[ROM][OFFICIAL][kebab][11] LineageOS 18.1

[thefanum]

sorry to perpetuate the rant - perhaps a question for LuK1337 and others who are considering their next phones - which one should we be preparing to move to?

what experience do you have besides Oneplus, and would any of the ones listed here be your top pick?

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my concern is whether pixels are probably even smaller in production numbers and dev community? is there any easy way to compare the development activity by brand and over time (eg github profile)?

I wouldn't trust any article that lists a Samsung phone as a "great phone for modding" without significant disclaimers. Samsungs can sometimes be unlocked, but it's always the crappy processor, non US/CAN models, or a paid service. Both have significant drawbacks. And last I checked, the dev community for Samsung devices is terrible, as Samsung intentionally killed it off when they started locking bootloaders after the note4.

The real answer to your question is probably there isn't a true replacement for OnePlus devices, modding wise. The Essential phone was supposed to be, but flopped immediately. The Nothing phone is supposed to be, but I'm not super optimistic.

Pixel phones are pretty much the only alternative. They have unlockable bootloaders, timely kernel sources (I think?), and a good development community. Unfortunately I'm not a fan of the hardware, but at least there's a backup plan.

There's other hackable phones. But none that hit that sweet spot that OnePlus phones used to.

And yes, you can check the actual amount of development being done on LineageOS behind the scenes, but I've never found that to necessarily correlate to the actual health of the development community. I think checking here on XDA by phone model is probably a better way to get a feel for the development community and their investment in said device.

Personally, I'm going to ride my 8t into the ground and reassess in a year or two. Hopefully things will have improved for any brand/device by then

 

[LuK1337]

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@OhioYJ and @thefanum Only slightly going to keep this Off Topic going. I agree OnePlus is no longer Dev friendly like they used to be, and there are many reasons to support this conclusion which includes the fact that the Kernel Source Code issue started in OP5 times (Example of how long this exact subject has been an issue https://community.oneplus.com/thread?id=457370). Also enthusiasts did build OnePlus, after all OnePlus' Official OS was CyanogenOS which was the corporatized version of CyanogenMod (you can read the history of that mess here https://www.androidauthority.com/cyanogenmod-lineageos-654810/).

***Edit***
Forgot to thank @LuK1337 for his hard work all these years on the OnePlus phones I had to support for my family and myself.

I honestly don't recall OnePlus ever being dev friendly, at least during the time I've been using their devices, but ok. To me, basically nothing changed, except kernel source takes half a year to get released. But at least OOS 12 blobs are easier to work with, I guess.

 

[ewong3]

I wouldn't trust any article that lists a Samsung phone as a "great phone for modding" without significant disclaimers. Samsungs can sometimes be unlocked, but it's always the crappy processor, non US/CAN models, or a paid service. Both have significant drawbacks. And last I checked, the dev community for Samsung devices is terrible, as Samsung intentionally killed it off when they started locking bootloaders after the note4.

The real answer to your question is probably there isn't a true replacement for OnePlus devices, modding wise. The Essential phone was supposed to be, but flopped immediately. The Nothing phone is supposed to be, but I'm not super optimistic.

Pixel phones are pretty much the only alternative. They have unlockable bootloaders, timely kernel sources (I think?), and a good development community. Unfortunately I'm not a fan of the hardware, but at least there's a backup plan.

There's other hackable phones. But none that hit that sweet spot that OnePlus phones used to.

And yes, you can check the actual amount of development being done on LineageOS behind the scenes, but I've never found that to necessarily correlate to the actual health of the development community. I think checking here on XDA by phone model is probably a better way to get a feel for the development community and their investment in said device.

Personally, I'm going to ride my 8t into the ground and reassess in a year or two. Hopefully things will have improved for any brand/device by then

alternatively xda gives good idea of dev activity:

just now vs google:

so indeed, p6p is the top phone to go for, but op9p/op8p/op8t also not bad - perhaps all op needs to do is just don't release too many variants to dilute its own dev community resources!

 

[thefanum]

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I honestly don't recall OnePlus ever being dev friendly, at least during the time I've been using their devices, but ok. To me, basically nothing changed, except kernel source takes half a year to get released. But at least OOS 12 blobs are easier to work with, I guess.

That's fair. I knew things started going downhill when they killed the cyanogenMod collaboration, but it sounds like it was a faster decline than I realized. And I knew it was over when they stopped sending free phones to devs.

 

[LuK1337]

alternatively xda gives good idea of dev activity:
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just now vs google:
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so indeed, p6p is the top phone to go for, but op9p/op8p/op8t also not bad - perhaps all op needs to do is just don't release too many variants to dilute its own dev community resources!

Let me know what phone you'll end up buying :^)

 

[thefanum]

I don't know if anyone else was having the issue of the OS forgetting your default launcher (in my case Nova) the August 18 update *SEEMS* to have fixed it.

I'll report back if it pops up again.

 

[OTAx1]

As of today, Updater is reporting LOS 19.1 available for 8T : )

 

[Dior DNA]

As of today, Updater is reporting LOS 19.1 available for 8T : )

OOS12 firmware based if I read well, if not, please correct me.

 

[OhioYJ]

OOS12 firmware based if I read well, if not, please correct me.

It is. The instructions say you must be on Android 12 firmware. However anyone know how to get to Android 12 firmware without going back to stock? (I know how to flash it if I could obtain it.... ) It's not on OnePlus's site... Oxygen Updater, in advanced mode says I can download KB2005_11_C.11, then download updates via incrementals?

 

[LuK1337]

It is. The instructions say you must be on Android 12 firmware. However anyone know how to get to Android 12 firmware without going back to stock? (I know how to flash it if I could obtain it.... ) It's not on OnePlus's site... Oxygen Updater, in advanced mode says I can download KB2005_11_C.11, then download updates via incrementals?

Flash KB2003 FW and you'll be fine.

 

[OhioYJ]

Flash KB2003 FW and you'll be fine.

Thank you! That one has KB2003_11C.33 available, no issues. Just in case (that's the EU 8T if anyone is wondering)

Few links from the Lineage Wiki that maybe handy:

Update firmware on kebab

Upgrade to a higher version of LineageOS (e.g. lineage-18.1 -> lineage-19.1)

Install LineageOS on kebab

 

[thefanum]

I don't know if anyone else was having the issue of the OS forgetting your default launcher (in my case Nova) the August 18 update *SEEMS* to have fixed it.

I'll report back if it pops up again.

Nevermind, I spoke too soon. Lineage OS 18.1 is still periodically forgetting the default launcher. At least on the new update it has stopped defaulting to trebuchet, and started asking if I want to select Nova or trebuchet when it happens. Which is significantly less annoying.

Would still love a fix, if anyone has any ideas.

 

[Dior DNA]

Flash KB2003 FW and you'll be fine.

What a relief ... Kudos @LuK1337 !

Finally a 1+8T OOS12 firmware based open source custom ROM I can seamlessly build myself.

I was running Nameless (which is not open source) and I tried building AICP (but failed, which most probably is caused by my somewhat atypical environment).

But LOS ... : I can build just fine ... the documented build recipe is accurate.

Previously I could also build 1+8T PE+ A12, but then, that ROM is still OOS11 firmware based and no longer maintained...

On any device (computer, router, mediaplayer, phone, tablet, whatever...) I own I prefer to run software I (as somewhat n00b) can build myself. This, for me, is proof of well developer maintained and well developer documented software.

LOS 19.1 is my only and also best up to date choice for 1+8T device today.

 

[thefanum]

Ok, so I'm loving this ROM. I am dealing with two minor annoyances that are apparently too broad keyword wise to Google, so I'm hoping someone in here has a tip.

1. LineageOS keeps forgetting my default launcher. I use Nova, fully up to date, and it sometimes offers to let me choose between it and trebuchet when it forgets, and sometimes just defaults to trebuchet. No matter how many times I set Nova to default, it still forgets within a day or two.

2. It's behaving like I hit the back gesture multiple times, using gesture navigation. Even when it's clearly one single gesture. It's not consistent, and seems to happen at random, but works as expected, most of the time. It happens in all apps, and within the OS itself.

I've tried using all three different "back gesture" sensitivity options. Didn't seem to effect anything.

Thanks in advance

 

[Dior DNA]

Flash KB2003 FW and you'll be fine.

The build.prop files have model=KB2005 ... so Oxygen updater today mentions image KB2005_11_C.35 for download. Would it be safe for me as root to change build.prop files to have model=KB2003 in order make Oxygen updater look for KB05BA EU images instead?

 

[LuK1337]

The build.prop files have model=KB2005 ... so Oxygen updater today mentions image KB2005_11_C.35 for download. Would it be safe for me as root to change build.prop files to have model=KB2003 in order make Oxygen updater look for KB05BA EU images instead?

...you could always just look at oxygen updater settings.

 

[Dior DNA]

...you could always just look at oxygen updater settings.

Right ! Thanks, I changed Device to be Oneplus 8T (EU)

 

[thefanum]

Is 18.1 still getting new build?

 

[AviH0]

Hey,
I recently upgraded from 18.1 to 19.1 and it looks like usb otg stopped working. I'm relatively certain it previously worked for me on 18.1.
Currently if I try to connect a usb flash drive or a wireless mouse the phone does not respond to the connection at all.
Can anyone confirm if it works for them on 19.1 (I'm on the latest build)?

 

[thefanum]

I'm trying to compile 18.1 from source, and I've got everything working, pulled blobs from my existing LineageOS 18.1 OnePlus 8t phone via adb, but it's still saying there's stuff missing at compile time (blobs).

Should this be working? Or should I just find a stock firmware file and use the extraction method? Or is there a repo with them somewhere?

Thanks in advance!