[Q] Now that we have S-Off, CWM or TWRP? Opinions?

dcorrea

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The subject pretty much says it all. Now that we have S-Off again (yay, way to go developers) which would you use and why, CWM or TWRP? Pros? Cons?
I've used both CWM and TWRP pretty extensively over the last few years but I have settled on TWRP just because I like the layout and ease of use. So far I haven't ran into anything that didn't play nice with either one, so for me its an aesthetic choice.
 
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I've only used TWRP once. A lot of people are using it these days because of the theming options and it being faster than CWM but I've read too many reports about various flashes not working properly with it. Stability trumps coolness for me so I'm sticking with CWM.
 

coachcrey

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I've used TWRP since I got my rezound way back when and have used it since then there where some issues fliashing kitkat when it first came out. Philz is a nice recovery too.

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Bobert360

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I wanted to chime in here: I've used both on my HTC one for Verizon and I seem to have a problem with both. After using JCase's root app and successfully getting s-off, I'm not able to get either recoveries to flash the superuser apk so that I can sustain root access. This is preventing me from flashing any rom. I know that a bunch of other people on this forum were able to get their roms flashed on so I was wondering if it's something I've done wrong, or just incompatibility with these 2 recoveries?

Steps I took:

1) installed JCase's weaksauce app, rebooted
2) obtained root, downloaded SU from market
3) proceeded with firewater to obtain s-off (successful)
4) installed clockwork recovery via fastboot.
5) proceeded to install superuser, unsuccessful.
6) rebooted phone, uninstalled SU (from 1st installation prior to s-off)
7) attempted to reinstall SU from Clockwork - fail.
8) flashed TWRP recovery, attempted to install SU, failed.

Not sure if there are other recoveries that I should be trying?

Thanks for the help!
 

dcorrea

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I wanted to chime in here: I've used both on my HTC one for Verizon and I seem to have a problem with both. After using JCase's root app and successfully getting s-off, I'm not able to get either recoveries to flash the superuser apk so that I can sustain root access. This is preventing me from flashing any rom. I know that a bunch of other people on this forum were able to get their roms flashed on so I was wondering if it's something I've done wrong, or just incompatibility with these 2 recoveries?

Steps I took:

1) installed JCase's weaksauce app, rebooted
2) obtained root, downloaded SU from market
3) proceeded with firewater to obtain s-off (successful)
4) installed clockwork recovery via fastboot.
5) proceeded to install superuser, unsuccessful.
6) rebooted phone, uninstalled SU (from 1st installation prior to s-off)
7) attempted to reinstall SU from Clockwork - fail.
8) flashed TWRP recovery, attempted to install SU, failed.

Not sure if there are other recoveries that I should be trying?

Thanks for the help!
Are you sure you obtained S-Off? One S-Off is complete, uninstall weaksauce, and flash recovery via fastboot (makes sure your using the latest cwm or TWP. I used this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2416431

Boot into recovery and flash SU. Worked like a champ for me.
 

Bobert360

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Are you sure you obtained S-Off? One S-Off is complete, uninstall weaksauce, and flash recovery via fastboot (makes sure your using the latest cwm or TWP. I used this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2416431

Boot into recovery and flash SU. Worked like a champ for me.
Thank you so much for your response. Yup, when I hold down the power and volume down button, my hboot says Unlocked at the top (which I believe to be the status of my bootloader) and S-Off.

I flashed recovery via fastboot, and tried what I believe to be the latest versions of both Clockwork and TWRP. I'll check out the link you sent again and will post results.

Question for you, after you uninstalled the weaksauce app, you left SU installed, correct? So the process would be uninstall weaksauce, reboot to fastboot mode, flash recovery, flash rom?

Thanks again!
 

dcorrea

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Thank you so much for your response. Yup, when I hold down the power and volume down button, my hboot says Unlocked at the top (which I believe to be the status of my bootloader) and S-Off.

I flashed recovery via fastboot, and tried what I believe to be the latest versions of both Clockwork and TWRP. I'll check out the link you sent again and will post results.

Question for you, after you uninstalled the weaksauce app, you left SU installed, correct? So the process would be uninstall weaksauce, reboot to fastboot mode, flash recovery, flash rom?

Thanks again!
Yep that's what I did. I flashed superuser before flashing the rom though. What error do you get when you try to flash superuser?

Oh wait, I just read your initial post. Youre not trying to flash an .apk through recovery right? You should be flashing a .zip file in recovery.
 

coachcrey

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You don't have to flash super user to flash a Rom either bro as long as you have custom recovery you can flash wahat ever Rom you want ?

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dcorrea

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You don't have to flash super user to flash a Rom either bro as long as you have custom recovery you can flash wahat ever Rom you want ?

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Yep, just to clarify I originally flashed superuser because I kept the stock rom, but I quickly went to the debloated rom the next day. But Coach is right, you don't need superuser to flash the rom.
 
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Dark Jedi

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I had cwm corrupt all my backups I had. Since then I ran twrp. As far as Rom issues people seems to have outdated twrp version or something about the Rom. When I had a Rom fail to flash while in recovery I would reboot recovery and would then flash just fine

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Crawshayi

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I had really good luck with TWRP 2.6.3.4 but when I upgraded to 2.7.0.1 suddenly backups failed. Never got an answer back on why that was happening, so I switched to Phiz and haven't had a problem with it yet so I'm gonna stick with it for now.