[Question] Kingo Root 1.4.2

[AlexanderJohn]

So, I periodically try different Root methods on this sm-n900v and tonight I tried Kingo Root (PC), and one time when it rebooted it showed the custom unlocked icon. Is this normal? I figure I'm going to try and repeat what I did until it shows that to me again...
Feedback is always appreciated!

 

[nanosp]

When you say custom unlocked icon do you mean when the Galaxy screen comes on? I see that, but I used Towelroot instead of Kingo

 

[AlexanderJohn]

I'm on 5.0 OB6.

 

[nanosp]

Interesting. I don't think it's supposed to work like that

 

[donc113]

I'm on 5.0 OB6.

You can try forever...but so far...there is NO way to root OB6

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[AlexanderJohn]

I know, but the custom unlock screen came up and I'm curious as to why. Sorry I didn't clarify that.

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[donc113]

I know, but the custom unlock screen came up and I'm curious as to why. Sorry I didn't clarify that.

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All that means is you attempted to load a non standard system.....it obviously didn't mean it worked. It's your time, your effort, your phone...have at it.

But people who know a whole lot more about rooting and the issues involved than you or I have been trying for quite a while and have come up empty handed.



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[AlexanderJohn]

Useful and helpful

All that means is you attempted to load a non standard system.....

neither useful or helpful

it obviously didn't mean it worked. It's your time, your effort, your phone...have at it.

But people who know a whole lot more about rooting and the issues involved than you or I have been trying for quite a while and have come up empty handed.



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[kstoianov]

hey guys, i dont know much about root script but i got an idea. Cant we somehow brick out bootloiader partition so we can flash the old firmware and than root? tell me what you think.

 

[thunderblaster88]

hey guys, i dont know much about root script but i got an idea. Cant we somehow brick out bootloiader partition so we can flash the old firmware and than root? tell me what you think.

I've actually thought this same thing, maybe wipe the phone out 100% so it would be as if nothing was there then find a write program to put the older bootloader on their or maybe in that case could get into the bootloader and unlock it and flash the phone as new...hmm, I've had that thought many time but I think it would just completely mess the phone up beyond Bootable or working

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[kstoianov]

I've actually thought this same thing, maybe wipe the phone out 100% so it would be as if nothing was there then find a write program to put the older bootloader on their or maybe in that case could get into the bootloader and unlock it and flash the phone as new...hmm, I've had that thought many time but I think it would just completely mess the phone up beyond Bootable or working

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I am ready to try but i need tool to wipe my aboot.img and a software to flash via qualcomm mode and old aboot.img

 

[thunderblaster88]

I'd be willing to do this stuff to if we can find the right tools

 

[mirrin]

The thing about doing a full 100% wipe to reload say the inital factory firmware is what is called a jtag is needed it is a serial connection to the flash chips that is used in the factory to do the inital programming. The problem is this connection is cut off or more often not made accessible to assembled units.

there was with previous samsung phones a usb jtag kicking dongle that could kick a hard bricked phone into a sorta download mode.

this is not present on the note 3 and the note 3 has e fuses that permanently blow preventing some of these things. Additionally there is a built in check to prevent the loading of bootloaders that are unsigned or older than the current bootloader.

so in the end the only thing messing with wiping the boot loader is going to acomplish is hard or soft bricks...

 

[kstoianov]

it could be off topic but how they sign their updates? cant we fool the factory recovery?

 

[thunderblaster88]

The thing about doing a full 100% wipe to reload say the inital factory firmware is what is called a jtag is needed it is a serial connection to the flash chips that is used in the factory to do the inital programming. The problem is this connection is cut off or more often not made accessible to assembled units.

there was with previous samsung phones a usb jtag kicking dongle that could kick a hard bricked phone into a sorta download mode.

this is not present on the note 3 and the note 3 has e fuses that permanently blow preventing some of these things. Additionally there is a built in check to prevent the loading of bootloaders that are unsigned or older than the current bootloader.

so in the end the only thing messing with wiping the boot loader is going to acomplish is hard or soft bricks...

That's kinda what I figured

 

[mirrin]

it could be off topic but how they sign their updates? cant we fool the factory recovery?

Encrypted I know you guys are grasping as straws in desperate hope of the phone not being as locked down as previously thought. But if it were such a simple task of getting the dev device boot loader and fooling the system into thinking it is a legit update we would have an open phone.

the things with the nc2 and nc4 bootloaders was they for some reason did not use the check correctly and left it open for us.