[Q] pending kitkat update and bootloader

[brownrt]

Since Motorola announced that KitKat will be coming to the HD, hopefully another boot loader unlock will follow. My phone was stolen and the Assurion sent me a replacement that was already upgraded to latest OTA.

 

[grnsl2]

Something a lot of us are hoping for.

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[saloums7]

Not trying to be a party pooper but if anything changes with the boot loader its only going to be even harder to crack... that's the point of an update they're not going to make stuff easier for the dev community, especially not on a Verizon device haha as for the rest of us, we can always unlock through moto (xt925)

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[DorianX]

Is not possible to get an unlock directly from Motorola? I mean make a massive petition to Motorola from all locked devices owners not just xt926 I think that another models are locked

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[saloums7]

Is not possible to get an unlock directly from Motorola? I mean make a massive petition to Motorola from all locked devices owners not just xt926 I think that another models are locked

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XT925/ "international version" can be unlocked through Motorola just fine, the only device locked down is the XT926 and I doubt that's going to change anytime soon (officially anyway) and it sure won't be any easier to unlock it after an update

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[DorianX]

So bad for xt926 owners

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[peladoro]

i just received this phone today and am not familiar with moto having had a samsung infuse. i saw that on the site one can unlock the bootloader so this is the way to root the device? i'm in st jean and with rogers as well

thx

XT925/ "international version" can be unlocked through Motorola just fine, the only device locked down is the XT926 and I doubt that's going to change anytime soon (officially anyway) and it sure won't be any easier to unlock it after an update

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[RikRong]

Is not possible to get an unlock directly from Motorola? I mean make a massive petition to Motorola from all locked devices owners not just xt926 I think that another models are locked

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It's not really Moto, it's Verizon. Notice that you can unlock the 925?

i just received this phone today and am not familiar with moto having had a samsung infuse. i saw that on the site one can unlock the bootloader so this is the way to root the device? i'm in st jean and with rogers as well

thx

The 925 should be able to be unlocked through the Moto website.

 

[peladoro]

so just to be clear the bootloader doesn't necessarily have to be unlocked first via moto site...i can use this toolkit 4.0 utility that has an option to unlock bootloader is this accurate?

thx

It's not really Moto, it's Verizon. Notice that you can unlock the 925?


The 925 should be able to be unlocked through the Moto website.

 

[RikRong]

so just to be clear the bootloader doesn't necessarily have to be unlocked first via moto site...i can use this toolkit 4.0 utility that has an option to unlock bootloader is this accurate?

thx

I think it depends on the system version, but I'm not really sure for the 925. For the 926, you had to be on the version that was two OTAs ago to be able to unlock. For the 925, you can try Motopocalypse, the worst it will do is fail. If it doesn't work, then the website should work fine for you.

 

[peladoro]

ok thx...i just received the phone today well yesterday at this point...haven't even booted up yet. wasn't sure if i'll keep it or not. how do u find it? i mean do u recommend it? i have an infuse 4g presently so just wondering if i should switch...

I think it depends on the system version, but I'm not really sure for the 925. For the 926, you had to be on the version that was two OTAs ago to be able to unlock. For the 925, you can try Motopocalypse, the worst it will do is fail. If it doesn't work, then the website should work fine for you.

 

[RikRong]

ok thx...i just received the phone today well yesterday at this point...haven't even booted up yet. wasn't sure if i'll keep it or not. how do u find it? i mean do u recommend it? i have an infuse 4g presently so just wondering if i should switch...

Honestly, I'm kind of biased. I just got the Razr M in January and it was my first smart phone, ever. So, naturally, I was impressed because it was such a drastic improvement over my dumb phone. I purchased my HD used in September and I like it even more than the M. The battery life is noticeably better and the screen is better. It also has a lot more memory than the M, which I think accounts for why it feels a little quicker than the M. The ROM and processor are the same as the M, though. Luckily, I was able to unlock the bootloader on the M and I purchased the HD unlocked, so my custom options are endless. It wouldn't hurt to boot it and see how you like it, prior to modifying it.

 

[peladoro]

Exactly what I was getting at...I was wondering in terms of customizing it. I guess being somewhat familiar with the Samsung method was wondering how easy it was for moto cuz it sort of sounds more complicated or maybe it's just unfamiliar...u know what I mean?

Honestly, I'm kind of biased. I just got the Razr M in January and it was my first smart phone, ever. So, naturally, I was impressed because it was such a drastic improvement over my dumb phone. I purchased my HD used in September and I like it even more than the M. The battery life is noticeably better and the screen is better. It also has a lot more memory than the M, which I think accounts for why it feels a little quicker than the M. The ROM and processor are the same as the M, though. Luckily, I was able to unlock the bootloader on the M and I purchased the HD unlocked, so my custom options are endless. It wouldn't hurt to boot it and see how you like it, prior to modifying it.

 

[RikRong]

Exactly what I was getting at...I was wondering in terms of customizing it. I guess being somewhat familiar with the Samsung method was wondering how easy it was for moto cuz it sort of sounds more complicated or maybe it's just unfamiliar...u know what I mean?

Yeah, I know what you mean. My first experience with Android was my Tab2 and it was really easy to unlock. I didn't see which model of the HD you picked up. If you are international, you are good. Yes, it is kind of a pain to unlock through the Moto website, but if you're good with ADB, I believe you run ADB commands to unlock the BL. If you have the 926 and it's on the latest OTA, you're out of luck for root or unlocking.

 

[peladoro]

Yeah, I knI believe shipped w what you mean. My first experience with Android was my Tab2 and it was really easy to unlock. I didn't
see which model of the HD you picked up. If you are international, you are good. Yes, it is kind of a pain to unlock through the Moto website, but if you're good with ADB, I believe you run ADB commands to unlock the BL. If you have the 926 and it's on the latest OTA, you're out of luck for root or unlocking.

I've got the 925...in Canada. And shipped with ICS 4.0 if not mistaken. Well i'm still a noob at this but i've flashed alot so i have a base knowledge.

 

[ajent]

I wasn't aware of HD getting 4.4, that's nice.
I just got my replacement from bestbuy's insurance. I was excited thinking it would be a version I could unlock, (my last one was only rooted) but instead I find that it's already on 9.30 and I can't even root it!

 

[RikRong]

I've got the 925...in Canada. And shipped with ICS 4.0 if not mistaken. Well i'm still a noob at this but i've flashed alot so i have a base knowledge.

You should be able to unlock your BL using ADB or the Moto website. Then, you'll be able to load up a custom recovery and flash some ROMs. The only bad thing, though, is that not all the custom ROMs support the 925.

 

[peladoro]

I've been trying it out today...It came with 4.1.2 installed. So far I like it. Do u know if I can use Dan Rosenberg's methods like the motochopper and as u suggested motopocalypse. What I understand I can unlock the boot loader with Motorola but is this less advantageous than with motopoc....all this bugs me about the phone seems very difficult to gain root

You should be able to unlock your BL using ADB or the Moto website. Then, you'll be able to load up a custom recovery and flash some ROMs. The only bad thing, though, is that not all the custom ROMs support the 925.

 

[brownrt]

Not trying to be a party pooper but if anything changes with the boot loader its only going to be even harder to crack... that's the point of an update they're not going to make stuff easier for the dev community, especially not on a Verizon device haha as for the rest of us, we can always unlock through moto (xt925)

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It has been my experience, and I have rooted and unlocked at least 10 different personal Android devices, that updates seem to move the unlocking process along. Finding differences in the code seems to allow devs to pinpoint potential exploits. That being said, you are absolutely correct in saying that an updated bootloader is harder to crack. This is why almost every exploit for any device that has been rooted comes with the disclaimer to not update to the newest latest greatest software.

Fortunatly, the newest update does not prevent the seem edit that unlocks the SIM. I am using my xt926 on T-Mobile because, screw Verizon.


To the new people considering unlocking, I highly reccommend unlocking for the sake of battery performance. I have the Razr HD Maxx and the battery lasts a very reasonable 24-26 hours with light to medium usage. Running PacMan, my battery lasted at least 48 hours and sometimes into 3 days.

 

[brownrt]

Is not possible to get an unlock directly from Motorola? I mean make a massive petition to Motorola from all locked devices owners not just xt926 I think that another models are locked

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I am certain that there is already one that was floated around sometime last year. I doubt Motogoogle is motivated to change anything via petition especially if these petitions represent people that have already purchased the device. Instead they will improve the next product, in this case the Moto X.