[REF] Updated 2-OCT: Latest 6.5 and 6.5.x builds and Manila builds for Rom selection

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ypsmav

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For those like me that could be confused about the latest builds when searching for a new ROM, I’d like to share what I found after a long search.
There are several different branches of development. Higher number doesn't mean a newer version.

6.5 Builds:
These builds have the 'Start' and 'Ok' buttons on top.

a) 219xx = COM2, WM 6.5.0
The latest build is the 21916.
These builds don't include finger friendly buttons, but it's the most stable, less memory demanding, fast and the one which is giving no problems with WM6.1 software. All programs I works perfect (activesync, Tomtom, games, etc.) including those for older WM versions.
The development of the WM 6.5 is finished.

6.5.x builds:
These builds have big Start and Ok buttons at the bottom of screen, and much more finger friendly.
Main programs works work ok but some old programs have position problems.

b) 230xx = COM3, WM 6.5.3
The latest build I found is the 23153.
This is branch used by the 'official' 6.5.3 devices.
These builds include finger friendly buttons, start button at the bottom and eye candy appearance.
I'm using (cooking) these builds for everyday use and they are stable and showing very good performance.
Last build was just released by DFT.

c) 290xx,
New branch.
The latest build I found is the 29022
It has good Ram management, it's stable and quite fast.
IE has flash support.
I've been using this branch for a few weeks with good results.
This branch is the only one active recently.

d) 216xx
The latest build I found was 21690
HTC branch development.
Good Ram management, stable and very snappy.

e) 236xx
The latest build I found is the 23699.
It seems to be very fast and stable.

f) 282xx
Latest build found was 28245
Apparently the latest builds are very stable and faster than other 6.5.x builds.

g) 24xxx
Latest build found is the 24635.
Seems to be fast, stable & visually appealing. Battery consumption seems very good as well.
Possible HTC branch

h) 235xx = COM5 [Discontinued]
The latest ROM I found is the 23569.
This is a development branch, finger friendly with new Outlook Interface and threaded email. It's not as stable as the COM2/3 builds.
The development on this branch seems to be finished.

i) other branches 6.5.x:
I found the 22047, 25028


Manila 2.5 builds (HTC Sense):
The latest one found is the build 2.5.2021 with manila home 2022.
Sense 2.5 is really great, even if it consume a lot of resuorces from your phone.

When selecting a ROM you will find:
- LEO Manila 2.5: It include all tabs (ereader, docs, footprints), but it's very slow on the blackstone.
- Rodhium Manila 2.5: this one is optimized for our old (slow) processor, it works on landscape mode, but it does not include eReader, docs and Footrint tab and some of the animations have been removed (music and pictures tabs on landscape). (note: you will find some hybrid versions based on the Rodhium manila with the missing tabs added. E.G: NRGZ28)

For the differences between Manila 2.1 and 2.5 check this post.


Manila 2.1 builds (HTC Sense):
The latest one found is the build 2.1.38411.0
Not as nice as the 2.5, but it's much faster and uses less memory.


HTC Packages:
From LEO: 3.14 (From TMUS HD2 including Manila 2.5.2018) .
From Rhodium: 2.10 (From ATT Tilt 2 including Manila 2.5.2013) .
From Oboe (Com3): 1.18 including Manila 2021
From Huasan (com3): 1.27


Pls feel free to comment about your experiencies on the different branches, and we will update the post.
:)



Also I had a few questions/answers:
a) Does anyone know which is the WM6.5 build that is included on the devices which appear on the 6-oct? and which is the one found in the latest LEO?
Reply post #8: in Austria Samsung OMNIA II with WM 6.5 build 21856.5.0.65

b) Seen a lot of discussion about ‘page pool’. Is it something that normal users have to know, or is it just for cookers?
Reply post #8: Yes, you can improve the speed of the rom you're about to flash, but it will reduce the program memory

c) Why Manila (HTC TouchFlo/ Sense) can not be found as a Cab?
There are some developers which have created some instalable CABs, but as a general rule if you want to update your manila you need to flash a new ROM with the Manila version you want.
Rgds
 
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nice work :)

I wouldn't call those ugly fat buttons in the later versions "eye candy" though, seems people are split over how helpful they actually are, having tried them myself I found them to be unnecessarily large and wrecked the look of Manila. But each to his own I suppose, looks like that is the direction they are going with Windows 7

oh I believe the rtm version and the one on leo are the 218xx builds, they are far more stable and work well with Manila, you won't see any of the later fat button builds until next year at least.
 
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nice work :)

I wouldn't call those ugly fat buttons in the later versions "eye candy" though, seems people are split over how helpful they actually are, having tried them myself I found them to be unnecessarily large and wrecked the look of Manila. But each to his own I suppose, looks like that is the direction they are going with Windows 7

oh I believe the rtm version and the one on leo are the 218xx builds, they are far more stable and work well with Manila, you won't see any of the later fat button builds until next year at least.

Hmm... although the buttons at the bottom often don't look very nice - if they're skinned the right way, the do look great. And using MaxTTM to make the top and bottom bars transparent, it looks even better! And I just love that I no longer have to stretch my small hands all the way across the screen just to open the start menu or tap X ... ;)
 

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c) 230xx = COM3, continuing development of 6.5.0.60
The latest one I found is the 23064.
These builds include finger friendly buttons, start button at the bottom and eye candy appearance, but seems that the Roms cooked with this build still have bugs.
We can find a few Roms form PhamQuang of on this branch and also Miri has posted some test versions. Hellonasty too: Maryone V0.01, V0.02 and V0.03 (coming soon with "Manila 1920xx" according to his last post edit)

Also I have a few questions:
a) Does anyone know which is the WM6.5 build that is included on the devices which appear on the 6-oct? Here in Austria I bought a Samsung OMNIA II with WM 6.5 build 21856.5.0.65

b) Seen a lot of discussion about ‘page pool’. Is it something that normal users have to know, Yes, I can improve the speed of the rom you're about to flash, but it will reduce the program memory. or is it just for cookers?

Thanks to this great forum. Yes, it is a very great forum!
Rgds

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Nice day all!
 

3lixir

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Hmm... although the buttons at the bottom often don't look very nice - if they're skinned the right way, the do look great. And using MaxTTM to make the top and bottom bars transparent, it looks even better! And I just love that I no longer have to stretch my small hands all the way across the screen just to open the start menu or tap X ... ;)

I skinned the buttons too, (or just use the htc black theme) but still think they are needlessly too big and push the rest of the screen up, and having start at the bottom just doesn't look as smart and spoils the symmetry, it's seems tacky and clumsy in my opinion since it was designed with Titanium in mind and not htc sense .

Personally I think they should put an option to have the large buttons in the "accessibility" or "ease of access" section in settings along with the large font size and text to speech options.... ;)
 
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Hmm... although the buttons at the bottom often don't look very nice - if they're skinned the right way, the do look great. And using MaxTTM to make the top and bottom bars transparent, it looks even better! And I just love that I no longer have to stretch my small hands all the way across the screen just to open the start menu or tap X ... ;)

Hi Mameingast,

Can you please explain me how you have skinned these buttons? I have been looking for the names of these buttons, but couldn't find them.
I would appreciate a little help very much.
 

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Hi Mameingast,

Can you please explain me how you have skinned these buttons? I have been looking for the names of these buttons, but couldn't find them.
I would appreciate a little help very much.

Hey!

The way the buttons look is part of the WM-theme you choose. The one I use is called "htc black theme" (someone else here already mentioned that theme). With it, the buttons are no longer buttons but only the symbols - which already looks alot better to me.

And for the background including the bars you have to use MaxTTM (search for it in the theme section). It has a WM 6.5 option to get the background image to stretch behind the top and bottom bars as well: You have to open MaxTTM, head to the WM 6.5 tab and check a few boxes there. Since my HD is broken, I can't check the correct settings atm, but I'm sure someone else can help you with that! Also, there is a manual for MaxTTM which should include some useful information!
 

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Just some info to update the first post with: The screenshot attached is taken from Hellonasty's MaryOne v0.03 (which is bloody excellent by the way).

Good idea this thread. Hopefully, the OP will keep it updated.
 

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    FYI, there is a new build 23151 of the very active COM3 branch.
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    for the manila home 2022 (core 2021) you can get them from the Cracing thread here:
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815930
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    For those like me that could be confused about the latest builds when searching for a new ROM, I’d like to share what I found after a long search.
    There are several different branches of development. Higher number doesn't mean a newer version.

    6.5 Builds:
    These builds have the 'Start' and 'Ok' buttons on top.

    a) 219xx = COM2, WM 6.5.0
    The latest build is the 21916.
    These builds don't include finger friendly buttons, but it's the most stable, less memory demanding, fast and the one which is giving no problems with WM6.1 software. All programs I works perfect (activesync, Tomtom, games, etc.) including those for older WM versions.
    The development of the WM 6.5 is finished.

    6.5.x builds:
    These builds have big Start and Ok buttons at the bottom of screen, and much more finger friendly.
    Main programs works work ok but some old programs have position problems.

    b) 230xx = COM3, WM 6.5.3
    The latest build I found is the 23153.
    This is branch used by the 'official' 6.5.3 devices.
    These builds include finger friendly buttons, start button at the bottom and eye candy appearance.
    I'm using (cooking) these builds for everyday use and they are stable and showing very good performance.
    Last build was just released by DFT.

    c) 290xx,
    New branch.
    The latest build I found is the 29022
    It has good Ram management, it's stable and quite fast.
    IE has flash support.
    I've been using this branch for a few weeks with good results.
    This branch is the only one active recently.

    d) 216xx
    The latest build I found was 21690
    HTC branch development.
    Good Ram management, stable and very snappy.

    e) 236xx
    The latest build I found is the 23699.
    It seems to be very fast and stable.

    f) 282xx
    Latest build found was 28245
    Apparently the latest builds are very stable and faster than other 6.5.x builds.

    g) 24xxx
    Latest build found is the 24635.
    Seems to be fast, stable & visually appealing. Battery consumption seems very good as well.
    Possible HTC branch

    h) 235xx = COM5 [Discontinued]
    The latest ROM I found is the 23569.
    This is a development branch, finger friendly with new Outlook Interface and threaded email. It's not as stable as the COM2/3 builds.
    The development on this branch seems to be finished.

    i) other branches 6.5.x:
    I found the 22047, 25028


    Manila 2.5 builds (HTC Sense):
    The latest one found is the build 2.5.2021 with manila home 2022.
    Sense 2.5 is really great, even if it consume a lot of resuorces from your phone.

    When selecting a ROM you will find:
    - LEO Manila 2.5: It include all tabs (ereader, docs, footprints), but it's very slow on the blackstone.
    - Rodhium Manila 2.5: this one is optimized for our old (slow) processor, it works on landscape mode, but it does not include eReader, docs and Footrint tab and some of the animations have been removed (music and pictures tabs on landscape). (note: you will find some hybrid versions based on the Rodhium manila with the missing tabs added. E.G: NRGZ28)

    For the differences between Manila 2.1 and 2.5 check this post.


    Manila 2.1 builds (HTC Sense):
    The latest one found is the build 2.1.38411.0
    Not as nice as the 2.5, but it's much faster and uses less memory.


    HTC Packages:
    From LEO: 3.14 (From TMUS HD2 including Manila 2.5.2018) .
    From Rhodium: 2.10 (From ATT Tilt 2 including Manila 2.5.2013) .
    From Oboe (Com3): 1.18 including Manila 2021
    From Huasan (com3): 1.27


    Pls feel free to comment about your experiencies on the different branches, and we will update the post.
    :)



    Also I had a few questions/answers:
    a) Does anyone know which is the WM6.5 build that is included on the devices which appear on the 6-oct? and which is the one found in the latest LEO?
    Reply post #8: in Austria Samsung OMNIA II with WM 6.5 build 21856.5.0.65

    b) Seen a lot of discussion about ‘page pool’. Is it something that normal users have to know, or is it just for cookers?
    Reply post #8: Yes, you can improve the speed of the rom you're about to flash, but it will reduce the program memory

    c) Why Manila (HTC TouchFlo/ Sense) can not be found as a Cab?
    There are some developers which have created some instalable CABs, but as a general rule if you want to update your manila you need to flash a new ROM with the Manila version you want.
    Rgds
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    @styler_RO: if you have not tested WM6.5, I would really advise you to test it. It runs as fast as WM6.1, if not even faster, and it is more user-friendly.
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    29022 is out

    29022 is out, but seems that the guys for DFT are not releasing it.
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