[Q] Paranoid noob question regarding S-off and previous Bootloader

[fashofasho]

I am wondering if I made any major changes or done anything wrong.

1) Yesterday I attempted to "S-Off" my phone for the first time ever since purchase. When "revolutionary.io" asked me what Bootloader I was on, I connected the phone through USB and the revolutionary executable told me 1.18.0000. The first few tries failed because it just kept saying "Waiting for bootloader" but after messing with different HTC drivers and unplugging a bunch of times it finally took and went through S-off. Now when I boot into bootloader it says my verison is 1.17 S-off. Is it correct that I went backwards from 1.18 to 1.17?

2) I flashed a custom ROM but being a noob that I am I knew nothing about firmware so I was stuck in bootloop of Cyanogen JB. I flashed through RUU to stock ROM but it is not the same stock ROM that came with my phone out of the box, some of the settings are different it does have the same network though TMOUS; especially the personalize options some of them do not work (themes). Is it alright if I flashed to this ROM as opposed to the exact same one that my phone came with? If I update my firmware and flash Cyanogen again this ROM is basically gone anyways right? I am just concerned that by RUU flashing this stock ROM I changed the firmware or baseband or something important.

Thats all I'm wondering, hoping you can give me a Yes or a No and a brief explanation to each question, thanks so much

 

[rzr86]

I am wondering if I made any major changes or done anything wrong.

1) Yesterday I attempted to "S-Off" my phone for the first time ever since purchase. When "revolutionary.io" asked me what Bootloader I was on, I connected the phone through USB and the revolutionary executable told me 1.18.0000. The first few tries failed because it just kept saying "Waiting for bootloader" but after messing with different HTC drivers and unplugging a bunch of times it finally took and went through S-off. Now when I boot into bootloader it says my verison is 1.17 S-off. Is it correct that I went backwards from 1.18 to 1.17?

2) I flashed a custom ROM but being a noob that I am I knew nothing about firmware so I was stuck in bootloop of Cyanogen JB. I flashed through RUU to stock ROM but it is not the same stock ROM that came with my phone out of the box, some of the settings are different it does have the same network though TMOUS; especially the personalize options some of them do not work (themes). Is it alright if I flashed to this ROM as opposed to the exact same one that my phone came with? If I update my firmware and flash Cyanogen again this ROM is basically gone anyways right? I am just concerned that by RUU flashing this stock ROM I changed the firmware or baseband or something important.

Thats all I'm wondering, hoping you can give me a Yes or a No and a brief explanation to each question, thanks so much

when you did S-OFF in order to install Cyanogen JB first you had to flash the latest fw version and then the rom
the rom you tried to install requires the latest fw version
now are you still s-off?
what is now your hboot version?
what is your fw version?

 

[Skipjacks]

I am wondering if I made any major changes or done anything wrong.

1) Yesterday I attempted to "S-Off" my phone for the first time ever since purchase. When "revolutionary.io" asked me what Bootloader I was on, I connected the phone through USB and the revolutionary executable told me 1.18.0000. The first few tries failed because it just kept saying "Waiting for bootloader" but after messing with different HTC drivers and unplugging a bunch of times it finally took and went through S-off. Now when I boot into bootloader it says my verison is 1.17 S-off. Is it correct that I went backwards from 1.18 to 1.17?

2) I flashed a custom ROM but being a noob that I am I knew nothing about firmware so I was stuck in bootloop of Cyanogen JB. I flashed through RUU to stock ROM but it is not the same stock ROM that came with my phone out of the box, some of the settings are different it does have the same network though TMOUS; especially the personalize options some of them do not work (themes). Is it alright if I flashed to this ROM as opposed to the exact same one that my phone came with? If I update my firmware and flash Cyanogen again this ROM is basically gone anyways right? I am just concerned that by RUU flashing this stock ROM I changed the firmware or baseband or something important.

Thats all I'm wondering, hoping you can give me a Yes or a No and a brief explanation to each question, thanks so much

1) Normal. You're good. And you'll have HBoot 1.27 or 1.29 when you're all done.

2) Not normal. You missed a step. You need to upgrade the firmware to 3.32 (HBoot 1.27) or 3.33 (HBoot 1.29). Either will run CM10, which gives you better performance is for you to decide. The difference is mainly the radio for cell reception. If you're a T Mobile user try the 3.32 for T Mobile for starters. (Available in the radio/firmware thread. Do a search and you'll find it.)

Basicly what you did was flash an Android 4.x ROM on Android 2.3 firmware. That doesn't work. They are incompatible.

If you RUU'ed back to stock, you might have reverted back to S-On and lost your custom recovery, so check. If you have S-On now, you have to start over.

If you still have s-off and can still get into your recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT, I receomend 4EXT but CM10 will load from either), find that Firmware thread, download 3.32 for T Mobile. Follow the instructions in that thread on how to install new firmware. It's painfully simple...you just put the firmware file on teh SD card, reboot, and let it do it's thing. The firmware thread will be more specific, but that's about it. It takes 2 minutes. The phone will suddenly go black and power off for a second during the process. Don't panic. It's normal. AND DON'T TOUCH IT UNTIL IT TELLS YOU TO!!!!

Once you've done that, the stock ROM you have now will not boot. You will need to boot to recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT), do a full wipe, and flash CM10 again.

It should not boot.

This entire process (if you are still s-off and have your recovery working still) should take no more than 15 minutes. It sounds complicated but it's really not. I promise!

I just gave you a general overview. If you get stuck at any point come back and ask more specific questions about where you are stuck.

 

[rzr86]

1) Normal. You're good. And you'll have HBoot 1.27 or 1.29 when you're all done.

2) Not normal. You missed a step. You need to upgrade the firmware to 3.32 (HBoot 1.27) or 3.33 (HBoot 1.29). Either will run CM10, which gives you better performance is for you to decide. The difference is mainly the radio for cell reception. If you're a T Mobile user try the 3.32 for T Mobile for starters. (Available in the radio/firmware thread. Do a search and you'll find it.)

Basicly what you did was flash an Android 4.x ROM on Android 2.3 firmware. That doesn't work. They are incompatible.

If you RUU'ed back to stock, you might have reverted back to S-On and lost your custom recovery, so check. If you have S-On now, you have to start over.

If you still have s-off and can still get into your recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT, I receomend 4EXT but CM10 will load from either), find that Firmware thread, download 3.32 for T Mobile. Follow the instructions in that thread on how to install new firmware. It's painfully simple...you just put the firmware file on teh SD card, reboot, and let it do it's thing. The firmware thread will be more specific, but that's about it. It takes 2 minutes. The phone will suddenly go black and power off for a second during the process. Don't panic. It's normal. AND DON'T TOUCH IT UNTIL IT TELLS YOU TO!!!!

Once you've done that, the stock ROM you have now will not boot. You will need to boot to recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT), do a full wipe, and flash CM10 again.

It should not boot.

This entire process (if you are still s-off and have your recovery working still) should take no more than 15 minutes. It sounds complicated but it's really not. I promise!

I just gave you a general overview. If you get stuck at any point come back and ask more specific questions about where you are stuck.

i got confused
.i think your answer is going for fashofasho

 

[fashofasho]

1) Normal. You're good. And you'll have HBoot 1.27 or 1.29 when you're all done.

2) Not normal. You missed a step. You need to upgrade the firmware to 3.32 (HBoot 1.27) or 3.33 (HBoot 1.29). Either will run CM10, which gives you better performance is for you to decide. The difference is mainly the radio for cell reception. If you're a T Mobile user try the 3.32 for T Mobile for starters. (Available in the radio/firmware thread. Do a search and you'll find it.)

Basicly what you did was flash an Android 4.x ROM on Android 2.3 firmware. That doesn't work. They are incompatible.

If you RUU'ed back to stock, you might have reverted back to S-On and lost your custom recovery, so check. If you have S-On now, you have to start over.

If you still have s-off and can still get into your recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT, I receomend 4EXT but CM10 will load from either), find that Firmware thread, download 3.32 for T Mobile. Follow the instructions in that thread on how to install new firmware. It's painfully simple...you just put the firmware file on teh SD card, reboot, and let it do it's thing. The firmware thread will be more specific, but that's about it. It takes 2 minutes. The phone will suddenly go black and power off for a second during the process. Don't panic. It's normal. AND DON'T TOUCH IT UNTIL IT TELLS YOU TO!!!!

Once you've done that, the stock ROM you have now will not boot. You will need to boot to recovery (Clockwork or 4EXT), do a full wipe, and flash CM10 again.

It should not boot.

This entire process (if you are still s-off and have your recovery working still) should take no more than 15 minutes. It sounds complicated but it's really not. I promise!

I just gave you a general overview. If you get stuck at any point come back and ask more specific questions about where you are stuck.

Thanks for the reply. Okay so here is where I am currently at. I haven't done anything since I reflashed stock ROM throguh RUU after the fail cyanogen flash. On this stock ROM whenever I load into bootloader it still says s-off 1.17 but I did lose my clockworkmod. So according to your instructions I should either clockworkmod again or 4ext now, that's okay right? If so, going to flash firmware then cyanogen!! Or is there a problem that I have s-off but not recovery.


P.s. there is no point in running revolutionary and have it s-off again when I already have it right, just thought it might be necessary to make things fresh

 

[Skipjacks]

If you have a bootable phone right now this is easy as you may not need adb or fast boot or anything.

First off you will need to install 4ext. Get the app from the Play Store. Then run it and let it install its recovery module. (You may need to be rooted to do thus, which your stock rom is not. Im not sure if you can flash the recovery without root or not because Ive never tried without root. If so, then you will have to install Superuser via fastboot I think. You any guide for rooting to get instructions on this. Its easy.)

You may also find a way to install 4ext recovery via flashing from bootloader, but you will have to search for that. You MAY even be able to install it with the firmware upgrade. You will have to see if that is an available option.

Get your firmware from this thread...

forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767

Follow the instructions to update. Once you have 3.3x firmware and 4ext simply boot to recovery, do a full wipe, and flash cm10 (make sure cm10 is on your sd card. You can download it from your currently working gingerbread rom so you have it available)

You have like 15-20 minutes worth of work to do, so its not a monumental obstacle to overcome. It just seems like alot

Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app

 

[fashofasho]

If you have a bootable phone right now this is easy as you may not need adb or fast boot or anything.

First off you will need to install 4ext. Get the app from the Play Store. Then run it and let it install its recovery module. (You may need to be rooted to do thus, which your stock rom is not. Im not sure if you can flash the recovery without root or not because Ive never tried without root. If so, then you will have to install Superuser via fastboot I think. You any guide for rooting to get instructions on this. Its easy.)

You may also find a way to install 4ext recovery via flashing from bootloader, but you will have to search for that. You MAY even be able to install it with the firmware upgrade. You will have to see if that is an available option.

Get your firmware from this thread...

forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767

Follow the instructions to update. Once you have 3.3x firmware and 4ext simply boot to recovery, do a full wipe, and flash cm10 (make sure cm10 is on your sd card. You can download it from your currently working gingerbread rom so you have it available)

You have like 15-20 minutes worth of work to do, so its not a monumental obstacle to overcome. It just seems like alot

Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app

I am not rooted but am S-off. So my next step would be to root. I am suppose to have Clockworkmod to root AND 4EXT after right? Its not one or the other? I keep reading that people recommend 4ext is better than CWM but in order to root su-2.3.6.3-ef-signed.zip I need CWM first correct?

 

[rzr86]

I am not rooted but am S-off. So my next step would be to root. I am suppose to have Clockworkmod to root AND 4EXT after right? Its not one or the other? I keep reading that people recommend 4ext is better than CWM but in order to root su-2.3.6.3-ef-signed.zip I need CWM first correct?

flash su-2.3.6.3-ef-signed.zip first and then install 4ext recovery

 

[Skipjacks]

You're over engineering this. You don't need to root your current ROM first. That's an extra step since you're s-off.

If you are s-off it's really simple to get 4EXT recovery.

First, download this and put it on the root directory of your SD Card (meaning not in a folder, just on the SD Card. Do not rename it)

http://d-h.st/qnm

I got this download link from here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21989107
Click Thanks for Joaquinf in that thread. He made the 4EXT zip that's flashable through the bootloader.

That is 4EXT made into a zip file that's flashable via the bootloader, which you can do when you are S-off.

So put that file on the SD card, power the phone off, pull the battery out for a second and put it back in (this stops fastboot so you can get back to the bootloader). Then hold volume down and power at the same time. You have to hit both buttons at the same time. If it goes to the splash screen, pull the battery and try again.

When the bootloader loads up it will immediately find the PM58IMG.zip file. It will ask you if you want to install the update. Say yes by hitting volume up I think (it will tell you how to say yes)

Put the phone down and don't touch it until it tells you it's done. Should just take a second. But seriously don't touch it. Leave it alone.

If that works, you've just flashed 4EXT. You can check it by pulling the SD card out (so it doesn't try to flash the PM58IMG again) and rebooting to the bootloader and selecting 'recovery' from the menu. 4EXT should boot up.

This entire process so far shouldn't take more than 3 minutes total. It just sounds like a lot.

To see this detailed out by someone else in case you want to check what I'm saying, read steps 4 and 5 of the first post in this thread.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21989063&postcount=1
Give the author 'thanks' again because he's awesome and deserves it.

Now you've got 4EXT installed. Great. You're 1/3rd of the way home.

Now you need to update your firmware. Delete the PM58IMG.zip file you used to flash 4EXT off the SD card (use a card reader or boot the phone up and delete it, whatever works. You can also use 4EXT as a card reader now too by choosing USB storage from inside 4EXT. It will give you access toteh SD card on your computer now)

Now get new Firmware from this thread.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21711154#post21711154

try the 3.33 firmware universal. First download link in post 2 of the thread above.

CHECK THE MD5 SUM!!!! I'M NOT PLAYING AROUND HERE!!! You are worried about bricking your phone, this is where you can do it if the firmware .zip is bad.

Put that PM58IMG file on your SD and flash it in the bootloader the same way you flashed 4EXT recovery a minute ago. (If you're still in 4EXT recovery you can use it's power menu to reboot into bootloader easily.)

This will take a minute. The phone will shut off and go black in the middle of this process. Your heart will skip a beat. Relax. It'll come back on. Again, put the phone down and walk away while it does it's thing and don't touch it until it says it's done.

Delete the PM58IMG file from your SD card.

You are now 2/3 of the way there. Your phone WILL NOT boot up right now because your ROM is not compatible with your firmware. Relax. That's supposed to happen.

Now you can flash CM10. Make sure you have the CM10.zip file on your SD card nad GApps. (Bruce has Gapps in his downloads page). Delete the PM58IMG firmware file from your SD card (that's important)

Pull the battery again so you can get back into bootloader. Get into bootloader (power + volume down)

Select Recovery

4EXT should boot up.

Go to the Wipe menu. Wipe all partitions except SD card. (Old ROM is now gone)

Go back to the main menu.

Install from SD

Find the CM10.zip file you should have downloaded and put onto the SD card. Flash it.

This will take about 3 minutes. 4EXT will flash it and ask if you want to reboot. You do not yet. Not you need to flash Gapps the same way you flashed the ROM.

When that's done, now you can reboot. You shoudl see the CyanogenMod boot animation after the splash screen. Give it a few minutes to boot up this first time. Once it boots, set it up the way you like it. If you enjoy it, donate a few bucks to the developer, Bruce.

You don't have to root CM10. It's already rooted when you boot it up the first time.