RK3066 Lollipop 5.1.1 possibility ?

pa.ko

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Is there any chance that a Lollipop 5.1.1 rom will be developed for the RK3066? Will it even run on the older HUs?
TIA
After finding in other thread that LP for 3188 is in fact 'Frankenstein' 4.4 with LP API level 20 (something used for Android Ware) I guess that there may be possibility to use existing 4.4 kernel of 3066 and just add same API classes.
 

pa.ko

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no..
mtcB will not get real lollipop

RK3066 will not get even the fake lollipop
you need to upgrade to RK3188
How do you know?

He asked 'is there a possibility'. Yes there is a possibility someon who is true developer to build it. The same way Chinese's did it for rk3188 - using old kernel and adding new API and apps. Only real difference is on kernel level as it is only thing tied to HW (CPU). And as LP is supposedly 'lightier' than KK, even 2 core rk3066 would be good enough and even work better. So technically there is no limits.

So, as I said, there is possibility. If there is true devs to step in instead of these who are just patching and repainting over Chinese's ROMs.

Here on XDA you may find lot of true custom ROMs which are true original development from the scratch instead just cosmetics over stock ROMs.

But I truly doubt that will happen. Here we have no true original ROM development. And thus I may agree with you that rk3066 LP is not possible. Even it technically is.
 
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How do you know?

He asked 'is there a possibility'. Yes there is a possibility someon who is true developer to build it. The same way Chinese's did it for rk3188 - using old kernel and adding new API and apps. Only real difference is on kernel level as it is only thing tied to HW (CPU). And as LP is supposedly 'lightier' than KK, even 2 core rk3066 would be good enough and even work better. So technically there is no limits.

So, as I said, there is possibility. If there is true devs to step in instead of these who are just patching and repainting over Chinese's ROMs.

Here on XDA you may find lot of true custom ROMs which are true original development from the scratch instead just cosmetics over stock ROMs.

But I truly doubt that will happen. Here we have no true original ROM development. And thus I may agree with you that rk3066 LP is not possible. Even it technically is.
I said it before and I was almost proven wrong by the fake lollipop mtcB ROM but it came out that I was fake.

I worked closely with Joying on this.. they tried and no matter what they did they could not get lollipop loaded on RK3188 mtcB.

considering there is no source code for these around I doubt anyone else spends time on this specially on Rk3066
 
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I said it before and I was almost proven wrong by the fake lollipop mtcB ROM but it came out that I was fake.

I worked closely with Joying on this.. they tried and no matter what they did they could not get lollipop loaded on RK3188 mtcB.

considering there is no source code for these around I doubt anyone else spends time on this specially on Rk3066
And that is where the PK is wrong..
He keeps harping on about fake developers and no one has the skills..
Yet he himself is not a developer.. and is not taking into account that the source code is not released for either the MCU or the layer of Android being used..

It's fine to harp on that there are real developers on XDA ( which as we have not seen any of your work you are not one and there have no credit or the right to bag anyone pulling apart ****ty code)..
So until there is transparency from bottom up by the developers of these machine, then those that are doing their best to at least improve it should be given some credit..

There are numerous examples of **** box's released that have never had code released, as an example the atv1200 .. no kernel codes, and very limited Android core codes released.. thus development was never going to take off and they died a natural death as you can only do so much..
You only have to look over to the tf700 thread and see what Tim has achieved by having SOURCE CODE/DRIVERS..

Actually, comes to mind.. didn't we have a guy doing a crowd funding for some units he was going to make.. how that go?

Anyway PK..you keep banging away on your drum and there are plenty here waiting for you to step up to the plate and provide a true working Fresh ROM for peer review.. or are you just a lurker that had no real skills apart from dropping snide remarks around the threads?
 
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pa.ko

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Yes Im developer but not amateur and thus not doing anything here on XDA. Here I just like around and look how some areas are going, looking for new ideas and technical hints. So I don't bite your provocation to provide you something good for free.

From the beginning this all thing was managed wrong. Starting from Chinese crappy product and with that young and inexperienced guy Malaysk who did it all wrong. And you and few others like you helped him to waste time and get to this dead end.

Instead pushing him to learn true Android skills, to learn reverse engineering and spend year or so in truly mastering this units, you applauded him and encouraged him in cosmetics in wasting time on visual appearance and other wasteful and functionaly irrelevant things. And he wasted too much time to face with inevitable: there always will be someone whose taste is different. And we know how emotional he is about his totally amateurish boot logo...

So you helped him to fail. And now you are angry as we all see this is dead end. Yes, LP is Frankenstein full of bugs and empty of functionalities. And he is incapable solving that. As you wasted his enthusiasm on crap.

I tried to help him understand what he should do and what way to go. But he had no capacity to understand and few of you helped him to go wrong way by small donations and loud applauding.

I wonder if you are short-sighted or just like someone else here is working for Chinese's?

Only they have interest noone reverse engineer these units and allow people with existing HW get good new ROM! Which is technically possible. And yes I know that as I'm very profound in such things.
 

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Great...
If you have ever run a team of coders then you know the time and effort it takes..

And yes, we are in agreement on that the 'Original' base is full of bugs..

So leave it alone and move on as until you put forward your own fix's then carry no cred but come off of just another keyboard warrior..

And yes, I have worked in Silicon valley and China with coders so I am comfortable calling you out on your attitude in these forums.. as you are carrying on with personal attacks on the only developer that has put forward any work on these forums in English and dared to open himself to guys like yourself.

Fine you have posted other Russians work and thats all good too..

Fundamental rule ... learn by mistakes .. and keep on learning..thus this is what these pieces of equipment are..

As stated in other threads.. good things are happening in this area so a few years from now your ranting is mote..
 
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