[Q] Might this be the reason for Gingerbread OTA delay?

[ap3604]

Check this out guys

Cant believe such a "dont be evil" and "open" company like Google would act like a$$holes and hold back a Gingerbread update from the original Nexus phone while an company like Apple would make sure that all of its users are able to have the option to update on time if they want to. Once the next Nexus phone comes out next year Google will be doing the same thing to the Nexus S owners and making them wait months for updates as well

The whole reason we bought the Nexus line is because we were tired of carrier games and not getting updates months late so we bought a phone to get updates directly from Google and they are now doing the exact same thing to the Nexus One that we were trying to avoid!!!

 

[gibosn6594]

Check this out guys

Cant believe such a "dont be evil" and "open" company like Google would act like a$$holes and hold back a Gingerbread update from the original Nexus phone while an company like Apple would make sure that all of its users are able to have the option to update on time if they want to. Once the next Nexus phone comes out next year Google will be doing the same thing to the Nexus S owners and making them wait months for updates as well

The whole reason we bought the Nexus line is because we were tired of carrier games and not getting updates months late so we bought a phone to get updates directly from Google and they are now doing the exact same thing to the Nexus One that we were trying to avoid!!!

Nexus S is the only one to get it so far. We are in line to be next. Nobody else has it yet.

 

[codesplice]

And it is articles like this that make me not read anything from TechCrunch, ever. Their entire philosophy is that journalism is meant to stir people up so a million people will read it and argue about it - driving up their advertising-based revenue each time the page is clicked. Journalistic integrity or even factual reporting are factors so removed from their articles that they might as well not even be present. Comparing an OS that was released in June (or July?) with one that was debuted on a brand new device a month ago is a pretty unfair comparison.

Additionally, you're looking at a grand total of 4 different hardware sets (putting aside different-sized internal storage) running iOS versus hundreds of Android devices. That means that the latest iOS release only had to release a MAXIMUM of 4 driver sets to work on its different hardware (realistically, I doubt that the original iPhone is even running iOS4 at this point), while the Android developers and manufacturers have to individual code a driver set for each piece of hardware they want to be supported. THIS is why Android updates are staggered - it takes time to do all that coding. If Android was only available on the Nexus One and the Nexus S, you can bet your ass updates would be quicker and more uniform. That's basically what Apple has to contend with. And they still don't get it right - ask anyone with an iPhone 3G if they are satisfied with the iOS4 update.

Consider the version of Gingerbread on the NS to be a preview, or a beta - because that's what it really is. It's broken and has some serious flaws; this is why we haven't seen it for any other device yet. Once it is fixed and everything works, we'll start to get the OTA before any other devices.

 

[pfmiller]

That's partially true, but once you have Android running on a device updating the drivers for a new release is not the big deal that people seem to make it out to be. Typically, a simple recompile is all that is needed for the drivers to work on the new kernel. At least that's how it works in most Linux distro's, I don't see any reason why Android would be different.

 

[diversificationied]

That's partially true, but once you have Android running on a device updating the drivers for a new release is not the big deal that people seem to make it out to be. Typically, a simple recompile is all that is needed for the drivers to work on the new kernel. At least that's how it works in most Linux distro's, I don't see any reason why Android would be different.

I think the bigger issue is updating a device while maintaining the integrity of the user's data.

2.3 has moved to ext4 from YAFFS, so there's going to be alot of data movement during the update.

Google would be in a HUGE ****storm if their update accidently erased user's data. That requires alot of testing, it's not XDA or CM where they can put a simple "dragons ahead" disclaimer and be done with it.

 

[familiarstranger]

is there really any doubt that the N1 will be the first to receive the OTA? Or that we won't get it? The N1 will be the first phone to receive GB OTA, when Google is ready to roll it out. There is your "Pure Google Experience"

Complaining about a delay? Go resurrect an old Froyo OTA bitching thread I'm sure all of your same comments are right there, only this time you can be jealous of the NS.

 

[alism]

Check this out guys

By "MG Siegler"... and click 'back'.

 

[codesplice]

By "MG Siegler"... and click 'back'.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[pfmiller]

I think the bigger issue is updating a device while maintaining the integrity of the user's data.

2.3 has moved to ext4 from YAFFS, so there's going to be alot of data movement during the update.

That's only for new phones, they won't change the file system on updated phones. The major reason for the change was to prevent performance issues related to concurrent file system operations on multi-cored phones. This is not an issue on current installs and so they have no reason to change the existing file system which, as you said, is a tricky thing to do.

 

[nexus-six]

Check this out guys

Cant believe such a "dont be evil" and "open" company like Google would act like a$$holes and hold back a Gingerbread update from the original Nexus phone while an company like Apple would make sure that all of its users are able to have the option to update on time if they want to. Once the next Nexus phone comes out next year Google will be doing the same thing to the Nexus S owners and making them wait months for updates as well

The whole reason we bought the Nexus line is because we were tired of carrier games and not getting updates months late so we bought a phone to get updates directly from Google and they are now doing the exact same thing to the Nexus One that we were trying to avoid!!!

I don't care who wrote it and google can whine all it wants about android "openness".
I bought the nexus one to have a phone where I am not dependent on some stupid carrier or manufacturer to get updates ... and now google is pulling the same BS stunts.
Makes me seriously re-think my next phone purchase.

 

[tr.slate]

Im really not nerdraging at all. There certainly are things that google can do better, but sitting on the forums complaining about how it may be a few weeks longer isnt going to change anything.

I dont like waiting anymore than anyone else, but we're all in the same boat here. This thread does indeed reek of something that would be on techcrunch. Im just sick of whiney crybabies that get pissed when they cant yell first!11!1 on every little thing. It will be a few weeks. So what? It will be out when its out.

 

[stinkypete]

Really, is that so? Cause I'm in America and I've never had a consumer electronic device, phone or otherwise, which was supported after purchase anywhere near as well as my N1. I just sit on my butt wasting time away surfing the interwebs on the thing and every six months or so I get a free update with great new features pushed out to me. None of my previous phones got jack squat after I bought them. The best I'm accustomed to expect is a rare firmware update that fixes some obscure bug I never encountered anyway.

What about Windows 7 OS?

 

[Androyed]

Those 'Google is evil' threads are really annoying. Some people are so selfish. Do you actually know that the Nexus S isn't even released yet in most of the world? The US is not the whole world. There are other countries. The Nexus S is the 'Gingerbread flagship'. They advertise with Gingerbread for the Nexus S. How can they do that when the Nexus One is ahead of the Nexus S in most of the countries?

Also, the hardware from the Nexus S and the Nexus One is completely different. All iPhones have similar hardware. That's why all updates are released at the same time. Besides, you don't know if Apple is not holding back the updates for the iPhone 4, just so that they can release it at the same time.

Some people are really pathetic. I saw a thread title which was 'Nexus One RIP'. Come on! Stop whining about how Google is evil, killed your cat and ate it. And if you don't want your cat to be eaten, buy another phone. It's as simple as that.

Or you could sue Google, perhaps?

 

[diversificationied]

People are upset over the hypocrisy that Google is practicing, and rightfully so.

Google loves to expound over their principles, so it's okay to call them on it when they fail to meet their own words.

 

[RogerPodacter]

is there really any doubt that the N1 will be the first to receive the OTA? Or that we won't get it? The N1 will be the first phone to receive GB OTA, when Google is ready to roll it out. There is your "Pure Google Experience"

Complaining about a delay? Go resurrect an old Froyo OTA bitching thread I'm sure all of your same comments are right there, only this time you can be jealous of the NS.

i've said this repeatedly. people have such short memories. froyo update took well over a full month before it was released, and everyone was complaining then too. did everyone forget about this? why is gingerbread suddenly so different? there were delays, there are delays, and there will be delays. nothing seems strange to me yet.

 

[RogerPodacter]

Those 'Google is evil' threads are really annoying. Some people are so selfish. Do you actually know that the Nexus S isn't even released yet in most of the world? The US is not the whole world. There are other countries. The Nexus S is the 'Gingerbread flagship'. They advertise with Gingerbread for the Nexus S. How can they do that when the Nexus One is ahead of the Nexus S in most of the countries?

Also, the hardware from the Nexus S and the Nexus One is completely different. All iPhones have similar hardware. That's why all updates are released at the same time. Besides, you don't know if Apple is not holding back the updates for the iPhone 4, just so that they can release it at the same time.

Some people are really pathetic. I saw a thread title which was 'Nexus One RIP'. Come on! Stop whining about how Google is evil, killed your cat and ate it. And if you don't want your cat to be eaten, buy another phone. It's as simple as that.

Or you could sue Google, perhaps?

the problem is the nexus one and nexus s do not compete with each other IMO. first of all the nexus one is not even available for sale, so its not like it could take away from nexus s sales if it DID have gingerbread. which brings to the point, no nexus one owner is waiting/not waiting to get a nexus s because of ginerbread updates. the two things are just not related. i cant see any owners not gonig out and getting a nexus s if they didnt already want to go out and get a nexus s, regardless of what updates were out for it or the nexus one. the two just dont seem related.

 

[thephoneguyusa]

I say kick back grab a beer and wait for the ota there are plenty of roms out there to play with to keep you busy till the OTA comes out.

Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

 

[tr.slate]

I was reading earlier that it will prob only be a few days now. Ill post the story if i can find it again but sounded legit to me.

 

[Salival]

I don´t understand, if you go to @googlenexus twitter page and go to tweets around 20th December, you will see: The Gingerbread OTA for Nexus One will happen in the coming weeks. Just hang tight!
4 Jan
I know that this tweet was posted 20. December, why now I see 4. Jan?

 

[familiarstranger]

i believe this is the article tr.slate was referring to http://blogs.computerworld.com/17687/nexus_one_gingerbread