Root for Rookies

c_licious

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Hey Guys

I really hope I'm posting this in the right place. Please forgive my ignorance :eek:

For the past few days I have tried to get simple and UP TO DATE instruction on how to root the G1. There is so much information scattered out there that its quite overwhelming. Unfortunately I only understand half of the stuff I'm reading (at best) and was hoping one of you smart folks can help a complete amateur in my desperate quest to get root :)

Can someone please help me with the following:

1) are these steps for downgrading to RC 29 and rooting still applicable for cupcake?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480

2) what does it mean to update the radio, SPL, and ROM and how do I do that.

3) where can I find the latest versions of all the stuff I need?

4) will I be able to reinstall all the apps I've bought as long as sign in with the same email after rooting?

5) will some market apps be blocked for me after rooting?

I realize this sounds really ignorant but would appreciate any help I can get!
 

doctorfugazi

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Think about how many times a day the same inquiries roll these boards. If you've been reading the boards for the past few days and didn't find the answer to the majority of those questions something ain't right meng. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just saying. The foundation of everything you may or may not learn is slap dab one of the first posts in this forum.

I'm not going to get into that..but you need to. the answers to all your questions are here in front of you. It just gets frustrating (it was to me at least) at times because you might stumble upon 3 different but totally correct answers to one question. Thats exactly where i was right HERE. that was two weeks ago. jumped on the boards one friday night a wreck, by sunday night i was peacefully rooted. Slow down, think about what your doing and what you're reading. make sure you have some free time...TO YOUR SELF. get a pen and some paper right stuff down. take into consideration you might not make it in a day. yeah u might botch your way to ROOT, but unless you REALLLY understand and know how to get there...you could be setting yourself up for alot of frustration. thats all i have to say about that. you caught me on a good night...just had a glass of wine bout call it quits. sorry about any typos. good luck!
 

B-man007

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Think about how many times a day the same inquiries roll these boards. If you've been reading the boards for the past few days and didn't find the answer to the majority of those questions something ain't right meng. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just saying. The foundation of everything you may or may not learn is slap dab one of the first posts in this forum.

I'm not going to get into that..but you need to. the answers to all your questions are here in front of you. It just gets frustrating (it was to me at least) at times because you might stumble upon 3 different but totally correct answers to one question. Thats exactly where i was right HERE. that was two weeks ago. jumped on the boards one friday night a wreck, by sunday night i was peacefully rooted. Slow down, think about what your doing and what you're reading. make sure you have some free time...TO YOUR SELF. get a pen and some paper right stuff down. take into consideration you might not make it in a day. yeah u might botch your way to ROOT, but unless you REALLLY understand and know how to get there...you could be setting yourself up for alot of frustration. thats all i have to say about that. you caught me on a good night...just had a glass of wine bout call it quits. sorry about any typos. good luck!
off topic here.... but you may want to change your sig.....


SPL before RADIO = FAIL




1) downgrading to RC29 has not changed. it is only different if you do not have a us or uk g1 (you will need to use a goldcard method otherwise)

2)
radio is here
(ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip )

http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html#s3

HardSPL found here w/ descriptions

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860

3)what stuff?

4) yes your apps will be there

5) depends on the rom but most have all apps enabled
 

c_licious

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off topic here.... but you may want to change your sig.....


SPL before RADIO = FAIL




1) downgrading to RC29 has not changed. it is only different if you do not have a us or uk g1 (you will need to use a goldcard method otherwise)

2)
radio is here
(ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip )

http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html#s3

HardSPL found here w/ descriptions

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860

3)what stuff?

4) yes your apps will be there

5) depends on the rom but most have all apps enabled
Thanks so much! I realize hearing these basic questions about root over and over must be increadibly frustrating for you and appreciate the patience!

Any recommendations as to what ROM I should install? Not quite sure how the different versions compare.
 

s15274n

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OP, I followed the instructions you linked to just a few days ago and it worked like a breeze. Much easier that I thought it would, and i have no experience with this. I would suggest that when you get to the final part where you are upgrading to a new ROM to try cyanogen's stable build 3.6.8.1. It is just like cupcake (what you had) with a ton of new options.

also, his pimped out recovery.img can be used... version 1.4. I followed that guide to a T, then learned of this new and improved recovery.img file he made. So, basically the next day I changed to this version and it is a lot better.

Partition your sd card when you finish this and his rom will put all of your apps on your SD card, which frees up a ton of internal memory. I went and d/loaded about 60 apps after doing this. His rom does it for you automatically... like, no thought needed, you want even know unless you go to settings and look at the memory.... or, you may b/c of the speed of your phone. This was also much easier than I though, basically just keying a few lines of text in terminal emulator (which you will have after loading his rom above).

Any of the other experienced people have any issues with what I said?
 

B-man007

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I would also suggest cyanogen's builds. It has a lot of features and is both relatively noob friendly, feature-packed, advanced capabilities for advanced users, and fast. His 4.0 stable is just around the corner with even more features than his current stable version. There are many other ROM's out there as well, you'll have to try em out yourself and see if you like them or not. (Be careful of the ones that say you need the updated SPL, such as the hero ROM's. If your not careful when updating to that SPL [Haykuro's 1.33.2005 SPL] you could brick your phone. )

Cyan's recovery is a must :D

its great no matter what ROM you choose to use


If you need anything else, feel free to PM me or post here
 

c_licious

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This is how I got it to work!!!

(SD CARD READER NEEDED)

Got it to work using this tutorial. If I had found it before I wouldn't have started a new thread. Will look harder in the future!!!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533731

Followed steps until step 16

After step 16:
I had to install the JesusFreke rom cause it wouldn’t let me flash the cyanogen recovery image otherwise (permission denied problem as mentioned by author)

Installed cyanogen recovery image

I skipped partitioning the sd card at this point cause I didn’t plan on installing the Hero rom. If you want to flash the Hero rom you shouldn't skip partitioning

Installed latest Radio

Installed latest SPL

From here on I did my own thing:

Couldn’t boot after updating SPL cause rom got wiped by updating SPL. I had to put the new rom (Cyanogen v3.6.8.1) onto sd card, rename as update.zip and boot into recovery mode to flash it. This is were the sd card reader comes in handy.

You can find the Cyanogen ROM here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537204

After flashing the rom it was stuck on the loading screen so I rebooted into recovery mode and did a clean swipe. Loaded just fine after that.

Created ext2 partition using Paragon Partition Manager (see threat below), rebooted and was good to go

Partitioning using Paragon Partition Manager:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...artitioning+sd

Thanks again for your help guys!
 

ThR1LL

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I just used cyan's recovery 1.4 and loaded the radio.zip, spl.zip, and rom.zip onto my sdcard and flashed them in that order. I didn't need to take my sdcard at all
 

ThR1LL

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lol i c u used my guide. :D

Hope it was helpful hahahaha :D
There's a guide on this?!?! WTF!!! I like freaked out over a week trying to figure out how to flash the new SPL without taking out my SD card until I found this post and made it work with cyan's new recovery. Someone should sticky your guide bc I had no idea it existed lol.
 

nephron

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