[Q] SM-P607T (T-Mobile) -- Can it make calls?

dsp4774

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That's my big question. I use my phone so rarely for calls, and my phone plan has a way better data plan than anything I can get with this tablet. If I can use my SIM from my phone on the tablet and be able to make/receive calls, I think I would be set in a way I've only dreamt of.

So, does anyone know if this is possible? There doesn't appear to be an app on the stock device for calling. The site http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=6176&view=1&c=samsung_sm-p607t_galaxy_note_10.1_2014_lte-a shows this:

Phone Controller: Qualcomm MSM8974A

That just refers to the Snapdragon!

Any thoughts on this?
 

mjrshark

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Am not sure exactly the spec of SM-P607T , but look like its has sim to use data-net only , but not making callsas
p600 is wifi only
p601 is wifi and 3g can be used as phone
p605 is wifi and 4g can be used as phone
p607 is wifi and 4g can't be used as phone
 

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That's my big question. I use my phone so rarely for calls, and my phone plan has a way better data plan than anything I can get with this tablet. If I can use my SIM from my phone on the tablet and be able to make/receive calls, I think I would be set in a way I've only dreamt of.

So, does anyone know if this is possible? There doesn't appear to be an app on the stock device for calling. The site http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=6176&view=1&c=samsung_sm-p607t_galaxy_note_10.1_2014_lte-a shows this:

Phone Controller: Qualcomm MSM8974A

That just refers to the Snapdragon!

Any thoughts on this?
Only way for you to find out would be to flash a 605 rom and see with a voice sim card. You can always odin back to stock if you want to. I have yet to flash a 605 rom because I finally got the stock rom where I want it.
 

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Only way for you to find out would be to flash a 605 rom and see with a voice sim card. You can always odin back to stock if you want to. I have yet to flash a 605 rom because I finally got the stock rom where I want it.
This seems like it could work. I'll do a backup first and try it out--there would be 0% surprise here if tmo just didn't want people replacing phones with tablets.

As I go through TB, I see a com.sec.phone.fake 4.4.2-P607TUVUANE2. I tried to google up the first part of that only to be met with a lot of information about how to enjoy becoming a phone sex operator. I'm wondering if someone with a P605 can look through with TB (or whatever) to see what might be in place when it comes to the phone.
 
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I've been on international 3G G-Tabs with phone features for three years. In that time, no U.S. carrier's Samsung tablet has ever supported phone features. Also in that time, I've never seen anyone successfully add phone features to a U.S. tablet through modding or use an international ROM on a U.S. tablet that didn't bork the radio. So I'd make sure you T-Mobile folks have tested back-ups before you flash a P-605 ROM. The P-605M does support U.S. LTE bands and I'll probably get one the next time I'm in Latin America to use on AT&T. If you're going to try and flash a ROM on your P-607 you're probably better off using the P-605M's ( http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SM-P605M ) since some of the bands your h/w supports are there. The SM-P605 radio you're about to flash doesn't support the 700MHz LTE band.

P-605



P-605M

 

TG2008

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P607T should be able to make calls... no?

I believe the hardware is identical to the P605M which can make phone calls.
I think the phone calling feature is just "missing" at the software level (but that's just my noob hunch.)


Anyway, my technical abilities are not at a level where I can create custom roms so I need some help:

I'd like to flash the COO 4.4.2 P605M firmware to my P607T.
naturally, I'd also need a way firmware to get back to the stock 4.4.2 P607T if things don't work.

I'm willing to try it on my device if someone can create the TAR.MD5 files needed :)


Thoughts?
Or... if someone wouldn't mind sending me a step-by-step on how to create the above? I have both stock firmwares now as well as ODIN and everything ready to go.

*I've tried researching TAR BALLS and creating files... but there no simple step by step instruction anywhere.


Cheers
 
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I believe the hardware is identical to the P605M which can make phone calls.
I think the phone calling feature is just "missing" at the software level (but that's just my noob hunch.)


Anyway, my technical abilities are not at a level where I can create custom roms so I need some help:

I'd like to flash the COO 4.4.2 P605M firmware to my P607T.
naturally, I'd also need a way firmware to get back to the stock 4.4.2 P607T if things don't work.

I'm willing to try it on my device if someone can create the TAR.MD5 files needed :)


Thoughts?
Or... if someone wouldn't mind sending me a step-by-step on how to create the above? I have both stock firmwares now as well as ODIN and everything ready to go.

*I've tried researching TAR BALLS and creating files... but there no simple step by step instruction anywhere.


Cheers
It's very easy. Use 'Total Commander' for windows by Christian Ghisler (Google it).....Ghisler. com. Download the software. On the website check FAQ+ support then on ' tutorials' for beginners check animated (step by step) tutorials for unpacking and packing files.

Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
 

TG2008

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It's very easy. Use 'Total Commander' for windows by Christian Ghisler (Google it).....Ghisler. com. Download the software. On the website check FAQ+ support then on ' tutorials' for beginners check animated (step by step) tutorials for unpacking and packing files.

Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
Excellent. Thank you.

I successfully tested using this by doing the following:

1. Renamed extension on stock E2 P607T firmware from 'TAR.MD5' to '.TAR' (so it can be opened by Total Commander)
2. Viewed, then deleted the 'aboot.mbn' file from the firmware.
3. Flashed the .TAR file (with missing .mbn) to my device.
4. Succeeded.


Now, when I get home today after work (very soon.) I plan on doing the same thing with the COO E2 P605M firmware... would you see a problem with this? Anything I should know before I go ahead and do it :)

Cheers~

Thanks again.
 

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I plan on doing the same thing with the COO E2 P605M firmware. Would you see a problem with this? Anything I should know before I go ahead and do it?
My only question is why that particular FW (i.e., is that the latest or most compatible)? I may also do this as well, but I need to make sure I don't lose the US LTE bands (namely 2, 4 and 7).

ETA: I'd also strip out the "Modem.bin" file, too, at least at first.
 
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TG2008

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My only question is why that particular FW (i.e., is that the latest or most compatible)? I may also do this as well, but I need to make sure I don't lose the US LTE bands (namely 2, 4 and 7).

ETA: I'd also strip out the "Modem.bin" file, too, at least at first.
P605MUBUCNE3_P605MUUBCNE3_P605MUBUCNE2_HOME.tar.md5

and

P607TUVUANE2_P607TTMBANE2_P607TUVUANE2_HOME.tar.md5

are the two files I am playing with.

The closest I got was I removed the SYSTEM.INI file from the 605 and put it inside the 607, replacing it... when I booted I got the 605 system and my device was seen as a P605M.

I was able to dial, but nothing happened. I could successfully send text messages however :)

Anytime I tried to flash the 605 to the 607 directly something would always fail. I remove the culprit file, then it would fail again on the next files... and so on.
 

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OK, so I went ahead and flashed the "Nordic Countries" SM-P605 FW "P605XXUCNE2/P605XXUCNE2" 4.4.2 ROM . Here's a screenshot of my "About" screen.

I had to remove all the "*.bin" and "*.mbn" files (I suspect it won't overwrite the ones already on the P607T unless you check "Phone Bootloader Update", but I wanted to try first changing the "*.img" files first).

I'd done a full TiBu as well as a TWRP backup of everything first (I was prepared to have had to wipe completely) but it upgraded just fine and everything was OK.

Here's a thread that's got FAR faster downloads than SamMobile (that was a waste of EUR5 :)) of the official full stock ROM if you want that as a reference (use the Google Drive link, I was getting 160MBit/sec downloads).

Here's a Google Drive link to my Odin-flashable .tar file that's got all the bootloader/modem files removed.

I don't know what this will do to your Knox (I'd rooted via flashing the TWRP recovery and therefore tripped my Knox 20mins after I'd gotten the tablet) but I suspect that since this is all Samsung-signed code you should be OK.

I see there's a "Phone" app now, but every time I tried to dial any number (even *611) it on either of my data-only SIMs (ATT/T-Mo) it immediately hung up. Normally even on data-only SIMs (like on my OG Note 10.1) you'll be able to complete a call and dial into an error recording, so I suspect that's 'cause we didn't update the "modem.bin" file, so the voice capability isn't in the phone modem anyway. If I feel adventurous, I'll try swapping that out but for now I'll see how this ROM performs first.

BUT- and this might be helpful- we have different options for Mobile Networks->Network mode: "LTE/WCDMA/GSM (auto connect)"/"WCDMA/GSM (auto connect)"/"WCDMA only"/"GSM only". There's another thread wondering if the T-Mo version gets access to 3G/2G networks and/or if T-Mo US has removed those, so it'll be interesting to see what effect this would have when on the road (I wonder if the network status icons change too).
 

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Nice. I too have come to the conclusion that a modem.bin from the P605M is definitely required if we want to have any success... unfortunately I don't know how to make a compatible ZIP install file:

<ID:0/003> Firmware update start..
<ID:0/003> modem.bin
<ID:0/003> NAND Write Start!!
<ID:0/003> Transmission Complete..
<ID:0/003> Now Writing.. Please wait about 2 minutes
<ID:0/003> Receive Response from boot-loader
<ID:0/003> FAIL! (Auth)
<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)

If someone can link one, or again point me to how to create one I will give it a shot :)
 

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Nice. I too have come to the conclusion that a modem.bin from the P605M is definitely required if we want to have any success
Apparently so. I'm going to do some research here on XDA and see if it's possible to interchange modem files at will.
<ID:0/003> Firmware update start..
<ID:0/003> modem.bin
...
<ID:0/003> Receive Response from boot-loader
<ID:0/003>
Was this with "Phone Bootloader Update" checked?

If someone can link one, or again point me to how to create one I will give it a shot :)
I'm 99% sure there's a way to do it with "dd" in adb shell, so let me look into that.
 

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Was this with "Phone Bootloader Update" checked?
I had extracted the modem.bin file from the 605.tar file, then attempted to flash it via ODIN 'Phone' option.
"Phone Bootloader Update" was not checked

The 'Phone Bootloader Update' cannot be checked unless the file being used has the .MD5 extension... when I use a .TAR only the option is greyed out (and cannot be "checked.")

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Trying now with the 607-.tar.md5 firmware and the 605-modem.bin. I've ticked-off the "Phone Bootloader Update" option.

The result:

<ID:0/005> Added!!
<OSM> Enter CS for MD5..
<OSM> Check MD5.. Do not unplug the cable..
<OSM> Please wait..
<OSM> P607TUVUANE2_P607TTMBANE2_P607TUVUANE2_HOME.tar.md5 is valid.
<OSM> Checking MD5 finished Sucessfully..
<OSM> Leave CS..
<ID:0/005> Odin v.3 engine (ID:5)..
<ID:0/005> File analysis..
<ID:0/005> SetupConnection..
<ID:0/005> Initialzation..
<ID:0/005> Get PIT for mapping..
<ID:0/005> Firmware update start..
<ID:0/005> SingleDownload.
<ID:0/005> aboot.mbn
<ID:0/005> NAND Write Start!!
<ID:0/005> sbl1.mbn
<ID:0/005> rpm.mbn
<ID:0/005> tz.mbn
<ID:0/005> sdi.mbn
<ID:0/005> NON-HLOS.bin
<ID:0/005> boot.img
<ID:0/005> recovery.img
<ID:0/005> system.img.ext4
<ID:0/005> cache.img.ext4
<ID:0/005> hidden.img.ext4
<ID:0/005> modem.bin
<ID:0/005> modem.bin
<ID:0/005> Transmission Complete..
<ID:0/005> Now Writing.. Please wait about 2 minutes
<ID:0/005> FAIL! (Auth)
<ID:0/005>
<ID:0/005> Receive Response from boot-loader
<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)

:(


SECURE CHECK FAIL : modem
 
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TG2008

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ADB goodness

Well, I spent the morning and part of the afternoon re-familiarizing myself ADB SHELL, SU, etc.

looking forward to any modem-changing methods that might pop up this weekend :)
 

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... so apparently without some sort of bootloader hack, this isn't going to happen.

I've spent a couple of hours on this, and the Knox-enabled bootloader in 4.3+ ROMs (that the T-Mobile P607T apparently got from day-one; my manufacturing date is May 30th(? I believe)) is protecting the "modem.bin" and "NON-HLOS.bin" flash partitions (at a minimum) and no matter what method I try and use (Odin, which fails as above), neither "dd" nor "flash_image" (with a custom recovery .ZIP I'd made) can write the flash. Although I can read back the flash immediately after flashing and have the MD5 check out (due to backing store of the device from the Linux block cache, most likely), it never actually gets written to the device.

Until we get a workaround for unlocking the flash device (it's kind of like an HTC "S-ON" condition) we won't be able to flash any modems.
 

TG2008

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Thanks

Thanks for confirming.
I realize the device is new (released early June'14)... do you think this is something we could put a bounty on :) ?

I am regretting my purchase currently... I should have ebay'd the P605-International (sigh)

Hopefully in time.

Thanks again.
 

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I know it is not the same thing as regular calling but groove ip lite does a pretty good job of voice over ip and its free and it even receives calls to.