[Q] Should I get the Z2 Tablet or wait for the Z4?

[testudoaubreii]

Hello,

My question is pretty much what the title asks. I just got rid of my tablet, prematurely (don't ask lol), and it is a great tablet. I want another one, but I am wondering if I should wait until the Z4 drops. I mean, I really only watch movies and Netflix, with the occasional PS4 Remote Play and PC gaming with Limelight. I can get a brand new 32GB white model Z2 Tablet for $400. Do you think that the Z4 is going to be much more powerful and feature rich than the Z2?

What do you all think?

Thanks!

 

[solmiler]

My guess is that it will have the same performance as Z2. From what I have seen and read about 810 it is not much of a performer, so an increased resolution should put it on par with 801 in Z2.
I've owned Z3 Tablet Compact, which is a bit faster than Z2, for a while and it was OK but I expected it to be so much more. Though it was quite faster in games and had a snappier UI than iPad Air.
But it still may be worth waiting for the release of Z4, since the price of Z2 should drop considerably.

 

[knoxploration]

My guess is that it will have the same performance as Z2. From what I have seen and read about 810 it is not much of a performer, so an increased resolution should put it on par with 801 in Z2.
I've owned Z3 Tablet Compact, which is a bit faster than Z2, for a while and it was OK but I expected it to be so much more. Though it was quite faster in games and had a snappier UI than iPad Air.
But it still may be worth waiting for the release of Z4, since the price of Z2 should drop considerably.

Utter nonsense.

Snapdragon 810 is significantly more powerful than 801 both in terms of CPU and graphics performance, and it's the GPU that will deal with the extra resolution anyway, leaving the processor free to bring its performance benefits elsewhere. Plus there's a whole lot more to this than performance anyway -- the Z4 Tablet is way ahead of the Z2 Tablet in terms of battery life, screen brightness, size (it's almost 12% smaller), weight (11% lighter), built-in storage (32GB vs 16GB), has no cover over the USB port, has a better front camera, has better audio, etc. etc.

Basically the only ways that the Z2 Tablet is better than its successor are the inclusion of the magnetic charging port, and a lower pricetag. European-market pricing for the Z4 Tablet without the keyboard dock is around US$600, so you'll save about 30% on the older, lesser model.

 

[solmiler]

Utter nonsense.

Snapdragon 810 is significantly more powerful than 801 both in terms of CPU and graphics performance, and it's the GPU that will deal with the extra resolution anyway, leaving the processor free to bring its performance benefits elsewhere. Plus there's a whole lot more to this than performance anyway -- the Z4 Tablet is way ahead of the Z2 Tablet in terms of battery life, screen brightness, size (it's almost 12% smaller), weight (11% lighter), built-in storage (32GB vs 16GB), has no cover over the USB port, has a better front camera, has better audio, etc. etc.

Basically the only ways that the Z2 Tablet is better than its successor are the inclusion of the magnetic charging port, and a lower pricetag. European-market pricing for the Z4 Tablet without the keyboard dock is around US$600, so you'll save about 30% on the older, lesser model.

Ok 810 is good performer. What i was saying is that Z4 UI will perform the same as Z2.

There is 77% more pixels on Z4. How much more powerful is 810? Even if it was 100% more powerful how would that translate in usage. That is roughly 10% better performance. On the videos i've seen z4 drops frames and stutters occasionally, same as Z2 and Z3 TC both of which I've used.
Battery has the same capacity. Sony has absolutely top power saving features but will it manage to draw that much more out of it? I expect battery life to be the same.
Using percentages to describe size reduction is soo apple. Point is, the new tablet will be
12 mm shorter, 5mm narrower and 0.3mm thinner.
All those things are great but for the use he mentioned it is not worth the price difference.

 

[knoxploration]

Ok 810 is good performer. What i was saying is that Z4 UI will perform the same as Z2.

There is 77% more pixels on Z4. How much more powerful is 810? Even if it was 100% more powerful how would that translate in usage. That is roughly 10% better performance. On the videos i've seen z4 drops frames and stutters occasionally, same as Z2 and Z3 TC both of which I've used.
Battery has the same capacity. Sony has absolutely top power saving features but will it manage to draw that much more out of it? I expect battery life to be the same.
Using percentages to describe size reduction is soo apple. Point is, the new tablet will be
12 mm shorter, 5mm narrower and 0.3mm thinner.
All those things are great but for the use he mentioned it is not worth the price difference.

Congratulations on ignoring the bulk of my post.

 

[rm40f2]

Trying to use pixel count to estimate the relative performance difference between the two tablets seems silly to me, especially when you're only focusing on CPU.

Like knoxploration said, the GPU is what matters. The Adreno 430 in the Z4 can easily best the Adreno 330 in the Z2.

Still, I think we're splitting hairs. Both tablets seem great. It just comes down to personal preference. Go with the Z4 if you want the latest and greatest, or stick with the still very capable Z2 if you want to save some money.

Personally, I think the Z4 will finally convince me to get a tablet.

Edit: If you want a formal comparison between the Z2 and Z4, here's an article from PC Advisor:
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/...2-tablet-vs-sony-xperia-z4-tablet-comparison/

Edit 2: And if you want benchmarks between the Adreno 330 and Adreno 430, here's another link:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/adreno-430-benchmarked-trounces-adreno-330/

 

[bplogan]

Sounds like price is your most sensitive issue. Otherwise it wouldn't be a concern... I have a z2 and z3 compact, never had any performance issues, and I fully intend to get the z4 asap.

 

[solmiler]

Trying to use pixel count to estimate the relative performance difference between the two tablets seems silly to me, especially when you're only focusing on CPU.

Like knoxploration said, the GPU is what matters. The Adreno 430 in the Z4 can easily best the Adreno 330 in the Z2.

Actually I wasn't focusing on CPU I thought that Adreno GPU was a part of Snapdragon processor. I think it is but if I've made a mistake, I apologize. I have looked at HTC M8 vs M9 for comparison since they both have the same resolution displays and have sd 801 vs 810 (or Adreno 330 vs 430). I looked at GFXBench results to draw my conclusion so it was actually the gpu performance that I have been referring.

 

[rm40f2]

You're right, solmiler! Excuse me while I remove my foot from my mouth.

 

[yiyi28]

I owned Z2. It's super smooth especially for an android tablet, which you usually wouldn't install to much software on it.
Considering the poor performance of 810 when temperature goes high and the higher resolution it has, I would recommend you to go for a Z2 if you get a very good deal on it.
I bet Z2 and Z4 will have almost the same performance.. and Z2 would be way cheaper and easy to get.

 

[Geeks Empire]

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Hello,

My question is pretty much what the title asks. I just got rid of my tablet, prematurely (don't ask lol), and it is a great tablet. I want another one, but I am wondering if I should wait until the Z4 drops. I mean, I really only watch movies and Netflix, with the occasional PS4 Remote Play and PC gaming with Limelight. I can get a brand new 32GB white model Z2 Tablet for $400. Do you think that the Z4 is going to be much more powerful and feature rich than the Z2?

What do you all think?

Thanks!

If you are heavy user so w8 for Z4 Table
cause with 64Bit you ll get better performance (more ability for heavy usage)

:good:

 

[rm40f2]

Interesting article about the Snapdragon 810 heat problems:

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/in-depth-with-the-snapdragon-810s-heat-problems/