ROM'S - Opinion and questions!

smgulsby

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I little background on me; I have been rooting phones for several years. Original Iphone, Iphone 3g, Palm Pre twice (humble opinion the best OS ever), HTC Aria, now arguably the best combination of hardware and software the Motorola Atrix 2.
I've tried each of the available ROM'S and I've settled on RebelROM. First and foremost its ease of install. Secondly butter smooth, debloated and great interface.
My question is this, why are the other ROM'S restores and not flashable? How can a novice with minimal time(7 kids, not all at home. 3 grandkids. Mother who is sick and I work nights) help? I have no coding background but I am tenacious.

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Gadgetz

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Good choice! I too prefer it, not necessarily due to installation cause they're all easy to install but cause of the look, feel, smoothness, and minimalistic nature of it. It just feels right!

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If you want to help, you could PM a developer and ask about beta testing.

The reason that some ROMs come in a CWM backup is because it makes the ROM a bit easier to distribute and it removes the problem of symbolic linking. Symbolic linking is pretty much telling Android that file "a" is going to be an exact mirror to file "b"... which is all fine and good, however in a flashable zip the developer needs to figure out all the different symbolic links and make sure that they are linked after the guts of the ROM is copied over... for example the reason that some ROMs didn't have hardware buttons working is because the flashable zip didn't create a symbolic link that was necessary for hardware buttons. I think that flashable zips are the best way to distribute a ROM, however the developer will have to figure out all the necessary links.
 
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smgulsby

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My concern with beta testing is this is my only phone. If I could be assured that I can recover without the need for a computer, then I'm loving this.

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smgulsby

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well... you CAN recover. Without a computer? Nope. However it is quite easy.
Yes I have had to recover several times over several different phones, twice on this Atrix alone. My problem is that with my schedule I only have access to our computer for about an hour in the afternoon. Working nights make this just when I get up.

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KEB64

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CWM Recovery on boot? I haven't had to use it yet but it gives me that warm fuzzy feeling that everything will be alright. That and a known working backup on my SD card.

Running RebelRom Beta 3
 
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smgulsby

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CWM Recovery on boot? I haven't had to use it yet but it gives me that warm fuzzy feeling that everything will be alright. That and a known working backup on my SD card.

Running RebelRom Beta 3
Can you tell me how to set that up?

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kindacrazyazn

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Can you tell me how to set that up?

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Go to that page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20165878&postcount=1

Download the first file at the bottom of the post. Then follow the instructions exactly where it says "Full Install Step." make sure to do all the steps and not skip anything otherwise it won't. if you have any more questions let me know.

If you go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554579
This link is the thread in our Atrix 2 forums and it does mention some bugs. I personally experienced the GPS one and i stopped using it. but it is up to you. it is definitely a good idea in case you do mess up.
 
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KEB64

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You beat me to it crazyazn. Oh, and I am sacrificing GPS having this installed. I make sure and have the remove script on hand if I run into an emergency where I need GPS. It has been said by Jim Bridgman that this shouldn't effect GPS but it seems to for me and some others. If I remember there are cases where GPS is re-gained. I can't remember where the posts are right now.

Running RebelRom Beta 3
 
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Gadgetz

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You beat me to it crazyazn. Oh, and I am sacrificing GPS having this installed. I make sure and have the remove script on hand if I run into an emergency where I need GPS. It has been said by Jim Bridgman that this shouldn't effect GPS but it seems to for me and some others. If I remember there are cases where GPS is re-gained. I can't remember where the posts are right now.

Running RebelRom Beta 3
GPS is working fine for me and im on Beta 3 also. At first it didnt work for me, heard cwm on boot could have been the cause so I ran the removal script and gps worked but I lost my oc in the process. Ended up wiping everything and doing a fresh install of the ROM, v2, confirmed functional gps, restored my apps and reflashed cwm on boot and gps still worked. But my calendar wouldnt sync....did a factory reset via cwm and everything works, including my oc, cwm on boot, gps and calendar sync.



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farshad525hou

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CWM Recovery on boot? I haven't had to use it yet but it gives me that warm fuzzy feeling that everything will be alright. That and a known working backup on my SD card.

Running RebelRom Beta 3
I wouldn't rely on that as your PRIMARY recovery option... If you truly brick your phone CWM at boot may not work...
 

kindacrazyazn

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You beat me to it crazyazn. Oh, and I am sacrificing GPS having this installed. I make sure and have the remove script on hand if I run into an emergency where I need GPS. It has been said by Jim Bridgman that this shouldn't effect GPS but it seems to for me and some others. If I remember there are cases where GPS is re-gained. I can't remember where the posts are right now.

Running RebelRom Beta 3
I am not really sure why the GPS has issues but i know that everytime i flashed the recovery on boot. So i kind of just stopped using it all together. I love the concept of it because that is how my old phone was. I didn't know about the removal flash of it until today. And i didn't know that there were people who were able to regain it.
 

Gadgetz

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Yeah its weird, not exactly logical as to why it didnt work the first time around. But I still have cwm on boot on my phone and my gps works fine.

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KEB64

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GPS is working fine for me and im on Beta 3 also. At first it didnt work for me, heard cwm on boot could have been the cause so I ran the removal script and gps worked but I lost my oc in the process. Ended up wiping everything and doing a fresh install of the ROM, v2, confirmed functional gps, restored my apps and reflashed cwm on boot and gps still worked. But my calendar wouldnt sync....did a factory reset via cwm and everything works, including my oc, cwm on boot, gps and calendar sync.



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So you are the soul I remember reading about this. Lets take this one step at a time please. First off, removing the script gave you GPS back AND returned you to normal clock speed. I would consider not using CWM on boot after a few more days with this new ROM. So far so good stability wise. How about I just overclock with Rom Toolbox if I need to? My calendar is syncing fine and the only other bugs a a few very minor turning issues in some apps like buttons. Other than that the ROM suits me. A few screenshots showing off...





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Gadgetz

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So you are the soul I remember reading about this. Lets take this one step at a time please. First off, removing the script gave you GPS back AND returned you to normal clock speed. I would consider not using CWM on boot after a few more days with this new ROM. So far so good stability wise. How about I just overclock with Rom Toolbox if I need to? My calendar is syncing fine and the only other bugs a a few very minor turning issues in some apps like buttons. Other than that the ROM suits me.
No...running the cwm on boot script removed the oc....I reflashed the rom in it's stock form and gps was working again....but it's been said cwm on boot is baked in to the rom, I can't confirm or deny that but my testing is telling me it's not, but i'm no expert.

So I confirmed the status of gps after every flash of a mod to see what was causing it to malfunction but to my surprise I was able to flash all my mods and gps has not been sacrificed. Doesn't make sense to me but i'm not complaining. I have my phone all setup up nicely how I want it, gotten rid of the excessive apps and what not so as soon as this backup is done i'm gonna give the Atrix Blaze v3 ROM a shot.
 

KEB64

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Well this is not making sense. I have CWM on boot. I've had it for a while. I had it before installing RebelRom. It appears I have retained my OC. Rom Toolbox wouldn't lie, would it?


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