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It appears OnePlus still has not released OOS 12 Kernel source. (<-- Github link)

See these issue links in particular:

Where are the DTS in the OOS12 kernel source?

GPL Violation: OOS12 kernel_oneplus_sm8250 sources have not been released

I linked to two of these issues, there are a ton of them actually, they are scattered across Github, across many devices. Then again across many Reddit threads. OnePlus apprently doesn't care about GPL and doesn't care about releasing the code as they are supposed to.
OnePlus released GPL parts of the kernel source already. They do it in the most minimally legal, maximally scummy way possible. They're so far gone from the ideals that made them successful in the beginning, its sad. Hopefully people will stop giving them money

Edit: Seems like they unpinned the repo and started ignoring that too, https://github.com/OnePlusOSS/OpenSourceReleases/wiki/OnePlus-8T , nevermind. Burn em to the ground
 

exthomeboy

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Why is there still no Lineage 19 available for the oneplus 8t?
If you're reading this, you'll probably get even angrier 😄

 

Tuvix1

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If you're reading this, you'll probably get even angrier 😄

Yes I know. That's why I wonder why there's still no lineage 19 for the 8t 😅
 

OhioYJ

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Why is there still no Lineage 19 available for the oneplus 8t?

Probably because people are essentially still complaining about it.... It's kind of like asking for ETAs.

Lineage Stats. The 8T is fairly low on the list compared to the say the 5T, or the 6T, or the 9, 9 Pro, other devices that have been mentioned.... I'd say be happy with the support we've got.

There's even a donate in the OP, if you really want to say thanks. Just make sure it's it's a donation / thank you, not a bounty for a LOS 19.

For now we got LOS 18 we, at least it works well.
 

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Probably because people are essentially still complaining about it.... It's kind of like asking for ETAs.

Lineage Stats. The 8T is fairly low on the list compared to the say the 5T, or the 6T, or the 9, 9 Pro, other devices that have been mentioned.... I'd say be happy with the support we've got.

There's even a donate in the OP, if you really want to say thanks. Just make sure it's it's a donation / thank you, not a bounty for a LOS 19.

For now we got LOS 18 we, at least it works well.
ngl but stats are really irrelevant here.
 

thefanum

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Hey Luk , I have S12 which is Color OS and since it is COS , Oppo , and Vivo lock there bootloader and there is no Custom roming for these 2 brands or unlocking the boot loader, is that what's happening to the 8t , 👋
Are you asking if the bootloader was retroactively locked? OnePlus does not lock bootloaders. Never have. The cell carriers who offer OnePlus phones do, but they also offer unlock codes when certain criteria are met.

Not to mention, that's not how bootloader locking works. If the bootloader is unlockable, it will be that way out of the factory OR it will be unlockable, but require an unlock code from the manufacturer to accomplish the unlock. So that they can enforce certain stipulations (phone paid off, phone bill fully paid etc).

So the only way a company can make a previously bootloader unlockable phone no longer unlockable, they have to start out as the models that require an unlock code, and then stop offering the unlock codes. But they can't make a phone, which has never needed an unlock code (like every non carrier OnePlus), no longer bootloader unlockable. As far as I'm aware.

And judging by the response huawei got when they stopped offering bootloader unlock codes on their previously unlockable phones, I doubt any companies will be trying that again soon.

I am no expert, and I'm not a developer, just a phone hacking enthusiast, so take this next theory with a grain of salt. If I had to guess why the 8T is not getting a lot of development attention, it's because developers don't care about oneplus like they used to. People often focus on the unlockable bootloader, and forget that that does zero good if the device doesn't have a development community who wants to invest hundreds of hours into making awesome tools for us. Like custom recoveries, custom firmware, and every other aspect of the ecosystem that the company themselves won't create.

In the beginning, one plus was very developer friendly. They work with the custom firmware community, and even when they stopped working directly with the community they continued to be supportive of it. None of that is true any longer. They are now an active hurdle to custom firmware development. They are not posting the code they are legally supposed to, and when they do it's often late and incomplete. Which means the developers have to work 10 times harder to make anything work, or they can just develop for pixels or other more supportive brands.

Unless things changed dramatically at oneplus, this is just a taste of how bad things will get. So enjoy this, it's probably the best our oneplus devices will ever be, custom firmware wise. It's all down hill from here
 

OhioYJ

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And judging by the response huawei got when they stopped offering bootloader unlock codes on their previously unlockable phones, I doubt any companies will be trying that again soon.

Yeah, I had two Honor 5xs, got unlock codes from Huawei, also last Huawei devices I ever bought.

In the beginning, one plus was very developer friendly. They work with the custom firmware community, and even when they stopped working directly with the community they continued to be supportive of it. None of that is true any longer. They are now an active hurdle to custom firmware development. They are not posting the code they are legally supposed to, and when they do it's often late and incomplete. Which means the developers have to work 10 times harder to make anything work, or they can just develop for pixels or other more supportive brands.

Unless things changed dramatically at oneplus, this is just a taste of how bad things will get. So enjoy this, it's probably the best our oneplus devices will ever be, custom firmware wise. It's all down hill from here

The worst part is I don't think OnePlus realizes the extent of what they are doing. I realize "enthusiasts" that run custom software are a very small percentage of sales. It doesn't matter that most of us have a stack of OnePlus devices. However how many people around you have you recommended a OnePlus device to? Just recently I had my mom order a new OnePlus device, she just runs OOS, but it was a cheap, decent phone for her. As tech enthusiasts, people generally ask people like "us" what they should get. OnePlus can alienate whoever they want. However if the tech crowd switches brands, OnePlus's already pretty small slice of the pie is probably going to get smaller...

/off topic rant....
 

thefanum

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Yeah, I had two Honor 5xs, got unlock codes from Huawei, also last Huawei devices I ever bought.



The worst part is I don't think OnePlus realizes the extent of what they are doing. I realize "enthusiasts" that run custom software are a very small percentage of sales. It doesn't matter that most of us have a stack of OnePlus devices. However how many people around you have you recommended a OnePlus device to? Just recently I had my mom order a new OnePlus device, she just runs OOS, but it was a cheap, decent phone for her. As tech enthusiasts, people generally ask people like "us" what they should get. OnePlus can alienate whoever they want. However if the tech crowd switches brands, OnePlus's already pretty small slice of the pie is probably going to get smaller...

/off topic rant....
Yep, I'm offering free LineageOS conversions for the 5 people I know personally who were dumb enough to listen to me about buying OnePlus phones. Seems like the least I can do.

And I can't back this up with any figures or facts, but I really think we built OnePlus. Yes, we're a very small fraction of the user base, but between all the free publicity we collectively gave them online, the cool things we did with the phones that got them major publicity, and the personal recommendations we gave out to people who trusted us because we are often the only (or one of a few) people in their lives who know tech, I think OnePlus is one of the few times we helped change the technology industry directly.

And all we have to show for it is this polished turd.
 
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@OhioYJ and @thefanum Only slightly going to keep this Off Topic going. I agree OnePlus is no longer Dev friendly like they used to be, and there are many reasons to support this conclusion which includes the fact that the Kernel Source Code issue started in OP5 times (Example of how long this exact subject has been an issue https://community.oneplus.com/thread?id=457370). Also enthusiasts did build OnePlus, after all OnePlus' Official OS was CyanogenOS which was the corporatized version of CyanogenMod (you can read the history of that mess here https://www.androidauthority.com/cyanogenmod-lineageos-654810/).

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Forgot to thank @LuK1337 for his hard work all these years on the OnePlus phones I had to support for my family and myself.
 
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thefanum

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@OhioYJ and @thefanum Only slightly going to keep this Off Topic going. I agree OnePlus is no longer Dev friendly like they used to be, and there are many reasons to support this conclusion which includes the fact that the Kernel Source Code issue started in OP5 times (that was when the nightmare really started being obvious I noticed). Also enthusiasts did build OnePlus, after all OnePlus' Official OS was CyanogenOS which was the corporatized version of CyanogenMod (you can read the history of that mess here https://www.androidauthority.com/cyanogenmod-lineageos-654810/).
Yep, good call. Let's get this thread back on track. Sorry @LuK1337, collective venting completed. We all appreciate you, especially since OnePlus is making it an increasingly uphill battle. We're very lucky, and grateful, you're still willing to deal with all this BS to bring us awesome custom firmwares.
 

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sorry to perpetuate the rant - perhaps a question for LuK1337 and others who are considering their next phones - which one should we be preparing to move to?

what experience do you have besides Oneplus, and would any of the ones listed here be your top pick?



my concern is whether pixels are probably even smaller in production numbers and dev community? is there any easy way to compare the development activity by brand and over time (eg github profile)?
 
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@ewong3 I can confirm the Pixel 6 Pro (that's what I moved to from here) has a slightly smaller XDA footprint than the OP8T did. But in terms of how long it is actually taking to get to a point of really starting to move, I'd say it's at the same point OP8T was at its' peak. As for non-subjective ways to tell, my guess would be a week study checking each day to see how much it has grown over the last 24hrs, that's usually how I do it with just released phones.
 

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    There are already oos 12 firmware based roms available so I asked if LOS 19 is coming soon or not.

    It appears OnePlus still has not released OOS 12 Kernel source. (<-- Github link)

    See these issue links in particular:

    Where are the DTS in the OOS12 kernel source?

    GPL Violation: OOS12 kernel_oneplus_sm8250 sources have not been released

    I linked to two of these issues, there are a ton of them actually, they are scattered across Github, across many devices. Then again across many Reddit threads. OnePlus apprently doesn't care about GPL and doesn't care about releasing the code as they are supposed to.