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PeartFan40

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Excuse me? That was not very nice at all. If you do not have anything to contribute to this request thread than keepa you mouth shut!
Geez, some people....

Speaking of not being nice...Was this ^^ really neccessary? CFB has been around the block a few times, and contributes a lot of useful information to XDA. He wasn't being rude at all; just offering an alternate point of view.

Let's stay on topic, and refrain from posting flamatory comments.

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I actually like the idea. You learn by either having a pop up or googling, but you end up LEARNING them. That's the point, right?

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I actually like the idea. You learn by either having a pop up or googling, but you end up LEARNING them. That's the point, right?

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Tbh I also like the idea. If it's not taking to much server resources I would vote for it.

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I actually like the idea. You learn by either having a pop up or googling, but you end up LEARNING them. That's the point, right?

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My problem with it is simply that it took me all of 60 seconds total to google all four terms and find their meanings. Sure, it might seem like a good idea, and I kind of like it too, but there's a dark side to it as well. This new generation of smartphone users that most of us old timers keep complaining about isn't going away and will only get worse. If they see an acronym they aren't familiar with and it drives them to Google for an answer, then I consider that a small victory. It really does blow my mind how many Android users there are out there now, but how few of them actually use the search engine when they have questions. Honestly, searching Google is far simpler than posting in a forum and waiting until someone comes along and feels like answering.

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If I had to pick one thing that frustrates me more than anything, it wouldn't be the penis meter, or the silly questions. It would be the people who use "being a noob" as an excuse. Even worse are those who try to deflect there problems by saying "remember when you were a noob!" Guess what, Sonny Jim; that's no excuse. First off, don't try to excuse your laziness by saying you're new. This is an extreme example, but you don't go to visit another country, then kill someone and get off the hook by saying you didn't know it was against the law there.

These same users don't seem to realize that, while yes, I was a new user at one point, I was not a noob, nor did I make excuses for my laziness. I didn't post for nearly a year when I signed up for XDA originally in 2006 or so. Even then, I was able to find answers to nearly all my problems or questions by searching. I learned how to give useful feedback when things went awry. I learned not only what went wrong, but I learned why it went wrong in the first place. I wanted to make my phone/PDA cool, but I also wanted to know what was making it cool in the first place.

I feel like the passion for learning is disappearing from this new generation. The majority of them don't care why things work. They only want it, and expect it, to work. This is a concept I cannot wrap my head around. Mommy needs to start making Little Billy work for his toys, so he actually gives a $hit when he breaks it.

I've been seeing comments lately about how if little Billy breaks his phone, he doesn't care, because he can just lie to Samsung, HTC, or whoever and claim a warranty repair. You know what happens when I break my toys? I man up, take responsibility, and buy a new one, because my dumb @ss didn't read enough before I flashed something. You know how many times that has happened to me? Zero.

Read until your eyes bleed, and search until your fingernails fall off.

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I agree 100% with it being easier to Google things first. I've never understood why people will ask a really simple question on here (and other forums) and have to wait for an answer, when they could use Google and get the answer much quicker.

I haven't really had to ask many questions while being a member on this site for a few reasons.
1) I'll read around XDA before performing a task, if I'm not sure about it, so that way I know that if I experience a problem but I've done everything as I should've done, then I know that the blame isn't on me so either something randomly went wrong or the directions I've followed were incorrect.
2) I'll always use Google to find my answer before I even think about asking on here. I won't just do a quick search and leave it at that, I'll do what a lot of the more sensible members will do and I'll change around the search terms, refine my search down to select sites etc.

If after doing both of those, I still haven't found my answer, that's when I'll find the most relevant thread on this site and ask my question there.


And I loved the example you gave about killing someone. Not gonna lie, it made me LOL :D


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I think iam going to use the app bug to bump your count, i know you like it so much :D :D

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Future prediction. Dumb users using smart phones. Smart phones become smarter than dumb users and take over the world. SkyNet Mobile.....

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Future prediction. Dumb users using smart phones. Smart phones become smarter than dumb users and take over the world. SkyNet Mobile.....

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Not really relevant to this thread. But I'd put money on that prediction, lol

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While I do agree that the acronym dictionary would be a good idea, imo it would be another way to spoonfeed the newbies who join up nowadays...
So I suggest a slight change, a compromise between "spoonfeeding them" and "forcing them to use google"...
Why not spoonfeed them to use google?
When, as suggested, commonly used acronym's like adb or cwm appear, rather than having a defintion pop up, why not have the text "Don't know what this is? Click here for the Google definition result" hyperlinked to the relevant search page!
This way, you subconsciously show the newbies that most of their quick questions can be answered by a Google search...and you do attempt to cut down on "what is adb plizz" posts...


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While I do agree that the acronym dictionary would be a good idea, imo it would be another way to spoonfeed the newbies who join up nowadays...
So I suggest a slight change, a compromise between "spoonfeeding them" and "forcing them to use google"...
Why not spoonfeed them to use google?
When, as suggested, commonly used acronym's like adb or cwm appear, rather than having a defintion pop up, why not have the text "Don't know what this is? Click here for the Google definition result" hyperlinked to the relevant search page!
This way, you subconsciously show the newbies that most of their quick questions can be answered by a Google search...and you do attempt to cut down on "what is adb plizz" posts...


"By the power vested in me, I now pronounce you, Man and Knife"

That acronym or a similar thing can be a part of the xda university.
Not really sure what the university will offer.
 

a.cid

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That acronym or a similar thing can be a part of the xda university.
Not really sure what the university will offer.

It could be a part of both...
I'm not sure what we can speak of xda-u in the public, so I'll leave commenting on this for the mods and admins concerned...


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Fallen Spartan

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Right, enough of the crap talk. Thread back on topic please

No, they aren't. Whatever, say what you'd like. That was ages ago, the game. And I contacted mods as an apology and a request to remove them if possible

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Problem with this is, you have 4600 posts. I am not going to waste my time going through all your posts to delete the useless ones. A complete waste of my time, plus I have better things to be doing with my life. If I thought you had enough useless posts, I'd rather just delete them all tbh. But I am not going to do that either. I hope, as you say, the game is over and your posts have since become more useful
 
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Right, enough of the crap talk. Thread back on topic please



Problem with this is, you have 4600 posts. I am not going to waste my time going through all your posts to delete the useless ones. A complete waste of my time, plus I have better things to be doing with my life. If I thought you had enough useless posts, I'd rather just delete them all tbh. But I am not going to do that either. I hope, as you say, the game is over and your posts have since become more useful

Thank you, Fallen Spartan.

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You could always change the name of the Thanks button to "Press if you have a small one, Thanks". That would suddenly make an awful lot of annoying signatures suddenly funny, at least in a juvenile way...

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    Dear admin/s, I take this opportunity to express my great resentment and disappointment in the attitude if one TheDeadCPU, who has chosen to close down kquicksalls thread in the inc s ROM development sub-forum. I realise the action has occured due to ruffling of the feathers of the above-named admin, who has taken umbrage to initiate such drastic action.....
    Hey, I'm speaking plain English now, on behalf of all users of his thread; please re-instate kquicksall and tell the dead CPU to take anger management classes and vent his frustrations elsewhere.....
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    Now I have had to hold my tounge on this for a while but no longer.
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    XDA IS a place to come to learn and share your knowledge. If you are not here for those reasons then you are here for the wrong ones.



    I have watched XDA become a place where every dumbass in the world has a smartphone and comes here thinking they have the right to anything. Well guess what? You dont have the right to ****. We share it because we want to and we dont if we dont feel like it. Are the Developers or the Mods required to make you happy? Nope not in the least. Wanna leave. Go ahead. I beg you, please do. The less people that are asking dumb question cause they dont know what they are doing (this is understood when your new, but at least look) or are too lazy to look for it the better.

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    Hi all

    A few of us Moderators have been getting PM's that in my case have not been dealt with due to the fact I am not always on the board.

    All of us do this for free and in our spare time, and over time we move on, get new toys, or even go back to a real life without a keyboard under our fingers.

    Please try to understand that some of us are Bias (I admit to it I have a BA and am not intrested in many of the other sections).
    Thus I for one do not read all posts and all sections, I feel this is true for others, like I said I feel this.
    We all however try to check the trash and keep the news clean.

    For this reason we need a form of communication that is not based on a person but directed to a group and in this case its the Moderators and Admins.

    It is with that motivation in mind that I have opened this thread and made it sticky in the hope that you are able to post issues that you think that at least one of us should deal with.

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    Thats true when a good or bad relationship is made with a mod not specifically here but any forum it can make things very unfair to the user but there are plenty that do there job's as they should almost like a judge where no matter the situation your ruling is fair based not on who is involved but on the situation at hand. Things can go bad with mods though and be unfair, when I was at xbox-hq I formed a good relationship with all the admins and mods except one, I'm not going to give his name but I had proven he was giving out misinformation a number of times and banning the ones who called him out or got pissed cause he screwed up there xbox with what he was telling them to do, I was the one along with my buddy wes and a few others that was on there getting them all working again. One day he banned me for it so I emailed the site admin and since I had already been talking with them about what he was doing and the problems he was causing killing ppl's box's and banning ppl the way he was not for any site rules violation but because he wanted to for whatever lame reason he had. Anyways I emailed the site admin and since I was already in the running to be a mod he unbanned me banned the offending mod and gave me his position. After that no one had any problems. Over here I see no real problems with any of our mods, they all seem to have the site, its procedures, and rules in best interest and thats how it should be. I know mods do form friendships and sometimes problems with users but it should never be a part of a decision they make it makes things unfair to other users, just like trying to force mods to look into someone getting a position is unfair to the person trying and looks bad on them and the person they're trying to get it for. I've looked into nils work on here and he shouldn't have much trouble getting dev status but everyone but him really should stay out of it cause you're making him look bad and making this whole process harder on him and adding alot of stress he could do without as being a dev for any device/console etc... is already stressful. Anyways nils I hope things work out for you, and mods keep up the good work, I know with how large the site is you guys put in alot of hard work keeping things under control and your work and services are highly under appreciated. On the topic if requests I agree that a noob specific section would be great for ppl just coming to android wp7 etc. When coming here it puts alot if ppl in way over their head trying to find the right info to get started and it would hopefully cut down on repeat threads asking the same things, how do I start dev, how do I find this or do that. It'd also be great if in chef central we could get a sticky with links that are kind of burried in the threads in there that are helpful to beginning rom cooking as there are way too many how do I start rom cooking threads started in there that pushes the useful info further and further into the far reaches of chef central that could all be easily answered this way, I know cyanogen's topic over there is stickied but its really only a small part of the good info burried in CC.

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    Just a question I'd like to ask the forum admins....
    When some lame junior member makes six battery widgets, it features on your headlines, but when a seasoned recognised developer in the HTC Incredible S section manages to port TWO JELLYBEAN ROMS AS A FIRST-EVER effort for the inc s, no one takes notice ... "Ho hum, what else is new"...
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    I want to thank all the Mods...I did referral trading for a few years and spent about a year of that being a moderator on two of the forums I worked on. It is HARD work being a mod especially if you have a wife and or children. Your family deserves to have you in their lives and being a mod requires time spent in the forum away from the family. I ended up in some arguements with my wife over how much time I was spending on my computer....She was right; I was on it too much!

    For all you mods out their I want to suggest that you remember your family does come first and the forum second. Many users do not understand this and sometimes expect you mods to be there all the time. The forum will still be there after you spend time with the family. The users here may get frazzled having to wait but it is better than having your spouse getting frazzled!!!

    Forum users please remember these mods have lives that come first and they try very hard to balance life with being here helping you FOR FREE!
    God bless this forum God bless our mods!!!

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    P.S....Lets all try and help each other around here, you will get those ten posts before you know it...Read, learn, post.......suddenly you will have over 100 posts!!