Qual OTA Update FaiLs, TWRP > Bootloader > Start Now Required Each Boot

[travistyse]

Same thing as the OP of this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/bootloop-to-twrp-ota-update-t3667456

Late last night I saw that there was an update available and, given that I've only rooted my phone, security updates are important, and it's a mere ~15 minutes download + install time tops I went for it.

I absolutely cannot seem to get the update to install via the OTA channel - it downloads just fine but when I attempt to install it it boots into TWRP and once there the only way to leave is via Bootloader > Start (System just reboots into TWRP) and upon reaching Android I'm told that the update was unsuccessful.

I now have two problems:

1. I don't like having notifications that I can't do anything about. Assuming that this OTA is going to nag me for eternity that's definitely going to become an annoyance - but I'd prefer the update vs blocking the notification (again, IF it nags)

2. Every time I restart my phone (or it crashes) I now have to deal with TWRP. It's not a major annoyance. It's at most 8 extra seconds added to my boot time and I don't restart my phone more than 3 times a week. But it IS butt-ache inducing.

Edit: Forgot to add that I came across this and downloaded it https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e4/how-to/boost-mobile-ota-t3763851 My E4 is a 1766 and is also from Boost Mobile (Sprint) so I imagine they're the same update. Point is, can I install this with TWRP successfully or would that do nothing / make things worse?

 

[madbat99]

Same thing as the OP of this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/bootloop-to-twrp-ota-update-t3667456

Late last night I saw that there was an update available and, given that I've only rooted my phone, security updates are important, and it's a mere ~15 minutes download + install time tops I went for it.

I absolutely cannot seem to get the update to install via the OTA channel - it downloads just fine but when I attempt to install it it boots into TWRP and once there the only way to leave is via Bootloader > Start (System just reboots into TWRP) and upon reaching Android I'm told that the update was unsuccessful.

I now have two problems:

1. I don't like having notifications that I can't do anything about. Assuming that this OTA is going to nag me for eternity that's definitely going to become an annoyance - but I'd prefer the update vs blocking the notification (again, IF it nags)

2. Every time I restart my phone (or it crashes) I now have to deal with TWRP. It's not a major annoyance. It's at most 8 extra seconds added to my boot time and I don't restart my phone more than 3 times a week. But it IS butt-ache inducing.

Edit: Forgot to add that I came across this and downloaded it https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e4/how-to/boost-mobile-ota-t3763851 My E4 is a 1766 and is also from Boost Mobile (Sprint) so I imagine they're the same update. Point is, can I install this with TWRP successfully or would that do nothing / make things worse?

You cannot install it with twrp on a rooted device. You would have to modify the updater script in it for that. And remove a bunch of assert props. And hope your system isn't modified too much.
So no, you can't. You have to flash back to stock, (the version you're on now) then install it. Or just sit tight, there is someone working on a partition updater, and a twrp flashable rom with the update included.
Once you root and install twrp, ota updates ain't gonna happen. How do you not know this

If you need a solution for the recovery Loop issue you're going to have to give me a minute to find the link it can be fixed.
It's a problem if TWRP when you format data not wiping something properly

this should help a recovery loop. Only if your issue is, every reboot it goes right to twrp. Then you have to reboot bootloader and select start. Easy fix.

 

[travistyse]

You cannot install it with twrp on a rooted device. You would have to modify the updater script in it for that. And remove a bunch of assert props. And hope your system isn't modified too much.
So no, you can't. You have to flash back to stock, (the version you're on now) then install it. Or just sit tight, there is someone working on a partition updater, and a twrp flashable rom with the update included.
Once you root and install twrp, ota updates ain't gonna happen. How do you not know this

If you need a solution for the recovery Loop issue you're going to have to give me a minute to find the link it can be fixed.
It's a problem if TWRP when you format data not wiping something properly

this should help a recovery loop. Only if your issue is, every reboot it goes right to twrp. Then you have to reboot bootloader and select start. Easy fix.

Thank you! And, frankly, because I never stick to stock. I always flash Cyanogenmod or LineageOS pretty much first thing when I get a phone. This time there wasn't a build available that seemed stable enough (Late November) but I still needed Root. I'm used to getting updates from both LOS and CM OTA so I figured the only thing preventing official OTA updates from working was that the build was entirely different. My assumption in this case was that I was still running the stock ROM that came with the device AND they were offering an OTA via notification so the phone must be eligible to receive it. >-> My bad.

 

[madbat99]

Thank you! And, frankly, because I never stick to stock. I always flash Cyanogenmod or LineageOS pretty much first thing when I get a phone. This time there wasn't a build available that seemed stable enough (Late November) but I still needed Root. I'm used to getting updates from both LOS and CM OTA so I figured the only thing preventing official OTA updates from working was that the build was entirely different. My assumption in this case was that I was still running the stock ROM that came with the device AND they were offering an OTA via notification so the phone must be eligible to receive it. >-> My bad.

The ota has a bunch of checks in it. If anything fails the checks, ota fails. When you root, there are system changes, boot.img changes, etc. All of which cause the ota to fail. Of course lineage and cm didn't have such strict checks in their update zips because they expect us to root and modify system. Manufacturers do not.