[Q] Taking a leaf out of Apple's book

Super Chimp

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Interesting that the Sensation has a locked boot loader. It seems HTC are following Apple's view on this that they are going to be discouraging people from interfering with their software. I wonder if with time other Android manufacturers will follow the same course.
 

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Interesting that the Sensation has a locked boot loader. It seems HTC are following Apple's view on this that they are going to be discouraging people from interfering with their software. I wonder if with time other Android manufacturers will follow the same course.
I think you'll find, that it is the other way around. All Winmo devices, going ack to 2002, have had locked bootloaders that will only accept a Signed ROM. Someone will develop a Hard SPL type system and all will be happy :)
Oh, and moved to General as not Rom Dev ;)
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RellikZephyr

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Every other manufacturer already does this, htc was the best. Now they think they are selling enough phones to screw over the dev community, and it seems Sony Ericsson is taking up the mantle for the dev community.

I for one an very disappointed in htc for this. Was holding off for this phone, but may now go the atrix, both are locked so why not get better spec'd phone and hope its cracked. Or go the Xperia arc, at least I know the bootloader will be open

Very disappointed htc, just wanted you to know that

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RellikZephyr

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They have been locking their bootloaders, but not encrypting or signing them in any way, it seems now they are

Which makes me ask, Why? They have been doing so well with android devices why act like douches now

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HTC has always locked bootloaders. If the phone is popular enough they will break it. The question is is it encrypted. Which is most likely not. All we need most likely is an engineering build then wala the gates will be open. Every one thought the g2 was unrootable then one day permanent root.

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Super Chimp

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HTC has always locked bootloaders. If the phone is popular enough they will break it. The question is is it encrypted. Which is most likely not. All we need most likely is an engineering build then wala the gates will be open. Every one thought the g2 was unrootable then one day permanent root.

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I thought it was supposed to be the case that it is highly likely to be encrypted or so it appears to be at this stage. They seem to be making increasing efforts to make sure people are not able to tamper with the OS on it.
 
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stefan.buddle

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I beloved the reason they lock bootloaders is to stop the steady flow of people bricking their devices then calling in to get them replaced... seperating people who can read and follow simple directions from those who can't

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Most htc android phones have locked bootloader
Signed code is required since htc desire(i believe nexus one was the last phone that can write unsign code to recovery even with s-on).From desire to desire hd, it was through different exploits to enable s-off. All older exploits are gone since incredible s.
 

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Interesting that the Sensation has a locked boot loader. It seems HTC are following Apple's view on this that they are going to be discouraging people from interfering with their software. I wonder if with time other Android manufacturers will follow the same course.
Whats the deal with Motorola phones? Aren't they totally locked?
 

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Part of the problem is irresponsible idiots bricking their phones then sending them in for replacements. Furthermore, and probably the most significant reason: that irresponsible people at tethering too much.

I for one love XDA. However, as it becomes more popular and easier for the layman to hack his phone, the development community becomes a greater threat to manufacturers and wireless providers :(

LG G2X or Sony for me!
 

RellikZephyr

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Stop locking bootloader's and you will probably have less people bricking devices.

Or Sony Ericsson's new way of unlocking bootloader, send IMEI to them to unlock. At least that way they know who unlocked and can enforce warranty voiding fairly

We buy the device, we pay, its OUR device, if we want to hack it, then screw you (insert manufacturer) we can, stop telling us what we can and can't do with OUR property

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i was thinking of getting the sensation but i hate the thought of them dicking with the boot loader and all the sense bloat so i got a g2x and i could not be happier rooted the day it came out this phone is blazing fast patiently waiting for some cm7 love :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
 

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I hate how everyone is thinking a bootloader is the end of the road for the sensation. It will be hacked. No ifs ands or buts about it. The sensation is going to be an amazing phone with or without a boot loader. If you want to get a diff phone, that's your loss. But don't tell us your getting a different phone on the sensation's forum. No one cares about your lack of trust in the devs here. I'm getting one and you should too.

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Ghisy

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@sbryan12144, I wanna believe you dude but if you look at the Incredible S bootloader situation, it doesn't look too good for the Sensation. Unless HTC uses a different method and it's easier to crack.

Not being able to root is a deal breaker for me (I sold the IS because of that) and it's what makes Android better in my opinion! (custom ROMs, themes, etc...)