RedMagic 5G Series UNOFFICIAL Support

Janpaulsen

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You got a bunch of background apps running?
Auto start and persistent apps running?
Are you running your benchmark in the game space app? With performance turned on?
Are you blocking the intake vent for the fan?
Is your internal memory near full?
Have you cleared cache memory or ran trim before your benchmark?

Nubia's bench scores are tested in a lab. On clean optimized systems.

Its very possible to get similar and even better mark scores than nubia if you configure your phone correctly and prep it for a high score.

But a benchmark does not show real life performance in day to day use. Its a magic useless number that crazy people rely on for some arbitrary belief that their phone is better than another somehow.

Mine benches higher than nubia's posted scores. That without modifying anything on the phone.
I made a benchmark before the update and after the update

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Janpaulsen

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aye,

so April to October. 6 months of use, with cluttered cache, and probably only a few trims in that time. would easily make a score drop like that.
And that has nothing to do with overcrowded cache and trim. You can see that in the test above, the graphics test still has the same frame rate, but not the physical test that means the cpu is responsible. And when you switched on superperformance you always had the cpu and gpu at the highest clock rate and after the last rom update you no longer have it

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Patrick Morgan

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And that has nothing to do with overcrowded cache and trim. You can see that in the test above, the graphics test still has the same frame rate, but not the physical test that means the cpu is responsible. And when you switched on superperformance you always had the cpu and gpu at the highest clock rate and after the last rom update you no longer have it

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you know you are seeing a result that is correct.

if before you were getting 8300 on graphics with the high performance mode set to on. which means the GPU and CPU are max. and the application is set to max when the benchmark is done.


then you test again, when the perfomance mode is not visually set to max, but you get 8288 score which is basically the same score. it means the missing level of performance mode is just a visual error, and that the GPU is still running at full speed.

the CPU drop, like i said is completely possible that you have not run the test on a Clean. newly installed, and freshly cleared factory resetted device with all your data deleted. to compare scores after months of use is not fair on a bench mark unless you are testing its wear level of perfomance over time.

if you want to test performance of one update to another. the conditions have to be the same. new update, clean system. no other apps installed or enabled. cache cleared and factory reset.

running bench on any computer after it has been working for 6 months without a clear out will give you a lower score.

the fact that the GPU gave you a score close to your original means the GPU is still running at optimal performance. the CPU score means it has more clutter to deal with than the last time you ran the bench mark which can be explained by the time you had the phone, free space on device, background running apps, what else was running at the time of the benchmark, etc.

if you want to test it correctly. factory reset after each update and do the benchmark in exactly the same conditions. otherwise you're getting the wrong results.

Added some test runs of my phone at different points.

Cache cleared, no background apps, performance on, etc.

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Janpaulsen

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you know you are seeing a result that is correct.

if before you were getting 8300 on graphics with the high performance mode set to on. which means the GPU and CPU are max. and the application is set to max when the benchmark is done.


then you test again, when the perfomance mode is not visually set to max, but you get 8288 score which is basically the same score. it means the missing level of performance mode is just a visual error, and that the GPU is still running at full speed.

the CPU drop, like i said is completely possible that you have not run the test on a Clean. newly installed, and freshly cleared factory resetted device with all your data deleted. to compare scores after months of use is not fair on a bench mark unless you are testing its wear level of perfomance over time.

if you want to test performance of one update to another. the conditions have to be the same. new update, clean system. no other apps installed or enabled. cache cleared and factory reset.

running bench on any computer after it has been working for 6 months without a clear out will give you a lower score.

the fact that the GPU gave you a score close to your original means the GPU is still running at optimal performance. the CPU score means it has more clutter to deal with than the last time you ran the bench mark which can be explained by the time you had the phone, free space on device, background running apps, what else was running at the time of the benchmark, etc.

if you want to test it correctly. factory reset after each update and do the benchmark in exactly the same conditions. otherwise you're getting the wrong results.

Added some test runs of my phone at different points.

Cache cleared, no background apps, performance on, etc.

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Are you kidding me. Don't you wanna understand Of course I've emptied the cache and apps are never open, not even those running in the background. superperformance does not work properly the cpu no longer clocks at the highest clock rate. Instead of 2.84 GHz, I often have 1.80. And how do you know if I've emptied the cache or not in the 6 months and a factory reset is out of the question

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dmt-300

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Are you kidding me. Don't you wanna understand Of course I've emptied the cache and apps are never open, not even those running in the background. superperformance does not work properly the cpu no longer clocks at the highest clock rate. Instead of 2.84 GHz, I often have 1.80. And how do you know if I've emptied the cache or not in the 6 months and a factory reset is out of the question
I indeed can confirm this but I didn't care less as it didn't effect the device performance. My only conclusion to that is nubia did this to make more sell of the 5Gs! That's the only reason I can think of?
I'm downloading the android 11 beta cn ROM to see if there's any hope left in this phone.
Unfortunately nubia not welling to give the source code of the device so people can build costume ROMs instead they only gave the kernel source code which is in my opinion is a joke.
 

raumyasarkar

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I indeed can confirm this but I didn't care less as it didn't effect the device performance. My only conclusion to that is nubia did this to make more sell of the 5Gs! That's the only reason I can think of?
I'm downloading the android 11 beta cn ROM to see if there's any hope left in this phone.
Unfortunately nubia not welling to give the source code of the device so people can build costume ROMs instead they only gave the kernel source code which is in my opinion is a joke.
I am not sure about your idea of selling 5s more.but i do remember when 5g cn rom update came with better battery we asked developer for the same in global and the developer mentioned that if you needed better battery the performance will decrease. Probably that was implemented in the system


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raumyasarkar

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I indeed can confirm this but I didn't care less as it didn't effect the device performance. My only conclusion to that is nubia did this to make more sell of the 5Gs! That's the only reason I can think of?
I'm downloading the android 11 beta cn ROM to see if there's any hope left in this phone.
Unfortunately nubia not welling to give the source code of the device so people can build costume ROMs instead they only gave the kernel source code which is in my opinion is a joke.
So this is my system.i am using 3.16 and never used cn rom because it decreases performance.View attachment 5124441

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dmt-300

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So this is my system.i am using 3.16 and never used cn rom because it decreases performance.
Almost all phone have a embedded script that whenever a benchmark app detected it pushes the phone performs to get the best possible score (cheating if you like) but any other apps like games it won't pushes the phone and you can check it for yourself ?
 

raumyasarkar

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Almost all phone have a embedded script that whenever a benchmark app detected it pushes the phone performs to get the best possible score (cheating if you like) but any other apps like games it won't pushes the phone and you can check it for yourself [emoji56]
I have checked and it pushes only if it has any reason to.. And if you notice the discussion above started from the point that even in benchmark his device is not pushing to 2.84 and if you just skip that..whole discussion becomes meaningless

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---------- Post added at 02:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:19 PM ----------

I have checked and it pushes only if it has any reason to.. And if you notice the discussion above started from the point that even in benchmark his device is not pushing to 2.84 and if you just skip that..whole discussion becomes meaningless

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Also the only other way you can confirm if your processor is hitting 2.84 is by trying to render a 4k video.. If you are just launching some app which doesnt even have the ability to utilise the power of the cpu with a constant high load.. You will not be seeing 2.84 anyways.. So the 2 options you have to check if your processor is utilising most of its power is benchmark( from which this discussion started where the guy's phone wasnt hitting 2.84 in benchmark and for some reason somehow you confirmed it) or video rendering. Now i just showed you the device isnt crippled by nubia through one of those scenerios where you confirmed its crippled. And now you are just rejecting the base in which the discussion started.. Lol

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---------- Post added at 02:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:26 PM ----------

Almost all phone have a embedded script that whenever a benchmark app detected it pushes the phone performs to get the best possible score (cheating if you like) but any other apps like games it won't pushes the phone and you can check it for yourself [emoji56]
Also dear..a game is a very low standard to test cpu power.games are gpu intensive not cpu intensive..read the hustory of discussion first before giving points

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raumyasarkar

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Almost all phone have a embedded script that whenever a benchmark app detected it pushes the phone performs to get the best possible score (cheating if you like) but any other apps like games it won't pushes the phone and you can check it for yourself [emoji56]
Also fyi.. Games can only use intense cpu during loading... So just to clear your doubts about nubia crippling devices..
Check the screenshots of pes.
And... All companies are not apple one plus samsung. Check your theories before complaining about devices.View attachment 5124485View attachment 5124483

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raumyasarkar

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Are you kidding me. Don't you wanna understand Of course I've emptied the cache and apps are never open, not even those running in the background. superperformance does not work properly the cpu no longer clocks at the highest clock rate. Instead of 2.84 GHz, I often have 1.80. And how do you know if I've emptied the cache or not in the 6 months and a factory reset is out of the question

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And for you..if your device is in latest cn rom then it is expected to run slower as they made the cn rom for battery saving.if you want max out of your benchmarks..keep the phone cool.clear the vents keep it in na 3.16 because after that the battery saving was applied to global. Notice if your phone is thermal throttling.then confirm if its hitting 2.84 or not..if amy of the steps you change.its expected to run at 1.8 and not 2.84

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B4$Q

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Hi XDA,

Well, this is my first thread to clarify my identity. As many people asked, yes I'm working for Nubia and responsible for all the tech support and related stuff, including the system update and some of the development work.

I'm here with my personal account to provide UN-OFFICIAL support to all the users around the world. I hope through my effort people can enjoy the RedMagic series smartphone. And I also hope developers around the world can use our phone to make better ROMS. Due to some of the regulation and restriction most of the time I can't provide a direct answer, however I can give you some tips and hints to solve it. So please don't push me too hard.

Because my works on XDA is not officially supported by the company so I can't check the XDA very often. If you got a question just @me in your post, try not to send PM because it makes more time for me to answer. If you have Telegram group related to Nubia, you can invite me @yinzicong to join, it is better to get messages on Telegram.

At last, Thanks for choosing Nubia products.

Jerry
Can you work for the nubia z20 too? We would like to get a global rom update. We're using the same system since 2019, and we will be in 2021 soon...
 
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zayidhs

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I have checked and it pushes only if it has any reason to.. And if you notice the discussion above started from the point that even in benchmark his device is not pushing to 2.84 and if you just skip that..whole discussion becomes meaningless

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---------- Post added at 02:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:19 PM ----------

Also the only other way you can confirm if your processor is hitting 2.84 is by trying to render a 4k video.. If you are just launching some app which doesnt even have the ability to utilise the power of the cpu with a constant high load.. You will not be seeing 2.84 anyways.. So the 2 options you have to check if your processor is utilising most of its power is benchmark( from which this discussion started where the guy's phone wasnt hitting 2.84 in benchmark and for some reason somehow you confirmed it) or video rendering. Now i just showed you the device isnt crippled by nubia through one of those scenerios where you confirmed its crippled. And now you are just rejecting the base in which the discussion started.. Lol

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---------- Post added at 02:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:26 PM ----------

Also dear..a game is a very low standard to test cpu power.games are gpu intensive not cpu intensive..read the hustory of discussion first before giving points

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