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Can I root if I'm on 5.1 (23.21.49.quark)?
If you installed that version (.49) via OTA, prior to unlocking the bootloader via sunshine, assuming you have the xt1254 (Droid Turbo), then you are out of luck. If you bought it used, you can check to see if the previous owner unlocked it but otherwise you would need to sell it and find one with .44 or earlier
 

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Can I root if I'm on 5.1 (23.21.49.quark)?
If you installed that version (.49) via OTA, prior to unlocking the bootloader via sunshine, assuming you have the xt1254 (Droid Turbo), then you are out of luck. If you bought it used, you can check to see if the previous owner unlocked it but otherwise you would need to sell it and find one with .44 or earlier
I find it funny how people don't like all the many prominent "NO, you cannot unlock your bootloader and root on SUTL-49!" threads and are digging up OLD threads from early 2015 (before Sunshine even came out, which works on SUTL-44) to try to get different answers. :p

This is an OLD thread. The only sections of it that are even relevant are the pages from November 2015 and later when people had SUTL-44 on their phones and Sunshine was released, which works only on SUTL-44. IF you have firmware before that, you can carefully flash SUTL-44 to then unlock and root using Sunshine. IF you have SUTL-49 or later (for future readers), and your bootloader was not unlocked before installing that firmware, you are out of luck.

Digging up old threads to get a different answer won't work.

This thread below was just started last week and answers the same question:

Droid turbo root after su4tl-49
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...t-su4tl-49-t3428147/post67948617#post67948617

or this:

[PSA] DT Android SU4TL-49 5.1 + Updates patch SunShine Unlock, Unlock b4 updating
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/psa-droid-turbo-android-6-0-update-t3379894
 
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Sunshine has a temp root that works so you don't have to use kingroot anymore
No they don't. Sunshine revoked temp root access to apps because people would complain to Sunshine that the temp root didn't work properly when using it as a half a** alternative to root/unlocking their bootloader
 

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Sunshine has a temp root that works so you don't have to use kingroot anymore
No they don't. Sunshine revoked temp root access to apps because people would complain to Sunshine that the temp root didn't work properly when using it as a half a** alternative to root/unlocking their bootloader
Right. They took temp root out. See full explanation here from @jcase:

Actually, what we did was we updated it so temproot is only provided to the SunShine application, and we had to do it for the dumbest reason ever. We knew people would use it for temp root without buying, even if temproot wasn't perfectly stable. We didn't really care if they did, not until a few people got really aggressive and spammed our support about our "trial mode" not working right. SunShine has no trial mode, they were complaining about temproot not being perfect.

I cant waste hours a day helping angry people over a trial mode that just doesn't exist, and I'm also not going to take abuse over it.

So temproot is limited to just sunshine now
 

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No they don't. Sunshine revoked temp root access to apps because people would complain to Sunshine that the temp root didn't work properly when using it as a half a** alternative to root/unlocking their bootloader
Right. They took temp root out. See full explanation here from @jcase:
No we didn't, we still have temproot, it still works fine to temproot and unlock the bootloader. We just no longer allow other apps to use our temproot, for a variety of reasons (mostly ppl using it for things we didnt design it to do, and were either potentially harmful to the phone, or caused us to waste a lot of time).

After using sunshine, we prefer if people root the phone properly, by flashing TWRP in fastboot and then flashing supersu
 

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No we didn't, we still have temproot, it still works fine to temproot and unlock the bootloader. We just no longer allow other apps to use our temproot, for a variety of reasons (mostly ppl using it for things we didnt design it to do, and were either potentially harmful to the phone, or caused us to waste a lot of time).

After using sunshine, we prefer if people root the phone properly, by flashing TWRP in fastboot and then flashing supersu
That's what I wrote ;)

Sunshine revoked temp root access to apps because people would complain to Sunshine that the temp root didn't work properly when using it as a half a** alternative to root/unlocking their bootloader
 

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No we didn't, we still have temproot, it still works fine to temproot and unlock the bootloader. We just no longer allow other apps to use our temproot, for a variety of reasons (mostly ppl using it for things we didnt design it to do, and were either potentially harmful to the phone, or caused us to waste a lot of time).

After using sunshine, we prefer if people root the phone properly, by flashing TWRP in fastboot and then flashing supersu
But it doesn't unlock the bootloader nor temp root on SUTL-49. That's actually what we are discussing.

Can I root if I'm on 5.1 (23.21.49.quark)?
This was the question that started the whole "there's no more temp root" on Sunshine. One person said YES you still could, @iiwoostock said no, and I quoted your posted as proof he was right.

I said you "took it out" but I meant no general temp root (root for anything), which is what the people keep asking for who never bothered to use Sunshine when they could, pre-SUTL-49.
 
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But it doesn't unlock the bootloader nor temp root on SUTL-49. That's actually what we are discussing.
What was said is there is no temproot, which is wrong there is. We have no point to temproot su49 because we have no proper root for it after the fact.
 

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What was said is there is no temproot, which is wrong there is. We have no point to temproot su49 because we have no proper root for it after the fact.
we cross posted. See my edited reply. From what you have said, there is no "general temp root" people can just use as they wish. Sorry if I am not using the correct terminology. People want "general use" root. It's not there.

I was agreeing with iiWoostock and using your post as proof.'

The question was specific to SUTL-49. Sorry if it wasn't obvious.
 
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http://www.zdnet.com/article/quadrooter-security-flaws-affect-over-900-million-android-phones/

'Quadrooter' flaws affect over 900 million Android phones
All versions of Android are vulnerable to these flaws, which won't be fully patched until the September security release next month.

by Zack Whittaker for Zero Day | August 7, 2016 -- 22:00 GMT

Four previously undisclosed security vulnerabilities found in Android phones and tablets that ship with Qualcomm chips could let a hacker take full control of an affected device.

If any of the flaws are successfully exploited, an attacker can gain root access, which gives the attacker full access to an affected Android device, its data, and its hardware -- including its camera and microphone
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http://www.cso.com.au/mediareleases/27855/check-point-researchers-uncover-quadrooter/
The vulnerabilities are found in the software drivers Qualcomm ships with its chipsets. An attacker can exploit these vulnerabilities using a malicious app. This app would require no special permissions to take advantage of the vulnerabilities, which means it would not make users suspicious. The estimated 900 million affected devices include these models:

Samsung Galaxy S7 & S7 Edge

Sony Xperia Z Ultra

Google Nexus 5X, 6 & 6P

HTC One M9 & HTC 10

LG G4, G5 & V10

Motorola Moto X

OnePlus One, 2 & 3

BlackBerry Priv

Blackphone 1 & 2

Since the vulnerable software drivers are pre-installed on devices at the point of manufacture, they can only be fixed by installing a patch from the device’s distributor or carrier. Distributors and carriers issuing patches can only do so after receiving fixed driver packs from Qualcomm.
The Moto X is listed as one of the devices. Wonder if Quark is also? Is this something Sunshine and @jcase could use?
 
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http://www.zdnet.com/article/quadrooter-security-flaws-affect-over-900-million-android-phones/



The Moto X is listed as one of the devices. Wonder if Quark is also? Is this something Sunshine and @jcase could use?
That article is mistaken, i've contacted teh author (nice guy ive talked to before). Those exploits would only give your root/kernel exec, not "full control", still missing tz/bl exec which is needed for unlock.

As far as root, we have root, root has never been an issue with the update. We dont have control of trustzone on the new update.