[Q] Question about the Terms..

[Jaskwith]

Hi, I am looking to root my MT4G.. but I always see "root at your own risk" etc... Well, I am ready to root at my own risk, however I don't really know enough to want to attempt thsi yet.. so I am looking for a general thread explaining what this stuff is and how it is explained..(definitions for commonly used terms and acronyms..) someone please point me somewhere.... Thank you.

 

[Jaskwith]

I have been looking for a thread that answers these questions I have and I haven't found one in about a week, so I posted this...however I literally just found one, that I think answers most of my questions @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859446&highlight=guide sooo any MOD please close or delete my thread, and I am sorry for wasting your time.

 

[shlongwoodian]

I used grankin01's instructions...

I know there's a lot of info out there, especially if you just search for "root." It can be a bit daunting at first, especially if you're not oriented properly.

I have rooted 3 MT4G's using the following guide by grankin01...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225

It really can't be any easier. I started out on a G1 and rooting was not this easy back then. To paraphrase grankin01's instructions (please read his instructions carefully and do this at your own risk)...

1. Download and install VISIONary
2. Extract that root.rar file to your sdcard. This is where a lot of people got messed up. There's a 'root' folder within a 'root' folder 'cause the person who originally .RAR'd these files, RAR'd a 'root' folder. Basically, when all is said and done, you should have a folder named 'root' on your SD Card. Within the 'root' folder, will be 3 files - hboot_dhd.nb0, Root.sh & wpx.ko.
3. Run VISIONary and click Temproot now - you now have temporary root access
4. Download and run Terminal Emulator and execute the commands outlined in grankin01's post. You will be prompted to restart. Once your phone boots back up, run VISIONary again only this time, click Attempt permoot now. Your screen will go black and eventually, the phone will reboot.

On two occassions, when I was doing this on replacement MT4G's I received, I forgot to enable USB Debugging. I found that VISIONary would just spin its wheels at the Temproot portion. After rebooting the phone and trying again, VISIONary actually prompted with an error to let me know USB Debugging had to be enabled. Totally my fault, but the app just spins its wheels at first, so you don't really know what's up until you reboot and try again.

To recap:

- VISIONary temproot
- Commands outlined in grankin01's post
- VISIONary permroot

It really is quite easy to do! If anything, there are plenty of redundant posts that explain how to get root access. I hope my info above doesn't add to the mire.

 

[Jaskwith]

I know there's a lot of info out there, especially if you just search for "root." It can be a bit daunting at first, especially if you're not oriented properly.

I think that is why I posted this... Because I have been searching but I don't know what exactly to search for, or what step to do such thinigs in...I appreciate the help. I am currently following the s=off perma root guide, however I am struggling at getting my ADB drivers installed correctly....sooo I have some tinkering to do but I am looking forward to rooting my phone, and I don't even know what that is gonna open up..CANT WAIT!!!

EDIT: I checked out your link, and I am using a guide written by him, i believe, but it is the one that is a little more complex, and causes a deeper perma root...

 

[grankin01]

For the ADB drivers just look on the sdcard that came with your phone. There should be a file named HTCDRIVER.EXE. Just copy that to your windows desktop and execute it. It will install the drivers you need. As for linux, my Kubuntu 10.10 installation saw my phone without any problems or driver installations.

The new guide with the "deeper" root actually is the better one to follow. Its really not as complicated or difficult as it looks.

 

[Jaskwith]

For the ADB drivers just look on the sdcard that came with your phone. There should be a file named HTCDRIVER.EXE. Just copy that to your windows desktop and execute it. It will install the drivers you need. As for linux, my Kubuntu 10.10 installation saw my phone without any problems or driver installations.

The new guide with the "deeper" root actually is the better one to follow. Its really not as complicated or difficult as it looks.

Freaking awesome...in sitting here at work not looking forward to going home to another wasted two hours trying to set the driver up you just saved my day with that info about the driver...you sure it has the adb driver though..?


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[grankin01]

Freaking awesome...in sitting here at work not looking forward to going home to another wasted two hours trying to set the driver up you just saved my day with that info about the driver...you sure it has the adb driver though..?


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Yeah, I had to install it for adb to work on my windows installation and it has saved several other people heartache too.

 

[Jaskwith]

Ughhhh.. just found out I work at job #2 tonight...how FREAKING lame...like I wasted ALL my freetime not being able to figure it out last night and now that I think I know what to do... I have NO time...BLAH!!

 

[Jaskwith]

Okay, so my ADB **** is still not working... I don't know why.. I am following the guide over at theunlockr.com and it still won't work.. I installed the SDK from google... I didnt DL the archives however... and then I installed the drivers off my SD card onto my computer, and when I open the Command prompt and type cd\ cd AndroidSDK\tools\ it says the directory does not exist... it says on the unlocr guide to try installing PDAneT and that might help, and so i did that as well, still says directory does not exist...ARGH this is frustrating!

 

[Jaskwith]

Do you need perma root to boot into recovery?

 

[c_licious]

I would just follow the visionary method so you won't even have to bother with adb. Just use root explorer to copy and past the files into the right directory. Did it on the bus, took me 5 minutes. No need to get true/deep root especially for someone just starting off. I promise, for all you'll be doing (and a hell of a lot more) you'll NEVER know the difference. Just gives you more options to screw up your phone. Start with perm root (set up the easy way), flash a rom or two, mess around with some cool apps for root users, figure out adb, and then work your way up to messing with the deeper system stuff (if you still feel need).

Just my 2¢

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[grankin01]

It sounds like you are looking in the wrong directory. Open your file browser and do a search for adb and pay attention to what folder it is in. My installation had like two subdirectories before I could even get to the tools directory on my windows drive.

That is if you still want to try adb. It is a valueable thing to learn. Espescially if your going to be doing these kinds of things to your devices. It can take a brick and turn it back into a phone if you know how to use it.

 

[Jaskwith]

Thank you kind sirs you are very helpful to a pour nub such as myself...well it seems like I dont havr any freaking time ever so I think I might take c_licious's advice for now and read up on adb some more...i did see that in the thread its easy to convert from the perma root to the deep perma root so think that's what ill do. Thank you grankin for the tip on finding adb drivers that will definitely come in handy when I get to that. Yayyyyy!!!!

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