I'm talking about asian stuff that you can't even buy or even pay for sites like dramafever/crunchyroll though but ok.
Returning Xoom
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I think what you are doing is fine. I'm sure you would pay for it if you could. But technically...
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Sophistry.
Since the poster I responded to complained about the quality of streaming I would argue it is not banned in his country. Regardless "it is illegal to watch in my country so i have to pirate it" does not seem like a particularly sound argument.
South Park is also perhaps not the best choice to use as a comparison. List what anime that is banned in your country that you want to watch.
I did not say he should pirate stuff. I was only saying that not everyone can legally get anything they want by paying more.
>Regardless "it is illegal to watch in my country so i have to pirate it" does not seem like a particularly sound argument.
Yeah, you know I always said pirates should use better arguments.
OK hows about this one.. piracy is needed for the betterment of society!
Support: Piracy drove industry standards like MP3, without which we would be faced with a plethora of balkanized proprietary (and DRM'ed!) formats. Because of such stalwart trailbreakers like, ah, Napster, and, ummm, Limewire, the music industry had to play fair with the consumers, and make available DRM-free music, and at reasonable prices.
It's not just music, but with every available form of content. Without the encouragement of, ah, user-distributed content, the movie & music industry would have no reason to forgo predatory pricing. As morally repugnant as the term "piracy" may evoke, it's a necessary check-and-balance that allows the consumer an important say in the pricing of content.
So, when you pirate, you ARE SAVING THE WORLD!
OK or something like that anyway.. I could never get the jingo right.. somebody help me out here...
Yeah, you know I always said pirates should use better arguments.
OK hows about this one.. piracy is needed for the betterment of society!
Support: Piracy drove industry standards like MP3, without which we would be faced with a plethora of balkanized proprietary (and DRM'ed!) formats. Because of such stalwart trailbreakers like, ah, Napster, and, ummm, Limewire, the music industry had to play fair with the consumers, and make available DRM-free music, and at reasonable prices.
It's not just music, but with every available form of content. Without the encouragement of, ah, user-distributed content, the movie & music industry would have no reason to forgo predatory pricing. As morally repugnant as the term "piracy" may evoke, it's a necessary check-and-balance that allows the consumer an important say in the pricing of content.
So, when you pirate, you ARE SAVING THE WORLD!
OK or something like that anyway.. I could never get the jingo right.. somebody help me out here...
I thought I might add a different viewpoint to the discussion as I just purchased a Xoom. Not for $600 or whatever crazy price the adopters jumped in for, but a few hundred dollars brand new off of craigslist. It seems it's already becoming easy to score good deals on Android tablets as the market is being flooded with new models, some of which will barely ever see significant sales before they are thrown aside for the next shiny model.
I bought it because I'm so fascinated by the devices themselves, I had to see what this whole Android Honeycomb was all about. I owned the Ipad and now the Ipad 2 which is truly the greatest gadget I've ever owned. It has become in integral part of my life, at work, in my studies, my entertainment and even gaming which it is getting pretty amazing at.
The reason I mention that background is that its not the specs of the computer that matter much with tablets. Its all about software and OS now. Its about the OS maker having a vision and creating an environment for the developers to follow. It doesn't matter how many different slates or phones get released with Android on them this year, until Google focuses on this project instead of treating it like one of their many side projects it will continue to feel somewhat bootstrapped and going in circles as hardware manufacturers try to drum up interest by swapping the screens or internals.
every time I've owned a Linux device people talked about freedom, but what good is freedom in a device if there isn't much to do with it? I rooted day one because there frankly wasn't enough substance in the app shop. However, there are some really cool features and beginnings here in this Honeycomb that are thrilling. It seems like the perfect time for people to make that jump into learning development if they are so inclined. I could mess with just the UI for several days before getting bored.
I'd suggest not trading or selling your Xoom for the next best thing. I've gotta say its built really well and just well enough established that people have it ready for whatever Google decides to do. Its a nice starting point, just as good as any other Android tablet out there. Hell, I have to say the build quality is much better than most. Its just not going to matter until Google comes up with a better plan. Or maybe Amazon, who knows. I'm glad I have this to see what's next, its a nice machine.
I bought it because I'm so fascinated by the devices themselves, I had to see what this whole Android Honeycomb was all about. I owned the Ipad and now the Ipad 2 which is truly the greatest gadget I've ever owned. It has become in integral part of my life, at work, in my studies, my entertainment and even gaming which it is getting pretty amazing at.
The reason I mention that background is that its not the specs of the computer that matter much with tablets. Its all about software and OS now. Its about the OS maker having a vision and creating an environment for the developers to follow. It doesn't matter how many different slates or phones get released with Android on them this year, until Google focuses on this project instead of treating it like one of their many side projects it will continue to feel somewhat bootstrapped and going in circles as hardware manufacturers try to drum up interest by swapping the screens or internals.
every time I've owned a Linux device people talked about freedom, but what good is freedom in a device if there isn't much to do with it? I rooted day one because there frankly wasn't enough substance in the app shop. However, there are some really cool features and beginnings here in this Honeycomb that are thrilling. It seems like the perfect time for people to make that jump into learning development if they are so inclined. I could mess with just the UI for several days before getting bored.
I'd suggest not trading or selling your Xoom for the next best thing. I've gotta say its built really well and just well enough established that people have it ready for whatever Google decides to do. Its a nice starting point, just as good as any other Android tablet out there. Hell, I have to say the build quality is much better than most. Its just not going to matter until Google comes up with a better plan. Or maybe Amazon, who knows. I'm glad I have this to see what's next, its a nice machine.
First, welcome!
Second, I agree and disagree!
I agree that mobile toys are a "new world," and it's fun to be in on the ground floor. Definitely fun for the tinkering types. BTW, you kinda contradict yourself a little bit when you say "what good is Linux if there isn't much to do with it.." You can tinker, of course! No biggie..
I disagree in that the tinker-toes don't make up the majority. Consumers are just that, they consume. And if toys make them inconvenient to consumer, it's a bad toy! Next, better toy!
Android as it is isn't quite ready for consumers, and the Tegra 2 platform also isn't quite up to par. Disenchantment sets in! DIVORCE TIME!
So how much is the Xoom going on CL.. I haven't checked lately.. can't see myself jumping unless it's below 3 Benjies...
Second, I agree and disagree!
I agree that mobile toys are a "new world," and it's fun to be in on the ground floor. Definitely fun for the tinkering types. BTW, you kinda contradict yourself a little bit when you say "what good is Linux if there isn't much to do with it.." You can tinker, of course! No biggie..
I disagree in that the tinker-toes don't make up the majority. Consumers are just that, they consume. And if toys make them inconvenient to consumer, it's a bad toy! Next, better toy!
Android as it is isn't quite ready for consumers, and the Tegra 2 platform also isn't quite up to par. Disenchantment sets in! DIVORCE TIME!
So how much is the Xoom going on CL.. I haven't checked lately.. can't see myself jumping unless it's below 3 Benjies...
I like my xoom and when it gets ice cream sandwhich along with the other tabs and some high end phones the market problems will be solved since it'll be the same operating system
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Your own fault for being in an industry that blows.Thanks for voiding the warranty, shortening the life span and then when custom software didnt work for you, returning the product. Those of us in the retail industry really appreciate it
+1 agree.
i dont understand why some people buy stuff and dont really understand or know what they're buying and then they end up complaining why it doesnt have the things they are looking for in the product.
I'm definitely disappointed that the sd card and 4g isn't working yet, and also that Google has not released the source code for Honeycomb. In fact I'm downright pissed off about it. I bought my Xoom believing that it would follow a similar course as my Droid did. I expected the hardware to be completely working in a reasonable amount of time, and then a pretty much full exploitation of all the hardware & software to follow in it's own time as developers released better and better ROMs.
That's not happening yet, but I believe it will soon; -Soon enough where my 4g Xoom sporting a kick-ass ROM will outperform most new tablets as they come out of their boxes. It's why I bought it. If I had no intention of rooting it and installing a custom developed ROM on it, I probably would've bought a cheaper tablet.
But I sympathize (very much) with those who did buy a Xoom, never intending to have to root it just to get the promised functionality, who have become too frustrated from the wait, especially as new tablets are expected to be released soon boasting better features (or on par with) than the Xoom, for less money! I mean, as a consumer, how is this not a kick in the teeth that our sd card slots have to be hacked (...thus voiding the warrantee) just for our tablets to be almost as functional as they were advertised to be?
I LOVE my Xoom, and there's no way I'm getting rid of it. In fact, if I dropped it down the stairs and killed it, I'd go blow nearly all of my pay check on a new one that same day. Does the screen suck? -No, it does not. Does the build quality suck? No, it does not. Does it suck at anything that it's supposed to do? The only thing I can think of is that it sucks at making Motorola look good. Other than that, it's a great tablet that's still going to be great for flashing that perfect ROM onto.
It all (always) comes down to"application".
Intend to root/hack/flash an Android tablet? The Xoom could be perfect for you.
Intend to leave it stock? Maybe you should look around a bit before choosing the Xoom, as there are other tablets that offer better functionality right out of the box.
Want perfect graphics from a perfect screen? You might be asking too much from any tablet just yet.
No matter what, if you don't bother to do your research before dropping several hundred bucks on some fancy glass, you're being foolish. That's the difference I see between Xoom owners disappointed about the hardware & software delays, and those disappointed in the tablet itself. The two different reasons should never be in the same thread, but they almost always are.
That's not happening yet, but I believe it will soon; -Soon enough where my 4g Xoom sporting a kick-ass ROM will outperform most new tablets as they come out of their boxes. It's why I bought it. If I had no intention of rooting it and installing a custom developed ROM on it, I probably would've bought a cheaper tablet.
But I sympathize (very much) with those who did buy a Xoom, never intending to have to root it just to get the promised functionality, who have become too frustrated from the wait, especially as new tablets are expected to be released soon boasting better features (or on par with) than the Xoom, for less money! I mean, as a consumer, how is this not a kick in the teeth that our sd card slots have to be hacked (...thus voiding the warrantee) just for our
tablets to be almost as functional as they were advertised to be?I LOVE my Xoom, and there's no way I'm getting rid of it. In fact, if I dropped it down the stairs and killed it, I'd go blow nearly all of my pay check on a new one that same day. Does the screen suck? -No, it does not. Does the build quality suck? No, it does not. Does it suck at anything that it's supposed to do? The only thing I can think of is that it sucks at making Motorola look good. Other than that, it's a great tablet that's still going to be great for flashing that perfect ROM onto.
It all (always) comes down to"application".
Intend to root/hack/flash an Android tablet? The Xoom could be perfect for you.
Intend to leave it stock? Maybe you should look around a bit before choosing the Xoom, as there are other tablets that offer better functionality right out of the box.
Want perfect graphics from a perfect screen? You might be asking too much from any tablet just yet.
No matter what, if you don't bother to do your research before dropping several hundred bucks on some fancy glass, you're being foolish. That's the difference I see between Xoom owners disappointed about the hardware & software delays, and those disappointed in the tablet itself. The two different reasons should never be in the same thread, but they almost always are.
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@psychokitty
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Exactly. I am waiting (impatiently) for the LTE upgrade before I root but you explained our opinion better than I could have.
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Exactly. I am waiting (impatiently) for the LTE upgrade before I root but you explained our opinion better than I could have.
You hope.
That's why I returned mine... Too much hoping and no actual problem solving updates.
That and it's not worth the $640 when you can get the same thing (or better) for less.
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