[Root][4.4.2 ND7]GhettoRoot (Towelroot port) v0.3.2

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Believe me, I'm gladder than you're glad. [/LOL]
Seriously, I hope the comments above are of some use. I don't understand why this phone resisted receiving BusyBox and SuperSU, but the GhettoRoot above at least survived the refusal and let Root Checker confirm the phone really is rooted. Since then, of course, I'm doing all the root stuff I want to. Finally, I got really, really brave and rebooted the phone... still rooted. Whew!
The one NetworkingPro put out was the one that worked for me multiple times on the note 2. Glad your rooted.
 
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It certainly made my day.

Two things remain mysteries: 1) why did the phone refuse to let ghettoroot install SuperSU and BusyBox, and 2) what the heck is "[DEBUG] get_root:535: YOU ARE A SCARY DEVICE" all about?

I got around 1) by installing SuperSU and BusyBox from Play Store once the phone rebooted and Root Checker said the phone was rooted.

Item 2) still bothers me.

Now on to the really fun part: updating to Lollipop. If I read things correctly, I'm going to have to get the bootloader to cooperate. I've talked to the TWRP guys and I have the feeling this part of the project have me closer to bricking the phone. Oh my.
 

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It certainly made my day.

Two things remain mysteries: 1) why did the phone refuse to let ghettoroot install SuperSU and BusyBox, and 2) what the heck is "[DEBUG] get_root:535: YOU ARE A SCARY DEVICE" all about?

I got around 1) by installing SuperSU and BusyBox from Play Store once the phone rebooted and Root Checker said the phone was rooted.

Item 2) still bothers me.

Now on to the really fun part: updating to Lollipop. If I read things correctly, I'm going to have to get the bootloader to cooperate. I've talked to the TWRP guys and I have the feeling this part of the project have me closer to bricking the phone. Oh my.
My understanding is that our bootloaders are locked on ND7 and we can use safestrap recovery to flash touchwiz 4.4.2 roms only.
 
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Sigh... Movie over.

Trying to install TWRP, I earned my phone the Yellow Triangle of Death. At this point, all I have is Download mode and Odin. Since the bootloader is locked, any attempt to do a NAND Write fails. Any attempt to get to Recovery brings me to the yellow triangle.

Some days you're dog, some days you're the tree. I'm feeling more than a little over-watered and hate the sight of dogs with raised legs. In my world, the color yellow is no longer a happy color.
 

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I'm happy to say I beat this problem with a stick. The process was brutally ugly but it worked out. It starts with this video from Root Junky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qtbEevn1VA. But things didn't quite work out. At the very end, the process tanked with, on the phone, a message saying "bad magic string". The good news is I didn't get the VZW Yellow Triangle of Death. I got the Kies or some Samsung utilities Yellow Triangle of Death. Out of simple desperation, I tried the same process seen in the video but... I used the ND7 file instead of the MC3 file. I kept the 16G.pit file (maybe I didn't need to repartition, maybe I did). And the whole process passed, front to back. Even more amazing, my data is intact and so are the home screens. I did, however, lose root. I know how to root under ND7, so I'll do that next. And...

Root Checker gave me a scare and said the phone wasn't rooted. I had to install SuperSU first. The only thing this particular rooting process still doesn't do is install SuperSU and BusyBox. I can install them via Play Store, so it's not a real problem.
 
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Sigh... Movie over.

Trying to install TWRP, I earned my phone the Yellow Triangle of Death. At this point, all I have is Download mode and Odin. Since the bootloader is locked, any attempt to do a NAND Write fails. Any attempt to get to Recovery brings me to the yellow triangle.

Some days you're dog, some days you're the tree. I'm feeling more than a little over-watered and hate the sight of dogs with raised legs. In my world, the color yellow is no longer a happy color.
Hence the reason I told you our bootloaders are locked and can use safestrap recovery. Glad you got the phone back up and running though.
 
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Hence the reason I told you our bootloaders are locked and can use safestrap recovery. Glad you got the phone back up and running though.
Aw, jeeze - I must have slept through the SafeStrap comments. Mea culpa. NTL. I thought SafeStrap wasn't an option because of the locked up bootloader.

ADDED: I searched the thread for SafeStrap and got ~50 hits. Looking back to Dec., 14 I see your comments on SS. My general sense is that anything post-4.3 is working under a different set of rules (thanks to VZW) than before 4.4.2. So... SS still can be installed under 4.4.2?
 
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Aw, jeeze - I must have slept through the SafeStrap comments. Mea culpa. NTL. I thought SafeStrap wasn't an option because of the locked up bootloader.

ADDED: I searched the thread for SafeStrap and got ~50 hits. Looking back to Dec., 14 I see your comments on SS. My general sense is that anything post-4.3 is working under a different set of rules (thanks to VZW) than before 4.4.2. So... SS still can be installed under 4.4.2?
The safestrap to use for the Note 2 is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2704992
It states that it is for MJ9 but is tested and working fine on ND7. I have it installed and is working on my note 2 running stock (rooted) 4.4.2 ND7. However, remember that we can only flash TouchWiz 4.4.2 Roms.
 
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just got ghetto root to work. heres what i did. cleared cache and reset my phone to default. downloaded universal adb driver setup, android studio bundle which i dont even think finished installing, java developer (i still dont know what these are for, i guess they contain drivers?). i turned on usb debugging and plugged my phone into my computer (vista) and the phone said connected as installer. if you pick multimedia or camera this option goes away and you have to uncheck/check usb debugging again to get it to come up again. my computer saw my phone as some kind of verizon installation cd. i then ran the ghettoroot from the download provided by networkingpro. the first time it ran it finished and shut off real fast, too fast to read anything except something like thank you for using ghetto boot, enjoy. and my phone restarted. supersu wasnt on there so i downloaded it from the play store. a message in supersu came up saying something about it not working. so i deleted supersu and ran ghettoroot again. this time it stayed on the screen with the message that the phone will restart in 5-10 seconds. it did and when it booted back up supersu was there. i went into supersu and it said everything is good then i downloaded root checker. root checker said congratulations your phone is rooted.

idk what busybox is and its not on my phone. i didnt do any kind of back up. what am i supposed to do now? am i done? do i need a copy of the original rom? i didnt change the rom so idk. im a noob as you can tell. hope this info maybe helped someone a little and any advice is appreciated
 
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just got ghetto root to work. heres what i did. cleared cache and reset my phone to default. downloaded universal adb driver setup, android studio bundle which i dont even think finished installing, java developer (i still dont know what these are for, i guess they contain drivers?). i turned on usb debugging and plugged my phone into my computer (vista) and the phone said connected as installer. if you pick multimedia or camera this option goes away and you have to uncheck/check usb debugging again to get it to come up again. my computer saw my phone as some kind of verizon installation cd. i then ran the ghettoroot from the download provided by networkingpro. the first time it ran it finished and shut off real fast, too fast to read anything except something like thank you for using ghetto boot, enjoy. and my phone restarted. supersu wasnt on there so i downloaded it from the play store. a message in supersu came up saying something about it not working. so i deleted supersu and ran ghettoroot again. this time it stayed on the screen with the message that the phone will restart in 5-10 seconds. it did and when it booted back up supersu was there. i went into supersu and it said everything is good then i downloaded root checker. root checker said congratulations your phone is rooted.

idk what busybox is and its not on my phone. i didnt do any kind of back up. what am i supposed to do now? am i done? do i need a copy of the original rom? i didnt change the rom so idk. im a noob as you can tell. hope this info maybe helped someone a little and any advice is appreciated
Um, going back a bit, unless there's utterly no hope of doing it. loose Vista and get to Win7. That alone should make your life easier. OK, forward...

You didn't need to install SDK, etc. All you need is the Networking Pro GhettoRoot package and the PDA file. ADB is included in the package. If you've got SuperSU installed and your phone checks out with Root Checker, you're almost done. BusyBox is a collection of tools for the OS. You don't have to use them, but they are used by some other apps. BusyBox can be collected from Play Store, too. Install it. Then you're done.

Ignore the VZW "CD". When the window asking whether to run it or not shows up, do nothing but close the window. The contents are not your friend.

After that, some apps will ask for superuser permission. Titanium Backup, File Explorer, Root Checker, Clean Master all come to mind. If you see a request from an app you don't recognize, don't grant it SU! Please understand that rooting your phone removes a very important layer of protection from your phone. It's very easy to brick your phone directly, and there are people out there who are not your friend and want to ruin your day. If you're not good with that, maybe unrooting is in order?

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The safestrap to use for the Note 2 is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2704992
It states that it is for MJ9 but is tested and working fine on ND7. I have it installed and is working on my note 2 running stock (rooted) 4.4.2 ND7. However, remember that we can only flash TouchWiz 4.4.2 Roms.
The phone is rooted and running ND7. I'll give SafeStrap a try. What does this do, in the end, for opening the way to move to Lollipop?


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No joy with SafeStrap. It looks as though it installed but... I used TI to do a reboot and didn't see the SafeStrap screen. I used TI to reboot to recovery and got the standard recovery screen, not the SafeStrap recovery screen.

Either this phone is haunted or otherwise in deep digital disaster because things like SafeStrap simply refuse to work. The app is there, of course, and it looks all wonderfully SafeStrap-like. I just won't create a TWRP recovery under SafeStrap. For that matter, TWRP also refuses to install directly.

The phone is definitely an SCH-I605, and it's definitely using ND7.
 
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Thanks RBEmerson. I installed busybox. Do I need TWRP or clockwork? What about software update from samsung do I have to disable it somehow?
 

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You're welcome. I recommend upgrading to BusyBox Pro, and Root Check Pro, too. Titanium Backup is also very useful for backing up your phone's contents as well allowing you to freeze or delete bloatware and apps that check for OTA's. Again, pay for the full product. In my case, I don't have a need for their Media add-on - I passed on that.

TWRP, AFAIK, will not load up on this phone. I can't make it load and I worked with the developer on trying to sort that out. Instead, use SafeStrap, which includes a somewhat earlier TWRP. Clockwork (CWM) has the same problems as TWRP, or at least that's what happened here.

ADDED: I'll repeat my earlier caution: SafeStrap/TWRP, CWM, BusyBox, etc. all make it very easy to brick your phone. Be sure you know what you're doing before you push the "make it so" button.
 
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Um, going back a bit, unless there's utterly no hope of doing it. loose Vista and get to Win7. That alone should make your life easier. OK, forward...

You didn't need to install SDK, etc. All you need is the Networking Pro GhettoRoot package and the PDA file. ADB is included in the package. If you've got SuperSU installed and your phone checks out with Root Checker, you're almost done. BusyBox is a collection of tools for the OS. You don't have to use them, but they are used by some other apps. BusyBox can be collected from Play Store, too. Install it. Then you're done.

Ignore the VZW "CD". When the window asking whether to run it or not shows up, do nothing but close the window. The contents are not your friend.

After that, some apps will ask for superuser permission. Titanium Backup, File Explorer, Root Checker, Clean Master all come to mind. If you see a request from an app you don't recognize, don't grant it SU! Please understand that rooting your phone removes a very important layer of protection from your phone. It's very easy to brick your phone directly, and there are people out there who are not your friend and want to ruin your day. If you're not good with that, maybe unrooting is in order?

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The phone is rooted and running ND7. I'll give SafeStrap a try. What does this do, in the end, for opening the way to move to Lollipop?


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No joy with SafeStrap. It looks as though it installed but... I used TI to do a reboot and didn't see the SafeStrap screen. I used TI to reboot to recovery and got the standard recovery screen, not the SafeStrap recovery screen.

Either this phone is haunted or otherwise in deep digital disaster because things like SafeStrap simply refuse to work. The app is there, of course, and it looks all wonderfully SafeStrap-like. I just won't create a TWRP recovery under SafeStrap. For that matter, TWRP also refuses to install directly.

The phone is definitely an SCH-I605, and it's definitely using ND7.


After you install the safestrap app you have to open it and install the recovery. Once you installed recovery you just need to simply reboot the phone and you should see another splash screen now that gives you the option to tap Recovery (bottom left of screen) or tap Continue (bottom right of screen). Tap Recovery to get into safestrap recovery. You won't be able to use any of the reboot to recovery options from the shut down menu or from any other app that could boot into recovery. It just doesn't work that way with safestrap.
 
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I've installed SafeStrap on other phones and it's gone in without a fight. This time around, it just wouldn't go in. Looking back through my notes, I tried SafeStrap earlier, with the same results: the app looked like it was doing the install but rebooting didn't show the splash screen. Rebooting into recovery showed the stock recovery screen. SafeStrap may have thought it installed itself, but the phone disagreed. Until I did the cache wipe and yet another install from the SafeStrap app (not reinstalling from the .apk). SafeStrap is now very much in place and the splash screen shows up at boot-up.

Using TI to just reboot was ...um... doing something easy the hard way. OTOH, using TI to reboot into recovery was a way to avoid trying to get all the right buttons pushed at the right time. I didn't expect TI to make SafeStrap magically appear.
 

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so will safestrap make a copy of the stock rom? so that if i brick the phone i can boot into safe strap and do a recovery? is that the main purpose of it or will it only let me install a custom rom?
 

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I don't use custom ROM's, or at least not the radically custom ROM's. My goal is to have my phone current and be able to manage its software load (remove bloatware, etc.).

While I'm sure someone will disagree (and be right, into the deal), bricked as in "hard bricked", and not bootlooping or otherwise soft bricked, is bricked. "He's dead, Jim". Game over. You now own a spendy paperweight that doesn't do even that job well.

Um... y'know you're getting into questions that say "if you have to ask, you need to do some more studying". Don't take it personally. This isn't stuff you learn overnight. And some of it can just about only be learned the hard way (see my posts above, filled with grief and rage).

Good luck and keep on studying - this stuff can be fun when it works. [/grin]
 
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Yes, you can make a backup with safestrap and install TouchWiz 4.4.2 roms only.
thanks wolf. isnt the stock rom touchwiz? are you saying you can only run the stock rom from the stock rom slot or install other stock roms that are basically the same?

in a boot loop will the phone make it to the safestrap screen? and then be able to run recovery?

if it didnt you would just go into odin mode and flash a copy of the stock rom correct?

now that my phone is rooted can i do a factory reset if i wanted? (found alot of mixed info about this)

besides that im about to download and install safestrap. i have busybox and supersu. i was going to clear cache and run it from the download link in this thread that you recommended in an earlier post

does it look like im ready to go?
 

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TouchWiz is the name for Samusung's user interface on top of Android. It's not a ROM name.

Soft boot loops vary in behavior. There's no guarantee that what works in one case will work in another case. It hinges on how the loop was caused, what the phone's state was at the time, etc., etc. Will you see SafeStrap in this case? Maybe. It depends.

Odin may or may not save your day. In trying to get my Note 2 rooted and get SafeStrap in place, Odin didn't get the job done.

You can always do an FDR. Well, if you can get to the recovery screen, or boot up the phone. If not, you can't.

Clearing cache is IMHO always a good idea. It should never break anything, and it may well remove stuff that's not helpful. In short, can't hurt, might help.

The process is to d/l the .apk, make sure the phone will accept foreign, third-party, or unknown apps (be very sure to turn this back off after installing SafeStrap), and then install the app from the apk. From there, follow the instructions in the SafeStrap app.
 

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Oh, jumpin' jeebus, I've gone back and given myself the VZW Yellow Triangle of Death (YTD) again.

Let's stop here for a sanity check - I'm sure I'm seriously OT so if someone wants to shift this post to a better place, at least tell me where the thread went. Alright... onwards.

For whatever reason, trying to install TWRP (any recent rev.) brings out the YTD. TWRP Manager says TWRP installed but VZW hands out the YTD whether trying reach recovery or simply reboot.

I've gotten too good at restoring ND7: Under Odin, use a sch-i605.pit, included in a distro of MC3, and an md5 of ND7, and ND7 is back. Use the Networking Pro version of GhettoRoot and the phone is rooted. Re-install SuperSU (curiously, it goes away during the GhettoRoot run, but SuperSU Pro remains, although Pro is a dead loss without SuperSU installed), open SuperSU, load the binary, reboot, and open BusyBox Pro, install it, and all is well. Even the home page(s) remain the same. Use TI to re-freeze stuff that was frozen before ("freeze" goes away during re-installing ND7 and being rootless). Anyway...

Going to 4.4.4 means moving to CM11. Will SafeStrap (which uses an earlier TWRP) let me do that? Or, getting stupidly bold, will it let me use the CM12 Lollipop? I assume that of CM11 won't work, CM12 won't either. But ya never know...

ADDED: I mistakenly wrote that frozen items "defrost" during restoring to ND7. That's simply wrong. I had a brain burp after seeing NFL Mobile try to update for some reason. Odd, as I'd deleted, not frozen, the app. The take-away is "don't sweat frozen apps thawing out".
 
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