[Q] Really no LTE or does AT&T not know how to advertise?

strychninetwitch

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I have an Infuse and plan to stay with it until it comes off contract, but I looked at the SGSII page on AT&T's website and it says 4G HSPA+... Really? Is it really only HSPA+? Or does AT&T want to repel all customers by advertising a Ferrari as having a 20HP Ford engine?
 

Entropy512

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I'm glad it doesn't have LTE. I like having a reasonably sized phone with good battery life.

Haven't you noticed that Verizon customers are screwed? They get a choice of outdated underpowered phones, or battery-hogging fatties that provide no speed benefits for a significant portion of the population. In fact, apparently many of Verizon's LTE phones don't work well at all in non-LTE service areas.

I won't see LTE anywhere near where I live for years (probably not until my next upgrade cycle at least) so I'm glad this doesn't have LTE.
 

shaxs

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I have an Infuse and plan to stay with it until it comes off contract, but I looked at the SGSII page on AT&T's website and it says 4G HSPA+... Really? Is it really only HSPA+? Or does AT&T want to repel all customers by advertising a Ferrari as having a 20HP Ford engine?
No, it does not have LTE. LTE on AT&T is only available in a very small amount of cities. However, AT&T is not good at advertising just as you are not good at researching.... ;)
 
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dandrumheller

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I'm glad it doesn't have LTE. I like having a reasonably sized phone with good battery life.

Haven't you noticed that Verizon customers are screwed? They get a choice of outdated underpowered phones, or battery-hogging fatties that provide no speed benefits for a significant portion of the population. In fact, apparently many of Verizon's LTE phones don't work well at all in non-LTE service areas.

I won't see LTE anywhere near where I live for years (probably not until my next upgrade cycle at least) so I'm glad this doesn't have LTE.
+1 10char.


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shadowskorch

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The guy at the store said that the phone is let capable and can be upgraded by an ota update later on. People have also found out that they have an lte icon in the system too. So its definitely on this phone.

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antiochasylum

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The guy at the store said that the phone is let capable and can be upgraded by an ota update later on. People have also found out that they have an lte icon in the system too. So its definitely on this phone.

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Your fucking kidding me right? You can't be that dumb. It's not software related. There is NO LTE modem in the device. Are people seriously this gullible?

They use the same systemUI.apk where all your 3G, H, and H+ icons are located and just change xml's for different devices.

If the guy at the store said you can run iPhone apps, you going to believe him too?

Call me a jerk, asshole, whatever some people just need to be treated like they have no intelligence.

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Entropy512

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The guy at the store said that the phone is let capable and can be upgraded by an ota update later on. People have also found out that they have an lte icon in the system too. So its definitely on this phone.

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Store reps can NEVER be trusted for information like this.

And the presence of icons means nothing. A lot of frameworks are designed in a generic manner to ease software maintenance. We've got bootsplashes for Korean devices in our param.lfs for example.
 

shadowskorch

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Woah. Slow down there bud. This isn't my first android phone. I knew i wanted this weeks in advance so i didn't really care whether it had 4g. Now that i see reports of it being a possibility you go ape sh*t on me. You have to chill out.

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Because by marketing regulations, AT&T can call their HSPA+ network 4G.

I'm surprised no one's complaining about TMO's less competent HSPA+ network.

Its just how oil companies can market their stuff as full synthetic as long as they have an X% of synthetic oil in overall volume.
 

Entropy512

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Woah. Slow down there bud. This isn't my first android phone. I knew i wanted this weeks in advance so i didn't really care whether it had 4g. Now that i see reports of it being a possibility you go ape sh*t on me. You have to chill out.

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You didn't "see reports of it being a possibility" - you said it was definitely on this phone.

It is definitely NOT on this phone.
 

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In the "post your stock firmware " thread most, but not all were identical. Could odd balls possibly have different hardware? I can early upgrade on 10/16 from Infuse. If LTE version comes out wouldn't one be able to disable LTE radio/network like other bands? Would think it also would have hsdpa+ as a fallback??

an INFUSION of REALITY
 

MisterEdF

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Woah. Slow down there bud. This isn't my first android phone. I knew i wanted this weeks in advance so i didn't really care whether it had 4g. Now that i see reports of it being a possibility you go ape sh*t on me. You have to chill out.

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In your post you said it was "definitely" on this phone "because the guy in the store told you" and you wonder why you got skewered? :rolleyes:
 

smitty1

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At$t also has not finished the backhaul on its Hspa+ network, so most places do not even get that.

But the nice thing about hspa+ once it is done everyone will have access to a 21mbps network, that is pretty damn fast.

The no lte does not bother me a bit considering At$t hasn't even completed their +hspa.
 

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At$t also has not finished the backhaul on its Hspa+ network, so most places do not even get that.

But the nice thing about hspa+ once it is done everyone will have access to a 21mbps network, that is pretty damn fast.

The no lte does not bother me a bit considering At$t hasn't even completed their +hspa.
+1 - Couldn't agree more.
 

foxbat121

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In the "post your stock firmware " thread most, but not all were identical. Could odd balls possibly have different hardware? I can early upgrade on 10/16 from Infuse. If LTE version comes out wouldn't one be able to disable LTE radio/network like other bands? Would think it also would have hsdpa+ as a fallback??

an INFUSION of REALITY
No, the LTE version just entered field testing. It is different sized phone and uses a different CPU (1.5Ghz Qualcomm vs 1.2GHz Exynos) as well. So, there will not be a mix up.
 

adamfalkofske

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At$t also has not finished the backhaul on its Hspa+ network, so most places do not even get that.

But the nice thing about hspa+ once it is done everyone will have access to a 21mbps network, that is pretty damn fast.

The no lte does not bother me a bit considering At$t hasn't even completed their +hspa.
Is LTE even that much faster than H+'s 21mbps? I don't see the point of getting an LTE phone for that extra speed while it drains your battery. How much speed do you really need to play Words with Friends? I'll stick with H+ phones
 
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