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[Q] very slooow wake up!
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Not a good idea for those using LectureNotes.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1 via Tapatalk.
I have the SM-P600 same problem
It worked for me. Frankly I feel Flipboard gives me a better experience. I wonder it is possible to just remove My Magazine or just turn it off.
Thanks
Doc
It worked for me. Frankly I feel Flipboard gives me a better experience. I wonder it is possible to just remove My Magazine or just turn it off.
Thanks
Doc
Mine used to take 2 - 3 seconds every time. The launcher I was using didn't make a difference. I made the following changes and it performs better, usually about 1 second to unlock now (I don't know which of these settings actually made it perform better):
1) Disabled S Voice & My Magazine "home button" access in their respective options
2) In Developer options, I set the Window animation & animator duration scale to OFF and Transition animation scale to 0.5x. The two settings that I set to OFF don't affect anything I care about, as I haven't noticed missing animations. The Transition animation setting affects all transitions (if you're using Nova launcher and it's set to "system" and not ICS or Jellybean) and 0.5x speeds it up nicely and cuts down on the visual choppy framerate that you might see when opening and exiting graphically-intensive apps.
3) I use a pattern to unlock, so in options -> device -> lock screen, I turned off the unlock effect because the watercolor smear effect was always a little laggy feeling anyway. Also, if you aren't a security-nazi, I would turn off "lock instantly with power key" and set "lock automatically" to something like 5 minutes, so if you turn the screen off or let it turn off then soon later need to wake it back up, it will wake up faster because it won't have to load the lock screen.
4) Switched from a live wallpaper to a static one, then switched back to a live one. I couldn't tell if this made it unlock faster, and I really like my live wallpaper. When I first switched it to static, I swear it felt faster, but now I can't tell a difference.
5) Power saving mode = OFF. Other toggles that I have off but shouldn't affect the screen-on time: reading mode, air view, smart stay, smart pause, smart scroll. I don't think these toggles or the wallpaper affect the wake up time.
For what it's worth, the "Force GPU rendering" does not seem to affect mine, and that option toggles itself off, I've noticed (after reboot perhaps?).
Also, I had the Asus TF701 and it was just as slow to unlock. It felt exactly the same as the Note, 2 to 3 seconds on average when the device was fully asleep. So I wouldn't associate this behavior with just Exynos chips. I would like to see the LTE S800 version of this tablet and see if it's faster than this.
I have a magnetic cover for my Note and it honestly isn't that different than when I open the magnetic cover on my iPad4. The iPad isn't instant-on either, though it might be a hair faster than the Note, with less variance - like, the iPad always takes 0.8 seconds (or whatever) and the Note takes between 0.7 and 2.4 seconds or something (very rough estimates).
Maybe I should make a video of me opening my Note next to my iPad and see what real difference there is.
UPDATE: I timed my Note just now and the screen turns on 0.62 seconds after pressing the power button. I put in my pattern to unlock it, then lock it again and then time the screen, 0.62 sec every time pretty much. If it had a massive game in the foreground and I turned it off, then tried to wake it up, I am guessing it would take longer than 0.62 seconds. To test this, I fired up FIFA14, entered a penalty shoot-out to get the graphics to load, then put the Note to sleep (and waited 30 sec for it to lock). The next screen-on time: 0.68 seconds. Pretty fast, let me try again... 0.64 seconds....hmm I thought it would affect it more. I then tested static vs live wallpaper - it makes no difference. There are times when it takes 0.95 seconds to unlock, but I can't figure out why. So in my testing just now, it's either around 0.62 seconds or 0.95 seconds, not sure what causes the variance.
UPDATE AGAIN: Now that I'm home from work, I did a little test. I timed it with a stop-watch, so there is a bit of human lag involved with each timing. I just did 5 wake-ups of the Note and iPad by using the cover and then 5 more by using the power button. The results are interesting.
I actually ditched several timings when I felt like I wasn't RIGHT ON, so these are pretty accurate results.
Time, in seconds. Note 2014 (build JSS15J.P600) vs iPad4 (iOS 7.0.3):
The Note takes longer to wake up with the cover than it does with the button. When waking it up with the cover, I noticed the capacitive buttons lit up early, like after 0.4 sec, then the screen wakes up at around 0.9 sec. When waking it up with the home button instead of the cover, the capacitive buttons light up immediately and the screen is on at 0.6 sec. This shows that there is a delay of about 0.3 seconds from when the cover is opened until when the Note registers that action (and lights up the capacitive buttons).
The iPad4 wakes up with the power button just as quickly as it does with the cover, which is around 0.55 seconds. There appears to be no delay with the cover detection. Apple designed that well, kind of like the response time of their touch screens (be it software design or hardware or both).
Both tablets took an extra 300ms or so when it was, like, more asleep. There might be a deeper sleep that they go in to as well, so next time they are sitting here for a long time without usage, I might time them again. Basically, I expect around 1.2 seconds for the Note to wake up when I open the case and 0.90 seconds for the iPad4. Or if they were recently awake, 300ms less than that. And when waking up the Note with the home or power button, it's really close to the iPad4, less than 100ms difference, but the iPad still has the somewhat trivial edge.
I'm interested to see other people's wake-up time for their Note. Please share!
UPDATE: When it's asleep longer than a few minutes (or whenever it enters deep-sleep), the first wake-up is still taking around 2 seconds, and if I don't do my pattern to unlock it but rather just the screen go black just for a second, it takes just under 2 seconds to wake up from a home-button press. Sub-sequent lock-unlocks are clocking in around 0.9 a couple times and then 0.6 sec every time, kind of like in my lame little chart above.
1) Disabled S Voice & My Magazine "home button" access in their respective options
2) In Developer options, I set the Window animation & animator duration scale to OFF and Transition animation scale to 0.5x. The two settings that I set to OFF don't affect anything I care about, as I haven't noticed missing animations. The Transition animation setting affects all transitions (if you're using Nova launcher and it's set to "system" and not ICS or Jellybean) and 0.5x speeds it up nicely and cuts down on the visual choppy framerate that you might see when opening and exiting graphically-intensive apps.
3) I use a pattern to unlock, so in options -> device -> lock screen, I turned off the unlock effect because the watercolor smear effect was always a little laggy feeling anyway. Also, if you aren't a security-nazi, I would turn off "lock instantly with power key" and set "lock automatically" to something like 5 minutes, so if you turn the screen off or let it turn off then soon later need to wake it back up, it will wake up faster because it won't have to load the lock screen.
4) Switched from a live wallpaper to a static one, then switched back to a live one. I couldn't tell if this made it unlock faster, and I really like my live wallpaper. When I first switched it to static, I swear it felt faster, but now I can't tell a difference.
5) Power saving mode = OFF. Other toggles that I have off but shouldn't affect the screen-on time: reading mode, air view, smart stay, smart pause, smart scroll. I don't think these toggles or the wallpaper affect the wake up time.
For what it's worth, the "Force GPU rendering" does not seem to affect mine, and that option toggles itself off, I've noticed (after reboot perhaps?).
Also, I had the Asus TF701 and it was just as slow to unlock. It felt exactly the same as the Note, 2 to 3 seconds on average when the device was fully asleep. So I wouldn't associate this behavior with just Exynos chips. I would like to see the LTE S800 version of this tablet and see if it's faster than this.
I have a magnetic cover for my Note and it honestly isn't that different than when I open the magnetic cover on my iPad4. The iPad isn't instant-on either, though it might be a hair faster than the Note, with less variance - like, the iPad always takes 0.8 seconds (or whatever) and the Note takes between 0.7 and 2.4 seconds or something (very rough estimates).
Maybe I should make a video of me opening my Note next to my iPad and see what real difference there is.
UPDATE: I timed my Note just now and the screen turns on 0.62 seconds after pressing the power button. I put in my pattern to unlock it, then lock it again and then time the screen, 0.62 sec every time pretty much. If it had a massive game in the foreground and I turned it off, then tried to wake it up, I am guessing it would take longer than 0.62 seconds. To test this, I fired up FIFA14, entered a penalty shoot-out to get the graphics to load, then put the Note to sleep (and waited 30 sec for it to lock). The next screen-on time: 0.68 seconds. Pretty fast, let me try again... 0.64 seconds....hmm I thought it would affect it more. I then tested static vs live wallpaper - it makes no difference. There are times when it takes 0.95 seconds to unlock, but I can't figure out why. So in my testing just now, it's either around 0.62 seconds or 0.95 seconds, not sure what causes the variance.
UPDATE AGAIN: Now that I'm home from work, I did a little test. I timed it with a stop-watch, so there is a bit of human lag involved with each timing. I just did 5 wake-ups of the Note and iPad by using the cover and then 5 more by using the power button. The results are interesting.
I actually ditched several timings when I felt like I wasn't RIGHT ON, so these are pretty accurate results.
Time, in seconds. Note 2014 (build JSS15J.P600) vs iPad4 (iOS 7.0.3):
The Note takes longer to wake up with the cover than it does with the button. When waking it up with the cover, I noticed the capacitive buttons lit up early, like after 0.4 sec, then the screen wakes up at around 0.9 sec. When waking it up with the home button instead of the cover, the capacitive buttons light up immediately and the screen is on at 0.6 sec. This shows that there is a delay of about 0.3 seconds from when the cover is opened until when the Note registers that action (and lights up the capacitive buttons).
The iPad4 wakes up with the power button just as quickly as it does with the cover, which is around 0.55 seconds. There appears to be no delay with the cover detection. Apple designed that well, kind of like the response time of their touch screens (be it software design or hardware or both).
Both tablets took an extra 300ms or so when it was, like, more asleep. There might be a deeper sleep that they go in to as well, so next time they are sitting here for a long time without usage, I might time them again. Basically, I expect around 1.2 seconds for the Note to wake up when I open the case and 0.90 seconds for the iPad4. Or if they were recently awake, 300ms less than that. And when waking up the Note with the home or power button, it's really close to the iPad4, less than 100ms difference, but the iPad still has the somewhat trivial edge.
I'm interested to see other people's wake-up time for their Note. Please share!
UPDATE: When it's asleep longer than a few minutes (or whenever it enters deep-sleep), the first wake-up is still taking around 2 seconds, and if I don't do my pattern to unlock it but rather just the screen go black just for a second, it takes just under 2 seconds to wake up from a home-button press. Sub-sequent lock-unlocks are clocking in around 0.9 a couple times and then 0.6 sec every time, kind of like in my lame little chart above.
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I'm trying this Wake Lock app set to "partial wake lock". It keeps the CPU active. I'm guessing the battery drain that it causes won't be worth the saved seconds of my life, but so far it appears to help wake-up time because it won't let it go into deep-sleep. My Note was sitting here for 10 minutes. It unlocked in 0.6 seconds with the home button, equaling its best time. I let it sit here again with the case closed for about 10 minutes. I opened the case and it clocked 0.9 sec, which equals its best time as well for the magnetic trigger. I'll monitor how much battery this thing eats up and report back.
I was also checking out this Wake Lock Detector app, pretty cool. It shows Google+ had 6804 wake-locks for a total of 3m 20s, lol. What the heck Google+, calm down buddy.
UPDATE: After 7 hours of idle time, my battery went from 89% to 80%. Not too bad.
I was also checking out this Wake Lock Detector app, pretty cool. It shows Google+ had 6804 wake-locks for a total of 3m 20s, lol. What the heck Google+, calm down buddy.
UPDATE: After 7 hours of idle time, my battery went from 89% to 80%. Not too bad.
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Everyone was saying the galaxy note 10.1 was really laggy to unlock and I am so glad you did this test. I'm used to iPads and this is my first ever android so I was hoping it wouldn't be as bad as everyone said. Sure - it's a bit slower but it's almost no difference to be honest. Won't be using a magnet case so I should be fine. Looking forward to getting the note and can't wait to do some dev stuff. Thanks so much Snake for doing this test. We need more people like you in this community.
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Thanks a bunch dude. Glad someone appreciates it and welcome to Android land.Everyone was saying the galaxy note 10.1 was really laggy to unlock and I am so glad you did this test. I'm used to iPads and this is my first ever android so I was hoping it wouldn't be as bad as everyone said. Sure - it's a bit slower but it's almost no difference to be honest. Won't be using a magnet case so I should be fine. Looking forward to getting the note and can't wait to do some dev stuff. Thanks so much Snake for doing this test. We need more people like you in this community.
Wake Lock keeps it fast and doesn't use a terrible amount of battery, around 1% per hour. It might be saving 0.5% an hour though by avoiding having to wake out of deep sleep and go back in from normal wake lock activity. I am going to keep using it and see how it pans out.
Any chance you can do a comparison of battery drain with and without wake lock?
My Note 10.1 is on 2nd firmware and I haven't messed around with anything but it's always been very fast wake up out of the box....my brother has an Ipad mini and LG Gpad so I would notice if the Note was a laggier experience but so far it's been very good indeed I hope it stays like this whenever the 3rd firmware gets released in the UK.
Ya, probably overnight is the best test for me since I use the tablet sporadically quite a bit during the day. I will get some stats but it's going to take a few days. I read a thread that I can't find now, but it was someone smarter than I saying how forcing the cpu to stay awake doesn't use much power since the cpu is very efficient. I charge my tablet and phone daily anyway so I will probably keep using WakeLock.
OK I have some results from 37 hours of use, almost all of which had WakeLock running (I installed WakeLock when I had 91% battery left after about 2 hours of on-and-off usage after a full charge, so 35 hours of WakeLock running on the PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK setting).
Basically, it uses just under 1% of battery life every hour. Two nights ago, the tablet was asleep for about 6 hours. It went from 29% to 24%. The night before that, it went from 84% to 80% in about 5 hours. Earlier today it went from 19% to 16% in 4 hours.
Battery remaining: 16%
37 hours since last charge.
35 hours of WakeLock running.
6h 45m of screen-on time, mostly at 10% or 20% brightness
50% of battery use was the SCREEN
35% of battery use was WakeLock, with "stay awake" showing 1d 10h and change
I haven't had enough time to test it with WakeLock turned off, but in the 4 hours since this morning it lost 2% of battery life. Last night, in about 6 hours, it lost 3% of battery life. So it is pretty close to 0.5% per hour without WakeLock. I froze Facebook & some Samsung apps to keep them from doing hundreds of wake-locks all day long. Stupid Facebook anyway...I have it set to never refresh and never notify, yet it still has 100 wake-locks an hour. Blech! If it wasn't for the convenient "login with facebook" crap built in to every app, I wouldn't even use the Facebook app. Well I have frozen it now, so I'm guessing I'll have to log in to wastebook manually via a browser now whenever and app requests a login.
Anyway, I still got around 2 days of use out of the tablet with WakeLock active. I am not that picky about the slower wake-up time though, so I am probably not going to use WakeLock. However, if the longer wake-up times bug you, give WakeLock a try. It really does work.
Is your wifi on?
Power savings mode on?
LTE or Wifi version?
I'm starting to have issues with battery as it is, haven't installed wakeLock. My note LTE seems to drain on average 1,5-2 % of power per hour, even when it's not being used.
Did a test , full charge and left it , wi fi on, but didn't touch it in the mean time , so screen off . after 14 hours it's down to 80 %. I.e 14 % of standby. Is that normal?
anyway, would be nice to have a comparison wakelock vs no wakelock
Power savings mode on?
LTE or Wifi version?
I'm starting to have issues with battery as it is, haven't installed wakeLock. My note LTE seems to drain on average 1,5-2 % of power per hour, even when it's not being used.
Did a test , full charge and left it , wi fi on, but didn't touch it in the mean time , so screen off . after 14 hours it's down to 80 %. I.e 14 % of standby. Is that normal?
anyway, would be nice to have a comparison wakelock vs no wakelock
Wifi on
Power Savings off
Wifi-only model
20% drop in 14 hours of standby is pretty bad. What process is using all that battery?
Android system, can't seem to get more info then that, been playing around with battery stat apps, but so far not much use. The standby time is killing me on average with ZERO use I only get 2-3 days of stand by ( tested over the weekend. Compared to my Ipad 3 that lasts a week or two without juice!
Hmm ya I don't know what Android System is doing that kills your battery so much. Sorry I'm no help.
I know what you mean about the iPad. My daughter hijacked my iPad4 and plays games on it. I often see it with 25% battery left with over 10 days on standby, 11 hours of screen-on. Gotta hand it to Apple with some stuff like battery and touchscreen response time. I just hate iOS too much to bear.
Hi guys,
The only way to know which app is using up juice even when the tablet is asleep, is to use an app that monitor wake locks (BetterBattteryStats) and see if the tablet wakes up in between sleep cycles. I know my S2, S3 and Note 2 phones had so much bloat that caused wake locks during sleep cycles. After rooting the phones, I was able to freeze apps that I don't need running (bloat) and the wake locks stopped and battery life and response time increased dramatically. Custom roms and kernels just made android even more efficient down to voltage usage levels. You can also use the stock battery stats app to see if your tablet is waking up, check to see if you are getting blue ticks/bars during the time your tablet was supposed to be asleep. You want it to be clear with no blue bars (less disturbance) when it is in sleep state.But the stock app doesn't tell you which app is causing it but BetterBatteryStat does. That's what I'm using.
Also in comparison to the iPad, android has a built-in media scanner app that scans the micro sdcard for any changes and new files at certain intervals. This can cause a battery drains too if it is waking up during the sleep cycle. But it's a good trade off since I prefer to have the extra storage and option to install/backup apps and files with it. No iTunes needed EVER. Some custom roms disables the media scanner app or have it start only on boot-up and some changed the intervals to be longer but not during sleep state.
Hope that helps. Hope there will be more custom roms coming soon. So far I'm enjoying the experience and the hardware is great.
Cheers.
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I am getting ready to install Lecture Notes, what does this setting do to it?
I literally JUST got my tablet. It updated itself once and then that was it. I tested youtube briefly, then continued to do something on my computer. Came back and when I turned on the power button my lock screen was gone. It was just blank. However, my screen kept timing out as well so I couldn't do anything to get past the lock screen. I managed to restart it by holding down the power button but I'm kind of already concerned about this tablet. I wanted to upgrade from the previous one but I'm not getting a great impression.
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