Question: Root and Bootloader

Gnubaver

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I called Sony Support and asked them exactly what breaks my warranty, and to my suprise they told me that both rooting and/or unlocking bootloader will nullify my warranty.

I thought that rooting without touching the bootloader meant that the warranty was intact.
 
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jancarlos1597

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I called Sony Support and asked them exactly what breaks my warranty, and to my suprise they told me that both rooting and/or unlocking bootloader will nullify my warranty.

I thought that rooting without touching the bootloader meant that the warranty was intact.
You loose the warranty once you modify the system, it's doesn't matter if bootloader is unlocked or nah, but you can root and if you want to go back to warranty, only flash you carrier firmware, I did that, I don't know how's you carrier working.

PD: sorry for my bad English.

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olokos

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I can't exactly tell about the bootloader, but you can root your phone without any worries about warranty. Just make sure that after you return it for warranty that you flash an FTF, so the phone would be exactly like stock. That includes wiping all partitions when flashing an FTF in flashtool.

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blueether

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Ask your self this, why should they offer you a warranty if you screw with their software/firmware?

"Hey look jonny, I can overclock my Z1 to 2.8 GHz and over volt the GPU... Hey jonny, my phone wont boot any more, any idea what's wrong with it?"

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blueether

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Magnussen moss act is why

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"protect consumers from deceptive warranty practices.*"
How does that apply to a user being a f-wit. Does apple replace your ifone if you drop it in the crapper while taking a nude selfie?

don't even bother with a reply as you must be from the US where it is ok to sue your parents for not buying you the latest iBone or not paying for you to go to varsity

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"protect consumers from deceptive warranty practices.*"
How does that apply to a user being a f-wit. Does apple replace your ifone if you drop it in the crapper while taking a nude selfie?

don't even bother with a reply as you must be from the US where it is ok to sue your parents for not buying you the latest iBone or not paying for you to go to varsity

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Calm down bro don't take it seriously and you are correct that Sony is providing good software/hardware why should we mess with it I want to add those port apps from z2 but it needs root so I'm not installing it anyway
I'll wait for official kitkat :D
 

scoobdude

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It does not protect the consumer from abuse claims. But rather instances of hardware failure not being covered because of an installed app. Or the nv flash going bad because of root.

In easier terms let's use a car as an example. If your manufacture says you have to change your oil at said interval they cannot deny your claim to a bad wheel bearing or your compressor going out etc.

Another example is with computers. When I used to support them for one of the big manufacturers we would not support them if they installed any other os. But once they reinstalled them we would.

So while rooting and unlocked bootloaders CAN damage things you can change the burden of proof and you still have rights.

So yes I am from America, and I modify almost everything. Hardly use warranties. But am by no means stupid. So please keep your assumptions out of this discussion ;)

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craoul

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It does not protect the consumer from abuse claims. But rather instances of hardware failure not being covered because of an installed app. Or the nv flash going bad because of root.

In easier terms let's use a car as an example. If your manufacture says you have to change your oil at said interval they cannot deny your claim to a bad wheel bearing or your compressor going out etc.

Another example is with computers. When I used to support them for one of the big manufacturers we would not support them if they installed any other os. But once they reinstalled them we would.

So while rooting and unlocked bootloaders CAN damage things you can change the burden of proof and you still have rights.

So yes I am from America, and I modify almost everything. Hardly use warranties. But am by no means stupid. So please keep your assumptions out of this discussion ;)

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Issue is that after locking an flashing stock, we should still have DRM licences. It is stupid to loose them by unlocking bootloader. We bought the software with the phone. I do not loose my microsoft licence if I install linux and then I put windows back.
 

scoobdude

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And think of how much money it would save them if they put an easy way to save/recovery them out. Even if it required a call or email with verification etc.

But most companies declare you do not buy software but rather license the user of it...stupid IMHO as open source usually had better results

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Gnubaver

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Issue is that after locking an flashing stock, we should still have DRM licences. It is stupid to loose them by unlocking bootloader. We bought the software with the phone. I do not loose my microsoft licence if I install linux and then I put windows back.
From this day on, promise me that you will start using "lose" instead of "loose"

loose
adjective, loos·er, loos·est.
1. free or released from fastening or attachment: a loose end.
2. free from anything that binds or restrains; unfettered: loose cats prowling around in alleyways at night.
3. uncombined, as a chemical element.
4. not bound together: to wear one's hair loose.
5. not put up in a package or other container: loose mushrooms.
 

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Hello guys!
If I root my phone without unlocking the bootloader, what limitations do I have to accept?
And, it I unlock the bootloader, how can I first of all backup my phone in order to return to stock anytime I need to? Will flashing with flashtool do the trick, with an unlocked bootloader?
 

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Will hijack this post for a question, when i use flashtool to unlock boot loader it says hold menu button but where is the menu button because i had to power off. Cant figure that one out.