[Q] Nexus 4 MMS problem

match417

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I have a Nexus 4 (bought from Google) with the stock ROM and it's up to date running 4.2.2 on T-Mobile USA. I've tried reading up on the problems that others are having with their Nexus 4 and MMS and no one seems to be having the exact problem that I am having. I always turn my data off so I conserve battery power, it has never given me problems with other phones in terms of receiving/sending MMS messages, data would come on briefly when receiving/sending an MMS with other phones, but the Nexus 4 doesn't do that automatically. When data is on I receive them fine it seems. For a while I didn't know why I wasn't getting MMS messages. Then I installed LightFlow lite for the LED notification colors, I gave MMS messages and SMS messages different LED notification colors. Then I would get notified only by the LED notifier when an MMS was coming through, but I still wouldn't get the message, nor was there an audible notification. Sometimes I am able to turn on my data before opening the messaging app (stock one) after I notice the MMS LED notifier blinking. Other times they will come through the next day when I turn the data on, and sometimes I never get them. This is the only phone that has done this, my Android HD2, Sensation, and other phones haven't given me any problems, whether I had the stock ROM or changed it out. The problem seems to lie in how the data from the cell tower doesn't get turned on by the messaging app when the MMS is being sent/received. If I knew how to enable the messaging app to be able to do that, then I wouldn't have that problem. I have also tried using the facebook messenger/SMS app and I think goSMS, I don't remember either one helping the situation.

Please don't respond with "well turn your data on" or "this isn't a problem because you have your data off, so you don't receive MMSs". I'm used to my other phones turning the data on when an MMS is coming through. This one does not, I like being able to stretch my battery life.

Can this be alleviated by changing out my ROM? I'm wanting to swap ROMs anyway, so I've been researching which ones I would like to switch to. The other reason I want to change ROMs is I'm having problems with other stock apps that I can't uninstall and reinstall, like google maps always says my GPS is turned off when GPS and data are both on. I can use the mapquest app fine without getting the GPS error, it's something with google maps.
 

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I have a Nexus 4 (bought from Google) with the stock ROM and it's up to date running 4.2.2 on T-Mobile USA. I've tried reading up on the problems that others are having with their Nexus 4 and MMS and no one seems to be having the exact problem that I am having. I always turn my data off so I conserve battery power, it has never given me problems with other phones in terms of receiving/sending MMS messages, data would come on briefly when receiving/sending an MMS with other phones, but the Nexus 4 doesn't do that automatically. When data is on I receive them fine it seems. For a while I didn't know why I wasn't getting MMS messages. Then I installed LightFlow lite for the LED notification colors, I gave MMS messages and SMS messages different LED notification colors. Then I would get notified only by the LED notifier when an MMS was coming through, but I still wouldn't get the message, nor was there an audible notification. Sometimes I am able to turn on my data before opening the messaging app (stock one) after I notice the MMS LED notifier blinking. Other times they will come through the next day when I turn the data on, and sometimes I never get them. This is the only phone that has done this, my Android HD2, Sensation, and other phones haven't given me any problems, whether I had the stock ROM or changed it out. The problem seems to lie in how the data from the cell tower doesn't get turned on by the messaging app when the MMS is being sent/received. If I knew how to enable the messaging app to be able to do that, then I wouldn't have that problem. I have also tried using the facebook messenger/SMS app and I think goSMS, I don't remember either one helping the situation.

Please don't respond with "well turn your data on" or "this isn't a problem because you have your data off, so you don't receive MMSs". I'm used to my other phones turning the data on when an MMS is coming through. This one does not, I like being able to stretch my battery life.

Can this be alleviated by changing out my ROM? I'm wanting to swap ROMs anyway, so I've been researching which ones I would like to switch to. The other reason I want to change ROMs is I'm having problems with other stock apps that I can't uninstall and reinstall, like google maps always says my GPS is turned off when GPS and data are both on. I can use the mapquest app fine without getting the GPS error, it's something with google maps.

Ok your issue is that those other phones would automaticlly turn your data on when an MMS would come in and then turn it back off. This has to built in on the OS level which AOSP doesnt support. You are not gonna find anything to fix this.
 

match417

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Ok your issue is that those other phones would automaticlly turn your data on when an MMS would come in and then turn it back off. This has to built in on the OS level which AOSP doesnt support. You are not gonna find anything to fix this.
ok. so since it is an OS level thing.then it would depend on what the developer has done with the new ROM that I install then? Maybe I'll end up getting a ROM that would work then?
 

zelendel

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ok. so since it is an OS level thing.then it would depend on what the developer has done with the new ROM that I install then? Maybe I'll end up getting a ROM that would work then?

They would need to add it to the AOSP source code in the messaging app but do to the restrictions that AOSP has for programs changing system settings, I wouldnt bet on it. Non of the roms here work that way. I use AF firewall for to control data
 

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They would need to add it to the AOSP source code in the messaging app but do to the restrictions that AOSP has for programs changing system settings, I wouldnt bet on it. Non of the roms here work that way. I use AF firewall for to control data
All ROMs I've used automatically receive and send my MMS, there's even an option in SMS settings for auto retrieve.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
 

match417

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All ROMs I've used automatically receive and send my MMS, there's even an option in SMS settings for auto retrieve.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
My "auto retrieve" is selected, and always has been to my knowledge. My problem is the MMS not getting sent or received when I have my data turned off. The messenger app isn't turning on the data to allow it to be sent/received.

I do like the idea that zelendel stated about using the firewall. I hadn't thought about that.
 

zelendel

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My "auto retrieve" is selected, and always has been to my knowledge. My problem is the MMS not getting sent or received when I have my data turned off. The messenger app isn't turning on the data to allow it to be sent/received.

I do like the idea that zelendel stated about using the firewall. I hadn't thought about that.
When I was on a super limited data plan I had to find a work around for just this issue on AOSP roms

Wayne Tech Nexus
 

match417

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When I was on a super limited data plan I had to find a work around for just this issue on AOSP roms

Wayne Tech Nexus
Yeah, my plan is 200 MBs a month. I selected that, I don't need more. I only check email, facebook, forums, and do google searches from the phone, and the occasional directions. It never goes over 50 MB, unless a few apps start hogging data (geico brostache app for example). It's either ads or geico is collecting data about my location/driving. I have to kill it with my app killer after I use it because it will go over my 200MB limit after a few days.
 

match417

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Yeah I use AFwall donate. You can set it up to allow apps to only use Wifi or cell data, none or both.

Wayne Tech Nexus
well, thanks. I consider my problem solved then. Your advise seems solid, and it is a problem that there doesn't seem to be a simple fix for. I'll look into AFwall. I was looking for a firewall like that a while back, downloaded some awful ones, then gave up on the search.
 

drmclove69

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That has nothing to do with what we are talking about

Wayne Tech Nexus
As I stated.....mine SENDS MMS automatically too, just tested once again to make sure I'm not speaking BS.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

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As I stated.....mine SENDS MMS automatically too, just tested once again to make sure I'm not speaking BS.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
To add to this I am currently on axiom ROM but has always worked with everyone.

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zelendel

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As I stated.....mine SENDS MMS automatically too, just tested once again to make sure I'm not speaking BS.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

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To add to this I am currently on axiom ROM but has always worked with everyone.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

Shut your data off and try it. YOu are not understanding what we are talking about.
 

match417

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Thanks I found it. I would never run an odexed rom though. I check the source.

Wayne Tech Nexus
I just finished unlocking, rooting, and putting cyanogen mod 10.1 RC2 on it. My friend just successfully sent me an MMS and I definitely had the data off. It works now! SOOO now I can leave my data off AND get MMS messages :). Awesome!!