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GTCC

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I don't really have any stutter but I do have to wait for apps like gallery to open but it definitely has got a lot better with h. My phone is 855 running art.
 

Horcza

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Oh yes, it's not compatible as of now. ART really does make a difference in how the phone works though. It's actually the first time that I have seen how beneficial ART is. Question, do you have any widgets in your notification shade/etc? You could also try using the Nova launcher and see if that helps.

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Hello there

Follow the instructions below. Also, scroll down to Dynamic LCD refresh On/Off, and select disable. Then under Fixed FPS test, select 60FPS, reboot and enjoy!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/mod-root-rid-lag-g3-t2819365


Well I only have 3 persistent notifications apart from the stock stuff (no qmote, qslide and volume slider though), a placeholder kinda stuff for LMT and swipepad, and a widget-like notification from notisysinfo. Also, I already use Nova. I turned off notisysinfo and it didn't get faster. I might sacrifice all the Xposed customisation for the sake of total speed.

Slightly related question, I have V10g-HKG, out of the box it was V10a. Can I flash the kdz of the V10b-HKG or do I need to find the V10a?
 
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reuss32

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Ok guys stop liying.

Every people who is saying G3 has no lag is liying with stock launcher or nova launcher.
Just do the following let your phone for a while. Then switch on screen and go to settings, it's laggy, about 1, or 2 seconds the time to load settings.

For the hardware of this device it's not normal, you cannot accept this is mine LGG3 D855 D85510i stock firmware s801/2gb of ram rooted with nova launcher, run settings time to load 2 seconds.

I have an HTC ONE M8 with same hardware but frequency clock 2.3Ghz so less powerful than my LG G3 with 2.5Ghz and when i go settings its right way.

2 devices are running same applications then when HTC ONE was running android 4.4.2 it was exactely the same, now it is running 4.4.3 and to go settings it's very smoothy, without lag, right way.

LG G3, excuse the expression, is a piece of ****. I don't understand how is it posible, why they developp their own interface, and to run your device without lag, you have to install a new launcher, go to developper options and disable blalblablablabla, and even doing this the device doesn't run as smooth as it should. Device overhating, shutdowns itself to prevent danger, but why??? it never occurs on my M8 why???

LG hadn't optimize her interface since the device has been released, some minor update, which improve a little bit performance but not as it should, another thing i notice sometimes i launch multitasking to delete app's running in background and nothing appears, i have to run multitasking another time to see all apps running what's going on with this?

LG have to improve updates and release 4.4.3 now cause they are to slow upgrading their devices and i'm sure that G3 will not run 4.4.4 when Android L will be released i bet. It's not normal after 2 nexus build experience.

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Horcza

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Every people who is saying G3 has no lag is liying with stock launcher or nova launcher.
Just do the following let your phone for a while. Then switch on screen and go to settings, it's laggy, about 1, or 2 seconds the time to load settings.

For the hardware of this device it's not normal, you cannot accept this is mine LGG3 D855 D85510i stock firmware s801/2gb of ram rooted with nova launcher, run settings time to load 2 seconds.

I have an HTC ONE M8 with same hardware but frequency clock 2.3Ghz so less powerful than my LG G3 with 2.5Ghz and when i go settings its right way.

2 devices are running same applications then when HTC ONE was running android 4.4.2 it was exactely the same, now it is running 4.4.3 and to go settings it's very smoothy, without lag, right way.

LG G3, excuse the expression, is a piece of ****. I don't understand how is it posible, why they developp their own interface, and to run your device without lag, you have to install a new launcher, go to developper options and disable blalblablablabla, and even doing this the device doesn't run as smooth as it should. Device overhating, shutdowns itself to prevent danger, but why??? it never occurs on my M8 why???

LG hadn't optimize her interface since the device has been released, some minor update, which improve a little bit performance but not as it should, another thing i notice sometimes i launch multitasking to delete app's running in background and nothing appears, i have to run multitasking another time to see all apps running what's going on with this?

LG have to improve updates and release 4.4.3 now cause they are to slow upgrading their devices and i'm sure that G3 will not run 4.4.4 when Android L will be released i bet. It's not normal after 2 nexus build experience.

Bye

Takes less than half a second to load the settings menu (this includes the animation of it popping up), although I did reduce the animations to 0.5x. And anyway, as you and many others said, it's LG's fault for not having optimized the hardware well enough. We're all power users here, LG could have done a better job but does it really matter for us at XDA? Give it a couple weeks-months and we'll have far better custom ROMs, with better hardware to build on.
 
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reuss32

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Takes less than half a second to load the settings menu (this includes the animation of it popping up), although I did reduce the animations to 0.5x. And anyway, as you and many others said, it's LG's fault for not having optimized the hardware well enough. We're all power users here, LG could have done a better job but does it really matter for us at XDA? Give it a couple weeks-months and we'll have far better custom ROMs, with better hardware to build on.


Less than half second prove it! I'm not saying after you've already load setting 5 minutes before cause of course in this case settings are in cache, the same as you load widgets first time, it takes a little time but after load them another time it's fastier cause they are in cache. I've done what you've said, reduce the animations to 0.5x, then root my device change hidden settings to reduce lag, replace stock launcher with nova, but lag is still there, then when i load settings it's not fast as it should regarding the hardware specs and comparing to M8, i cannot say anything about other device with similar hardware cause i haven't tested them (Z2, S5, one+one etc...). But in same conditions and with a frequency clock smaller M8 is a bullet in comparison with G3.

I told you i put same apps to compare devices and M8 is fast as the first day i've got it, G3 with no apps is fast but settings or widgets load even without apps, show already lag, then after done all tricks to reduce lag and improve performance, it continue to be slow, then it has another kind of issues, for example i cannot use it when is in charge, cause it is overhating then temp goes to 100degres and device turn off with the typical message of device is to hot to prevent failure blablbabla, device poweroff, no matter if i change hidden settings or not, same behaviour.
I use M8 no overhating, no lag, no poweroff.

The other day i download asphalt 8 on both devices, till today i haven't got oportunity to play on G3 to compare with M8, because of overhating, it's a shame of device.

Now i understand your effort to develop a custom rom to make it smoother, but it will be late, in my opinion you cannot buy a device in original state is so laggy. Then i'm verry angry with all good advertising specialized press had done for this device, saying it's the best android of 2014, etc... This is partly because of all good advertising that i've bought this phone, then as i told you before when i was in the shop, i tested the device, screen is amazing and without apps, the device doesn't run bad settings load faster etc.... But now what i'm not apreciating on phone is sometimes widgets doesn't refresh correctly, probably due to high resolution, then as i told before comparing G3 and M8 with same applications, M8 is a bullet, you cannot compare. Antutu benchmark for 2 devices in default settings, G3 can hardly scores 29000 points using i stock firmware M8, scores 36000 points without problem.

LGG3 => S801=>2.5Ghz/2Gb of ram:confused:
M8 S801=>2.3Ghz/2Gb of ram:confused:

What is going wrong with this device?

I forgot something, since i've touch hidden settings to reduce lag, when i run antutu, G3 goes to 28% and reboot, with antutu4 or 5 same issue.

I'me very disapointed with this G3. And i have assume that i've lost money, cause i bought it 499€ new in shop, + quick circle about 35€ so about 535€, and i put a ads to sell it 500€ but no one called me, i change my ads today to put it in 480€ i'm upset.:mad:
 

Horcza

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Prove it how? I'm not gonna video it just for you. My phone was on my desk when I read your post, didn't thouch it for half an hour, even then I wasn't in the settings.

I understand you're upset but not everyone who says they don't experience lag is lying. On my previous phone (xperia s, my first rooted etc phone) I often came across ROMs which were working great for others, not as much for me and vice versa. It varies from phone to phone, maybe you could try to return your current G3 for a different model.

I don't know your experience regarding LG (I barely have any), but I read that this is pretty much the same thing which was going on with the G2 - the performance didn't live up to the expectations, but became perfectly fine with later official updates. Of course you're dissappointed because you didn't exactly get what you paid for, but I think it's a bit too early to give up on it.

As for the hidden settings, I didn't turn them off because I think they're on for a reason, and I don't have performance issues, so I left them intact.
 

prfraczek

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Thanks God iphone 6 is coming. Thanks LG for G3. This helped me a lot with my decision:) this phone is just another piece of sh... with android. I've had circa 6 android phones fir last 3 years. Really trying because need to be able to run some apps for my job and cannot do this on Ios but i'm going to get small windows notebook for job and iPhone 6. Unbelievable that i paid 500 pounds for this sh...it. I'm now on the beach with my girlfriend- she is using iphone 5 in front of me- typing emails using facebook making pictures but my new lovely G3 i cannot even unlock due to the fac... hot weather.??? Screen is dark, unresponsive- HSDPA network acess works smoothly but just on iPhone not on mine (roaming to complicated for android) Need to turn plain mode on off all the time. Dear LG i can guarantee you once I'm back in UK you will pay me full refund for this shi.....t. Btw don't try to tell me that this is due to launcher or similiar... I'm on Nova...
 

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I'm sorry to hear so many of you not enjoying the G3. I think the phones great. I'm on Verizon and still on original firmware, no OTAs at all and after removing bloat and using things like Greenify I'm very happy.

I agree though that LGs software needs improvement for sure though. I see the slight lag in say Settings but overall that's not enough for me too be upset about.

I've even played the resource demanding games that others play just to test it out and no problems there either.

- Tapatalked from the G3
 
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Every people who is saying G3 has no lag is liying with stock launcher or nova launcher.
Just do the following let your phone for a while. Then switch on screen and go to settings, it's laggy, about 1, or 2 seconds the time to load settings.

For the hardware of this device it's not normal, you cannot accept this is mine LGG3 D855 D85510i stock firmware s801/2gb of ram rooted with nova launcher, run settings time to load 2 seconds.

I have an HTC ONE M8 with same hardware but frequency clock 2.3Ghz so less powerful than my LG G3 with 2.5Ghz and when i go settings its right way.

2 devices are running same applications then when HTC ONE was running android 4.4.2 it was exactely the same, now it is running 4.4.3 and to go settings it's very smoothy, without lag, right way.

LG G3, excuse the expression, is a piece of ****. I don't understand how is it posible, why they developp their own interface, and to run your device without lag, you have to install a new launcher, go to developper options and disable blalblablablabla, and even doing this the device doesn't run as smooth as it should. Device overhating, shutdowns itself to prevent danger, but why??? it never occurs on my M8 why???

LG hadn't optimize her interface since the device has been released, some minor update, which improve a little bit performance but not as it should, another thing i notice sometimes i launch multitasking to delete app's running in background and nothing appears, i have to run multitasking another time to see all apps running what's going on with this?

LG have to improve updates and release 4.4.3 now cause they are to slow upgrading their devices and i'm sure that G3 will not run 4.4.4 when Android L will be released i bet. It's not normal after 2 nexus build experience.

Bye

I just hate stupid post like this! Listen, we are not retards, we know what lag is. Just because some are having issues, that does not mean ALL of us are! I have never seen a phone released where people did not complain about lag..it's all about the software and apps running. And my HTC One M8 also experienced lag when scrolling or going through settings, but not all the time. Wait for the updates to fix the current lag issues some of us are having..some people act like stuttering on Android devices is something new. Geez.
 
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Have to disagree,I see no improvement with 10j. Its very obvious the 801 is maxed out.

I'm on 10i and I don't get any lag. How do you know the 801 is maxed out? Are you using a CPU monitor?

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Less than half second prove it! I'm not saying after you've already load setting 5 minutes before cause of course in this case settings are in cache, the same as you load widgets first time, it takes a little time but after load them another time it's fastier cause they are in cache. I've done what you've said, reduce the animations to 0.5x, then root my device change hidden settings to reduce lag, replace stock launcher with nova, but lag is still there, then when i load settings it's not fast as it should regarding the hardware specs and comparing to M8, i cannot say anything about other device with similar hardware cause i haven't tested them (Z2, S5, one+one etc...). But in same conditions and with a frequency clock smaller M8 is a bullet in comparison with G3.

I told you i put same apps to compare devices and M8 is fast as the first day i've got it, G3 with no apps is fast but settings or widgets load even without apps, show already lag, then after done all tricks to reduce lag and improve performance, it continue to be slow, then it has another kind of issues, for example i cannot use it when is in charge, cause it is overhating then temp goes to 100degres and device turn off with the typical message of device is to hot to prevent failure blablbabla, device poweroff, no matter if i change hidden settings or not, same behaviour.
I use M8 no overhating, no lag, no poweroff.

The other day i download asphalt 8 on both devices, till today i haven't got oportunity to play on G3 to compare with M8, because of overhating, it's a shame of device.

Now i understand your effort to develop a custom rom to make it smoother, but it will be late, in my opinion you cannot buy a device in original state is so laggy. Then i'm verry angry with all good advertising specialized press had done for this device, saying it's the best android of 2014, etc... This is partly because of all good advertising that i've bought this phone, then as i told you before when i was in the shop, i tested the device, screen is amazing and without apps, the device doesn't run bad settings load faster etc.... But now what i'm not apreciating on phone is sometimes widgets doesn't refresh correctly, probably due to high resolution, then as i told before comparing G3 and M8 with same applications, M8 is a bullet, you cannot compare. Antutu benchmark for 2 devices in default settings, G3 can hardly scores 29000 points using i stock firmware M8, scores 36000 points without problem.

LGG3 => S801=>2.5Ghz/2Gb of ram:confused:
M8 S801=>2.3Ghz/2Gb of ram:confused:

What is going wrong with this device?

I forgot something, since i've touch hidden settings to reduce lag, when i run antutu, G3 goes to 28% and reboot, with antutu4 or 5 same issue.

I'me very disapointed with this G3. And i have assume that i've lost money, cause i bought it 499€ new in shop, + quick circle about 35€ so about 535€, and i put a ads to sell it 500€ but no one called me, i change my ads today to put it in 480€ i'm upset.:mad:

I have never had the lag/issues you are describing, even on the earlier firmwares. I've not had to change the hidden settings either, and, to be perfectly honest, do you really expect the device to be stable if you mess with them?
My advice is to try a few different launchers. That might give you a clue to whether software bugs are the problem. It might also be worth running a CPU montoring app to see if you are getting lag but CPU activity is low.
 
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reuss32

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I just hate stupid post like this! Listen, we are not retards, we know what lag is. Just because some are having issues, that does not mean ALL of us are! I have never seen a phone released where people did not complain about lag..it's all about the software and apps running. And my HTC One M8 also experienced lag when scrolling or going through settings, but not all the time. Wait for the updates to fix the current lag issues some of us are having..some people act like stuttering on Android devices is something new. Geez.

Sorry my friend but this the truth. Just check posts around you about complaining of LG g3 lag according to me and about all we are complaining about it we have spent money to have the best now not in 4 or 5 months when other devices will be released with much better hardware. By the way I haven't looking for M8 lag cause I haven't on mine. Another thing even in specialised press they didn't mentioned nothing about lag on M8, so if you're happy with your laggie g3, enjoy it, and let me express my opinion we are free to express ourselves.

Bye bye
 

MRCANNADY

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I'm on 10i and I don't get any lag. How do you know the 801 is maxed out? Are you using a CPU monitor?

Everyone is an expert on GPU/CPUs now I see. Again, the 801 can handle the resolution on the phone, it's just the way that the current software has been optimized that's the main issue. It's designed to adjust speed/etc to preserve battery. Wait until the phone has been updated before making these conclusions, or contact the chip maker and confirm your theories first please. :good:
 
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Everyone is an expert on GPU/CPUs now I see. Again, the 801 can handle the resolution on the phone, it's just the way that the current software has been optimized that's the main issue. It's designed to adjust speed/etc to preserve battery. Wait until the phone has been updated before making these conclusions, or contact the chip maker and confirm your theories first please. :good:

Its for nothing to do with optimized software. You're fooling yourself because you've wasted $700 underpowered phone. You can easily do frame rate tests on games which show a much lower frame rate on the 801 G3 compared to the M8,Z2 or 805 G5.

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Everyone is an expert on GPU/CPUs now I see. Again, the 801 can handle the resolution on the phone, it's just the way that the current software has been optimized that's the main issue. It's designed to adjust speed/etc to preserve battery. Wait until the phone has been updated before making these conclusions, or contact the chip maker and confirm your theories first please. :good:

Its for nothing to do with optimized software. You're fooling yourself because you've wasted $700 underpowered phone. You can easily do frame rate tests on games which show a much lower frame rate on the 801 G3 compared to the M8,Z2 or 805 G5.

Cogratualations to LG on their "adaptive frame rate" marketing nonsense as its obviously worked.
 

prfraczek

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Wait for what? I bought the best phone on the market for £500 and this 'smartphone' must do the smartphone job. Very simple. Got car and this car must drive when new :) this is one of 100 posts about lags etc. so people do not try to tell us that this phone is great because is shi%tttttt. Wait for optimization? Upgrades? I'm buying new phone. Can LG wait for my money until I got them? Then I can pay for mobile? And always excuse is will be better but is NOT. Guys this hardware can do absolutely everything with no Lags. I could do much more complicated things 5 years ago on PC with 10% of possibilities of this phone. BTW i had same story with nexus5 galaxy s2 s3 s4 lg g2 htc and never ending story with androids TA
 

MRCANNADY

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Simply don't feed the trolls/n00bs... Close thread, enjoy the G3, settled :good:

Seriously! Even though their are legitimate complaints about the phone (or any other newly released phone in general) you always find those that take things up to the ridiculous level, and/or create multiple post with nothing but complaints. When people come on here and try to tell us that all of our phones are not working correctly, and that EVERY one of these phones have issues, I just laugh. You never know when those Apple fanboys like to start flaming something based on things that they have read... :)
 
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Its for nothing to do with optimized software. You're fooling yourself because you've wasted $700 underpowered phone. You can easily do frame rate tests on games which show a much lower frame rate on the 801 G3 compared to the M8,Z2 or 805 G5.

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Its for nothing to do with optimized software. You're fooling yourself because you've wasted $700 underpowered phone. You can easily do frame rate tests on games which show a much lower frame rate on the 801 G3 compared to the M8,Z2 or 805 G5.

Cogratualations to LG on their "adaptive frame rate" marketing nonsense as its obviously worked.

I guess you arent aware that 3D games and 2D UI elements are not powered in the same way. 2D even at QHD is effortless for most GPUs, 3D games are completely different and require a completely different set of calculations and physics.

The limitation on 2D is bandwidth, getting the frames out fast enough, the calculations needed to render the frames are not a problem at all. The GPU has more than enough bandwidth for QHD 2D. How else do you think the GPU manages to handle 4K video recording? In that situation it also has to encode the video as well as render the frames for the screen. Its not problem at all.
 

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    I have zero lag with my processor downclocked to 1.5ghz and 200 mhz GPU

    So all this QHD resolution causing lag is complete BS and trolling.

    Sent from my LG Gangster 3
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    I've seen it happen on old phones of mine that tried to render 1080 but struggled. You get the stutter effect and frame rate dropping because it can't draw it quickly enough. This is a good comparison video too of the more powerful 805 chip Vs the 801 chip

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YCpcEtokiJ0

    Clearly thats not the case since I have absolutely zero lag. Its a fact that the GPU isnt stressed in 2D by the QHD, it doesnt even throttle past 330mhz. The 801 is rated for 4K, and only then limited by bandwidth rather than raw power.

    Its all about the LG software. It will improve.
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    Simply don't feed the trolls/n00bs... Close thread, enjoy the G3, settled :good:
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    I agree that G3 performance is bad. Its because the system in chip had to draw all the extra pixels of a QHD display. It causes lag and slowness everywhere.

    The QHD display needs a more powerful system on chip.

    Its got nothing to do with the QHD screen. The processor is more than capable of rendering QHD in 2D, even 4K wouldnt be a problem.

    The problem is LG have very badly optimised the software. The latest revisions are much much faster, Im using v10J and everything is instant. We went through the same problems with the G2.
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    Have to disagree,I see no improvement with 10j. Its very obvious the 801 is maxed out.

    This chip is not maxed out at all, let's not spread false information please. LG needs to optimize the software for the phone to run correctly. I have enabled 60fps on my phone, and the thing flies now. No lag while scrolling, or while gamingto speak of. The chip has no problems with the resolution.

    The thing with Iphone is the way it's set up, Android has more things working in the background eating up ram/etc, that's why optimization is so important. Put an 801 chip into the Iphone, which has MUCH less things running in the background by default, and I guarantee you that the phone will run much faster than with the A7 chip.

    Also, rogue apps that are not optimized correctly can also cause serious lag. I recently had the HTC One M8, which ran beautifully, until I downloaded a rogue app that was eating up ram when not in use, and my phone was lagging like crazy.

    So it's not really fair to compare android with ios's speed, because all Iphone devices work the same way, and use the same chip. While on Android, there are many factors and apps that can interfere with the OS. Any true Android fan should know how these things work..you can customize the phone to your liking, but you also have to deal with rogue apps and ram issues sometimes.