Question: Rooted Concept?

Salaminator

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Hey guys,
I tried out the Android Concept MM when it first came out and i was a huge fan and insanely satisfied due to it's stock-like android experience, however the only thing keeping me away from using it is lack of root and xposed, however i was wondering can i just make a pre-rooted ftf with the ftf of the concept with recroot 4? like i would with a normal Marshmallow ftf or am i completely wrong?
I would appreciate the help thanks!
 

Nojus33

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Concept ROM uses dm-verify, so it's unrootable on locked bootloader. However I've managed to root it on unlocked bootloader before somehow. I'll try to explain as best as I can:
1. Download and flash concept FTF http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/...arshmallow-t3229030/post66825447#post66825447 (this is latest one I could find)
2. OTA update to the latest version if you want
3. Download Systemless SuperSU zip and place it on SD card https://download.chainfire.eu/921/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.65-20151226141550.zip
4. Flash recovery via fastboot (it needs unlocked bootloader) (for recovery I used this one) : http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/development/z3-twrp-2-8-7-0-d6603-t3273996
5. Don't leave fastboot mode! Navigate with volume keys to "recovery mode" and click power button to enter it.
6. Flash SuperSu you downloaded earlier and then reboot.
7. Done, enjoy your rooted Concept. :)
 
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Salaminator

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Concept ROM uses dm-verify, so it's unrootable on locked bootloader. However I've managed to root it on unlocked bootloader before somehow. I'll try to explain as best as I can:
1. Download and flash concept FTF http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/...arshmallow-t3229030/post66825447#post66825447 (this is latest one I could find)
2. OTA update to the latest version if you want
3. Download Systemless SuperSU zip and place it on SD card https://download.chainfire.eu/921/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.65-20151226141550.zip
4. Flash recovery via fastboot (it needs unlocked bootloader) (for recovery I used this one) : http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/development/z3-twrp-2-8-7-0-d6603-t3273996
5. Don't leave fastboot mode! Navigate with volume keys to "recovery mode" and click power button to enter it.
6. Flash SuperSu you downloaded earlier and then reboot.
7. Done, enjoy your rooted Concept. :)
Thanks but damn that sucks, i don't really wanna' lose DRM keys plus i still have 1 year of warranty left.
Also, (http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/development/rom-zyxxos-5-1-1-v1-0-pure-stable-fast-t3229169) ZyxxOS requires a unlocked bootloader, however is there anyway i can replace the boot.img with one that's utilized on a locked bootloader ROM or will that not work
 
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Nojus33

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Thanks but damn that sucks, i don't really wanna' lose DRM keys plus i still have 1 year of warranty left.
Also, (http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/development/rom-zyxxos-5-1-1-v1-0-pure-stable-fast-t3229169) ZyxxOS requires a unlocked bootloader, however is there anyway i can replace the boot.img with one that's utilized on a locked bootloader ROM or will that not work
Well, ZyxxOS has Sony's Concept based kernel. The developer itself at first thought it will work on locked bootloader, but it didn't. You could try to flash original Concept .2099 kernel, but I don't think it will work.
As for DRM, you can easily backup them before unlocking, but it's up to you.
 

Salaminator

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Well, ZyxxOS has Sony's Concept based kernel. The developer itself at first thought it will work on locked bootloader, but it didn't. You could try to flash original Concept .2099 kernel, but I don't think it will work.
As for DRM, you can easily backup them before unlocking, but it's up to you.
I'm confused with the effect DRM has but is there anyway to avoid them? Like if i backup do i just restore them after unlocking my bootloader?

Ideally, i wanted to run a AOSP like ROM and i hoped to remove all Sony stuff etc from Concept, However i'm just reluctant to unlocking my bootloader

This is probably the stupidest idea ever, I have close to no knowledge however what happens if i put Stock Sony 6.0.1 Kernel which has already obtained recovery without unlocking bootloader and flash SuperSU via that?
Alternatively, is there anyway to convert Our current Stock 6.0.1 into True Stock Android
 
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Nojus33

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I'm confused with the effect DRM has but is there anyway to avoid them? Like if i backup do i just restore them after unlocking my bootloader?

Ideally, i wanted to run a AOSP like ROM and i hoped to remove all Sony stuff etc from Concept, However i'm just reluctant to unlocking my bootloader

This is probably the stupidest idea ever, I have close to no knowledge however what happens if i put Stock Sony 6.0.1 Kernel which has already obtained recovery without unlocking bootloader and flash SuperSU via that?
Alternatively, is there anyway to convert Our current Stock 6.0.1 into True Stock Android
Maybe, but this is beyond my knowlege. Sorry.
EDIT: Or just use concept haha :D
 

Salaminator

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Maybe, but this is beyond my knowlege. Sorry.
EDIT: Or just use concept haha :D
Looking into Android 6.0 Complications from this article (http://www.xda-developers.com/a-look-at-marshmallow-root-verity-complications/)
It states the following:
If you want root today, on Android Marshmallow (6.0), you’re going to need to use a modified boot image. While it remains to be seen if this remains true indefinitely, it looks likely to be the case for some time – SELinux changes make it much harder to get root access without modifying the boot image. And as modifying the boot image requires an unlocked bootloader
So i'm assuming Z3 Has SELinux thus preventing us from editting the boot image for Marshmallow Concept hence leaving us with the only option to unlock out bootloader?

Lastly: Is there a potential to convert Stock Sony ROM into an AOSP looking/feeling rom?
 
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