the Siyah 4.3.3 kernel with micswap, and the AOKP Jellybean Build 11.9.2012 rom. Now from what I've gathered I simply both the kernel zip and rom zip over onto my phone. Using cwm I flash the kernel because odin only recognizes .tars iirc and then have it boot back into cwm and then flash the rom? Obvioulsy before i go through with it, i'll make the nandroid, and then do
1. Wipe cache
2. Wipe dalvik
3. If you are already on a previous version of Siyah, "Reset ExTweaks profiles" (its under "Kernel specific options")
4. Flash the kernel
Once i flash the kernel I should be able to flash over to the JB rom correct?

 

[dandrumheller]

A long time ago I rooted my phone via odin and then flashed a shostock ics rom to my sgh i777, after searching around on this forum I found out not to go on the website that I learned how to originally root/flash my phone, anyway here is my phones current information

android - 4.0.3
Kernel- [email protected]

Now im planning on switching over to the Siyah 4.3.3 kernel with micswap, and the AOKP Jellybean Build 11.9.2012 rom. Now from what I've gathered I simply both the kernel zip and rom zip over onto my phone. Using cwm I flash the kernel because odin only recognizes .tars iirc and then have it boot back into cwm and then flash the rom? Obvioulsy before i go through with it, i'll make the nandroid, and then do
1. Wipe cache
2. Wipe dalvik
3. If you are already on a previous version of Siyah, "Reset ExTweaks profiles" (its under "Kernel specific options")
4. Flash the kernel
Once i flash the kernel I should be able to flash over to the JB rom correct?

1) Copy ROM, Kernel and JellyBean GApps to your device in a place that's easy to find (I use root of internal SD)
2) Reboot into recovery
3) Make a nandroid backup
4) wipe data/factory reset
5) wipe cache
6) wipe dalvik cache
7) reset extweaks profiles
8) install ROM zip from internal
9) install JB GApps
10) install Siyah 4.3.3 micswap if you want - but you won't get support in the AOKP thread if you do this.
11) reboot device

If you flash a kernel before a ROM, the kernel included in the ROM will overwrite the one you just flashed.

 

[mikeyDzomg]

1) Copy ROM, Kernel and JellyBean GApps to your device in a place that's easy to find (I use root of internal SD)
2) Reboot into recovery
3) Make a nandroid backup
4) wipe data/factory reset
5) wipe cache
6) wipe dalvik cache
7) reset extweaks profiles
8) install ROM zip from internal
9) install JB GApps
10) install Siyah 4.3.3 micswap if you want - but you won't get support in the AOKP thread if you do this.
11) reboot device

If you flash a kernel before a ROM, the kernel included in the ROM will overwrite the one you just flashed.

I was under the impression I need the micswap in order to use the rom I want? You mentioned I can use it if I want but I just wont get support in the thread so I tried researching the whole micswap thing, well Im still a little confused because some say you need it for the i9100 phones. Well mine is an sgh i777.. but after I originally flashed it with odin whenever I booted it, it comes up with the i9100 logo, so Im a little confused now because in the siyah thread it says I need the micswap to run the rom I want (AOKP Jellybean 11.9.2012).
I downloaded the v4.3.3 - CM10/AOKP MALI - CWM Flashable kernel with the micswap. Either way cant I just put the other 2 v4.3.3 ICS Micswap and no miccswap kernels onto my internal SD and then flash them if I have to?

edit - heres another problem I just ran into I just found a siyah v5 in this thread It has both micswap and no micswap versions, It mentions to use the micswap for anything AOKP based, since the JB rom Im using is AOKP based I would need the micswap version, but now im assuming the siyah v5 kernel is better then the v4.3.3 right? But i cant seem to find like a release thread of the v5

The Thread im referencing
I noticed you have the same att phone as i do and you're running the 4.3.3 kernel are you using the micswap version or the without micswap?

 

[dandrumheller]

I was under the impression I need the micswap in order to use the rom I want? You mentioned I can use it if I want but I just wont get support in the thread so I tried researching the whole micswap thing, well Im still a little confused because some say you need it for the i9100 phones. Well mine is an sgh i777.. but after I originally flashed it with odin whenever I booted it, it comes up with the i9100 logo, so Im a little confused now because in the siyah thread it says I need the micswap to run the rom I want (AOKP Jellybean 11.9.2012).
I downloaded the v4.3.3 - CM10/AOKP MALI - CWM Flashable kernel with the micswap. Either way cant I just put the other 2 v4.3.3 ICS Micswap and no miccswap kernels onto my internal SD and then flash them if I have to?

edit - heres another problem I just ran into I just found a siyah v5 in this thread It has both micswap and no micswap versions, It mentions to use the micswap for anything AOKP based, since the JB rom Im using is AOKP based I would need the micswap version, but now im assuming the siyah v5 kernel is better then the v4.3.3 right? But i cant seem to find like a release thread of the v5

The Thread im referencing

Reading is your friend here - spend LOTS of time doing this BEFORE flashing to know what you are getting into. But the short answer to your questions above:

There are mic-swap and non-mic-swap versions of most of the kernels for the i777. if you are using a rom based on an i777 samsung release, you need NON-mic swap. If you are using a ROM based on i9100 Samsung release, or AOKP, or CM, or AOSP, or pretty much anything else, you need mic-swap. Any ROM you install will include a kernel with the appropriate swap settings. You are best off running whatever kernel comes with the ROM you flash at least at first, and then try something else if you want additional functionality or want to see if you can improve performance. If you flash some other kernel over a ROM, the ROM dev will likely not provide any support becuase you are messing with what they release - this sometimes results in bugs/erratic behavior. It's up to you at this point to research/read/try stuff to sort out your problems.

The latest siyah ported and modded by Ktoonsez is 4.3.3. Ktoonsez adds some stuff to 'stock' siyah, so many people use that. 5.0.1 Siyah was ported by AJ, with, as far as I know, only minimal changes. it is more of a 'stock' siyah, but a newer version. You need to research the two yourself to decide which is better for you based on their features. you do this by reading at LEAST the first 10 posts and last 200 posts (yes, last 20 pages) to get an idea of the history and ongoing issues for each. You should be doing that for any ROM you are thinking of flashing too. If you're not willing to spend at least that much time to benefit yourself, it's not fair to expect anyone here to spend their time helping you.

If you have an i9100 logo at boot, it means you flashed non-stock via odin and triggered the counter. This won't hurt you at all unless you need to return the device for warranty issues, or if it annoys you. There are plenty of threads around here with the means to get rid of it - search is your friend here.

 

[mikeyDzomg]

Reading is your friend here - spend LOTS of time doing this BEFORE flashing to know what you are getting into. But the short answer to your questions above:

There are mic-swap and non-mic-swap versions of most of the kernels for the i777. if you are using a rom based on an i777 samsung release, you need NON-mic swap. If you are using a ROM based on i9100 Samsung release, or AOKP, or CM, or AOSP, or pretty much anything else, you need mic-swap. Any ROM you install will include a kernel with the appropriate swap settings. You are best off running whatever kernel comes with the ROM you flash at least at first, and then try something else if you want additional functionality or want to see if you can improve performance. If you flash some other kernel over a ROM, the ROM dev will likely not provide any support becuase you are messing with what they release - this sometimes results in bugs/erratic behavior. It's up to you at this point to research/read/try stuff to sort out your problems.

The latest siyah ported and modded by Ktoonsez is 4.3.3. Ktoonsez adds some stuff to 'stock' siyah, so many people use that. 5.0.1 Siyah was ported by AJ, with, as far as I know, only minimal changes. it is more of a 'stock' siyah, but a newer version. You need to research the two yourself to decide which is better for you based on their features. you do this by reading at LEAST the first 10 posts and last 200 posts (yes, last 20 pages) to get an idea of the history and ongoing issues for each. You should be doing that for any ROM you are thinking of flashing too. If you're not willing to spend at least that much time to benefit yourself, it's not fair to expect anyone here to spend their time helping you.

If you have an i9100 logo at boot, it means you flashed non-stock via odin and triggered the counter. This won't hurt you at all unless you need to return the device for warranty issues, or if it annoys you. There are plenty of threads around here with the means to get rid of it - search is your friend here.

Thanks for the quick response and yeah im not too worried about about the counter. I appreciate you clearing up that each rom has its own kernel for some reason I thought you need to match a kernel/rom. For now i'll just try the aokp rom and then maybe switch over to the siyah 4.3.3 after doing more research. I just went through with flashing just the rom and gapps now time to spend an hour in the bathroom figuring everything out. Anyway thanks for the help i'll definitely do more research into android. Computers were my hobby for the longest period of time untill I got into cars, trying to pick up phones now even though im pretty late to the party.

How are you liking the Ktoonsez Siyah 4.3.3?