Redmi 3s Town Hall Meeting, Voice Your Opinion!

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eagleeyetom

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Dear Redmi 3s users,

The moderator team for Sony and Xiaomi devices decided to create this discussion thread to clear the air within your community. There is a growing tension between multiple developers and developer groups. Unfortunately, this leads to an increasing number of unnecessary quarrels, insults or even public bashing. We want to put an end to it and restore the good spirit within your community.

This thread is a discussion panel in which you are fully entitled to voice your concerns and proposals (within the rules and good taste). We (moderators) will monitor this thread to prevent any forms of abusive behavior. We would like having this conversation in a polite and respectful way. Speak what you think. No mod actions will be taken except deletion of abusive posts. We want to resolve this conflict and make you all happier :)

Moderators are not taking sides, we are merely mediators.

Discuss :)
 

nasir.da.vinci

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Dear Redmi 3s users,

The moderator team for Sony and Xiaomi devices decided to create this discussion thread to clear the air within your community. There is a growing tension between multiple developers and developer groups. Unfortunately, this leads to an increasing number of unnecessary quarrels, insults or even public bashing. We want to put an end to it and restore the good spirit within your community.

This thread is a discussion panel in which you are fully entitled to voice your concerns and proposals (within the rules and good taste). We (moderators) will monitor this thread to prevent any forms of abusive behavior. We would like having this conversation in a polite and respectful way. Speak what you think. No mod actions will be taken except deletion of abusive posts. We want to resolve this conflict and make you all happier :)

Moderators are not taking sides, we are merely mediators.

Discuss :)

No need, now its going politer.
 

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Thank you sir.

Without spinning things round and round, I would come straight to the point.

1. I want the spirit and air of XDA should be the same as it has been throughout the years. No one should be allowed to break rules and getaway with it. People should understand XDA is not about monetizing or "making brand name". Those people whose actions are SOLELY in this direction should be appropriately warned/punished.

2. Some devs left the development after getting fed up of personal attacks. Each & every dev should be respected. If there are problems between devs/groups, they should sort it out privately, without public humiliations. There are some so called devs who hire fanboys to relieve their grudge on the guys they hate. Sad thing is now it's being carried out of XDA too.

3. Quarrels and bad blood leads to more quarrels and bad blood. Let's promote brotherhood and loving behavior between each other by not denying out of spirit of personal gains, but helping each other with whatever talent we have :). Let's make XDA not a worse, but a better place. Helping people are always loved and appreciated.

Thank you.
 
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#MiUi

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No need, now its going politer.
Nope. It isn't. Because of some developers trying to humiliate the others, some developers have given up development and some more are going to. The Personal Attacks should stop. If the fan boys (of some devs) still keep doing this every group and forum, the people who are trying to do some good would stop. The devs and fanboys mock at the other devs because they haven't made Stable N till now. But the thing they forget that is that the Devs (who have made Stable N) have been working with the device for about 5-6 Months and the others have just started from 20 days back. Please think of this the next time you laugh at them.
 

nasir.da.vinci

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Nope. It isn't. Because of some developers trying to humiliate the others, some developers have given up development and some more are going to. The Personal Attacks should stop. If the fan boys (of some devs) still keep doing this every group and forum, the people who are trying to do some good would stop. The devs and fanboys mock at the other devs because they haven't made Stable N till now. But the thing they forget that is that the Devs (who have made Stable N) have been working with the device for about 5-6 Months and the others have just started from 20 days back. Please think of this the next time you laugh at them.

They (hypers) got fans because they worked upto 22 hours a day.

If you'll not attack them then you'll not get reaction (newtons third law)
 

#MiUi

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They (hypers) got fans because they worked upto 22 hours a day.

If you'll not attack them then you'll not get reaction (newtons third law)
You are a fanboy, aren't you?
And it isn't about bragging that I've worked 22 hours a day.
And even if they did, who gave them the right to abuse and attack other devs.
And if they worked so much, why did we get at N at the time when O is arriving. All of my other devices got it(N) by September. Why couldn't Land? And if I am not wrong, they started work on Land in March. Then why did we get in Aug?


@eagleeyetom Can you stick this in development section as well?
 
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nasir.da.vinci

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You are a fanboy, aren't you?
And it isn't about bragging that I've worked 22 hours a day.
And even if they did, who gave them the right to abuse and attack other devs.
And if they worked so much, why did we get at N at the time when O is arriving. All of my other devices got it(N) by September. Why couldn't Land? And if I am not wrong, they started work on Land in March. Then why did we get in Aug?
Can you attach ( screenshot ) a single post of hyper's dev in which they were trolling.

Fans are fans

99% of them usually not paid to do so. I can also ask you , are you 1% of them.

I can now guaranty you hridayhs tricked to bring los 14 first. It was actually hypers work. I didn't told because i was little confused as he is also a dev. But now im sure as he couldn't even rework on the project. That's why hyper are so hyper. No one should steal anyone's work.

We just love development ( probably you too) not a dev.
 
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#MiUi

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Can you attach ( screenshot ) a single post of hyper's dev in which they were trolling.

Fans are fans

99% of them usually not paid to do so. I can also ask you , are you 1% of them.

I can now guaranty you hridayhs tricked to bring los 14 first. It was actually hypers work. I didn't told because i was little confused as he is also a dev. But now im sure as he couldn't even rework on the project. That's why hyper are so hyper. No one should steal anyone's work.

We just love development ( probably you too) not a dev.
Were you in the Hyper Group?
 

nasir.da.vinci

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And if they worked so much, why did we get at N at the time when O is arriving. All of my other devices got it(N) by September. Why couldn't Land? And if I am not wrong, they started work on Land in March. Then why did we get in Aug?


Well, fixing bug is not that easy. Can you fix this ?

As some others devs were trying but they couldn't even boot it yet. Does it means they dont know anything ?
 

nasir.da.vinci

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You wanna see screenshots? I have alot of them.

But remember it will be you to be blamed for the disrespect of concerned devs. It's you who wants to see, not me who wants to disrespect them.

You mean karthick xiaomidev pratickchaube darshan prasoon trolled any other dev ?
 

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I think the attacks are more of the side of the so called kanging when opensourced. Maybe this is why others closed their updated source and just opened their outdated source
 
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nasir.da.vinci

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I think the attacks are more of the side of the so called kanging when opensourced. Maybe this is why others closed their updated source and just opened their outdated source
He should release before the last fix ?

So that any other dev fork (like hridayhs) and not give any credit.

I (if i was a dev) would have also do like them first fix all then apply for maintainer of official roms and finally release it.
 

nasir.da.vinci

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By the way winner's fans can laugh on loser side. Nothing bad in it at a limit.

Next game is ahead bring android o first and laugh on us ; no problem.
 

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He should release before the last fix ?

So that any other dev fork (like hridayhs) and not give any credit.

I (if i was a dev) would have also do like them first fix all then apply for maintainer of official roms and finally release it.
Rather than name names of 1 culpable forker so what if he did? Does this mean all the rest of dev/maintainer should be automatically labeled the same until proven otherwise? If I recall correctly this whole debacle started when a team released their build (not the sources) and the other team didn't for any (yet). The latter suddenly then got ganged up upon and mega trolled. Which was completely infantile as again we already know diff teams work diff ways and thus can't be held to a certain deadlline. In fact by definition, none of any dev groups here on xda devs should be held to any deadlines ever.

The fanboys especially are a bunch of whiny leechers whose sole contribution so far has been "bug reporting" with no steps to reproduce not even logs. The majority has been posting noob style such as "How's this ROM? Is feature x working?" type of behavior which is frankly one of the top banes for any forum mod especially here in the dev section to put up with. Apparently for some of the more vocal ones, your time are a lot more valuable than even the dev themselves that you can't even be arsed to flash 1st and test. Wow...just wow.... I've even seen 1 idiot here have the gall to expect an OTA update already barely 24 hours after a build was released!?
 
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