[ROM][UPDATE] optimusXrom v1.1 for Optimus One based on Android 2.2

zeu55

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I am sorry for the typing mistakes and lead to your misunderstanding
Maybe due to the reason of using a class 4 only sdcard, when I ext3->ext4 and flashing the rom, it is found that the storage memory is only about 145MB left while I would have about 19xMB in using Prime-V2 rom.

I did an experiment yesterday in skipping the step ext3->ext4, flashing your rom with ext3 partition in the sdcard. It happened to be successfully enabling app2sd+ as I can see 19xMB for the storage memory in the very beginning.

Is this due to my low class sdcard?
I am sorry that my language is little bit hard to understand.
Thank you for your nice rom and reply.
same thing happened for me also.. i was using a class 2 4GB card. and after i have done ext3 to ext4 and then i applied the ROM.. after installing it showed only 145 MB in my internal memory.. so i am using Megatron ( memory 190 MB) .. i am going to try ur method .. i hope u r right that somehow its not applicable for lower class card or there is some fault in the ROM
 

borg17a

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I have the same Problem!

same thing happened for me also.. i was using a class 2 4GB card. and after i have done ext3 to ext4 and then i applied the ROM.. after installing it showed only 145 MB in my internal memory.. so i am using Megatron ( memory 190 MB) .. i am going to try ur method .. i hope u r right that somehow its not applicable for lower class card or there is some fault in the ROM
 

domenic_s

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But for what do you need the internal memory? I don't understand, because all apps are moved to sd...so you don't need free space on phone anymore.
 

zeu55

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Till why use phone memory when sd is available. By the way. I troed the method and it worked. Now having 191 mb left after installing 25 applications. Using this rom from yesterday.

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I didn't say that I could fill that up with those. I was just saying what could still be in the phone memory with dalvik-cache and /data/apps moved to the SD card.

you don't need a large phone memory for those...they will be automatically be in the sdcard, a folder will automatically appear on the sdcard.
And no, not everything will use the SD card for everthing. Using the memory card for everything like browser caching, message storage, and some other small stuff is bad for the card. Also, not all ROMs will do that. I don't even think this ROM will use the SD card for caching stuff on the SD card. Only the apps are moved on the card.
 

zeu55

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I didn't say that I could fill that up with those. I was just saying what could still be in the phone memory with dalvik-cache and /data/apps moved to the SD card.



And no, not everything will use the SD card for everthing. Using the memory card for everything like browser caching, message storage, and some other small stuff is bad for the card. Also, not all ROMs will do that. I don't even think this ROM will use the SD card for caching stuff on the SD card. Only the apps are moved on the card.
i support ...only to move apps and dalvik cache to sd so that memory never runs out of space after installing 100 apps...
 

Asuma06

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I didn't say that I could fill that up with those. I was just saying what could still be in the phone memory with dalvik-cache and /data/apps moved to the SD card.



And no, not everything will use the SD card for everthing. Using the memory card for everything like browser caching, message storage, and some other small stuff is bad for the card. Also, not all ROMs will do that. I don't even think this ROM will use the SD card for caching stuff on the SD card. Only the apps are moved on the card.

And why would it be bad for the sdcard? did you know why most custom ROM has the apps install directly to the sd is to make the OS run faster and efficient.
 

donytsang

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But for what do you need the internal memory? I don't understand, because all apps are moved to sd...so you don't need free space on phone anymore.
No that simple actually. Because for everytime I install an app it is eventually installed in the internal memory, somehow the app2sd+ cannot function as I try to use quick system info to have a look on the ext partition on the sdcard, it cannot be recognized.

So that I would assume the ext partition cannot be recognized and then the apps will be automatically installed in the internal memory, which will eventually be used up.

But the rom is nice and I just keep using ext2 for this rom, and it runs fawlessly.
Would it be something different if I use ext2 in this rom? Slower?
Thank you for your work, it is really nice that I really love it.
 
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And why would it be bad for the sdcard? did you know why most custom ROM has the apps install directly to the sd is to make the OS run faster and efficient.
Again, no. The purpose of Darktremor Apps2sd is to be able to move entire application packages to an ext partition on the SD card to save space. It does that using symbolic links.

The reason why ROM cookers suggest you use a card that's at least class 6 is because of SPEED.

If you use the sd card for everything (caching, sms, contacts, anything), you're killing so much read and write cycles, which is basically the card's health. Also, considering speed, writing data (specially those many tiny files which applies to caching) is much slower than writing to the phone's internal memory. In short, if you use apps that constantly writes files (web browser for instance. dolphin hd supports caching to sd), and it writes that to the sd card, there will be absolutely no point of your system being fast since it will choke on writing those files.

Lastly, speed isn't all about free space. Files that just sit there don't do any speed penalties to the overall system, as long as there is sufficient space for the system to do its thing.

Even if that were true, having even 1TB of internal memory won't speed up your phone. At all.

domenic_s said:
No, actually ext2 is faster than ext3 ... i don't know how it is to ext4 but i'm using ext2 at the moment.
That's because ext3 is a journaling file system, and ext2 isn't. Journalizing helps prevent file errors and stuff, but requires a few more writes to the card :) Also, http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/A+Comparison+of+Ext2,+Ext3+and+Ext4+Performance
 
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prodikey

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Dom, thanks for the ROM
A quick question: how to enabled the apps2SD.

I have set my SD to ext2 partition 32 swap and 512MB but noticed that in Titanium backup it shown:
Internal 209MB (156MB free)
SD Card 7.41 GB (5.74GB free)
SD Card (a2SD) 100MB (51.9MB free)

Anything that I need to do so that able to get the 512MB

Thanks Dom.
 
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Asuma06

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Again, no. The purpose of Darktremor Apps2sd is to be able to move entire application packages to an ext partition on the SD card to save space. It does that using symbolic links.

The reason why ROM cookers suggest you use a card that's at least class 6 is because of SPEED.

If you use the sd card for everything (caching, sms, contacts, anything), you're killing so much read and write cycles, which is basically the card's health. Also, considering speed, writing data (specially those many tiny files which applies to caching) is much slower than writing to the phone's internal memory. In short, if you use apps that constantly writes files (web browser for instance. dolphin hd supports caching to sd), and it writes that to the sd card, there will be absolutely no point of your system being fast since it will choke on writing those files.

Lastly, speed isn't all about free space. Files that just sit there don't do any speed penalties to the overall system, as long as there is sufficient space for the system to do its thing.

Even if that were true, having even 1TB of internal memory won't speed up your phone. At all.



That's because ext3 is a journaling file system, and ext2 isn't. Journalizing helps prevent file errors and stuff, but requires a few more writes to the card :) Also, http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/A+Comparison+of+Ext2,+Ext3+and+Ext4+Performance
So, If your Mr. Know it all....make your own custom ROM and stop complaining.