- Aug 11, 2008
Your responses were brought to my attention couple of days ago, but I needed to be... let's say "calmer" to respond to you. So here we go
So basically what you're saying is this:
You have in the past, you do now and we will in the future protect the "copyright" of "developers" who backdoor into a proprietary apk by using an illegal tool and make 3000 changes (let's say it's 3000 LINES... to be large with ya, you...) in a project (let's say samsung firmware for android devices), which originally contains billions of lines and call it their own. So you go into extensive investigations and close threads and you even made up a word for this shame, called "kanging". And you call those people developers and you protect their work from each other and you make sure they have asked permission of each other... and you make sure they have the credits... and so on. Then you take our project, which is purely from scratch, purely original development, built by us from A to Z, given to people of XDA with no demands for credits, permission asking or money (not ever, mind you...), while the only thing we asked of YOU as XDA representative, was to make sure people keep the honor of open source license, and all you have to say when people literally "S*H*I*T" on us and our work, when they disrespect us... all you have to say is "theives will be theives"
Our project works without root on any device and is in NO way comes to satisfy needs of apktool modders. We have given months of hard work without asking for single credit, permission begging or money, to help people grow in android debvelopment.
All you did with your replies here is show exactly why ignorance is bliss and, also, should be the name of XDA. We came here when it was a place to share knowledge. We are now surrounded by disrespectful, ignorant and petty little people like you. Telling us our only request for sharing the code means NOTHING to you. And that people will keep steeling (because.. h ow did you put that? "this forum is mostly about doing illegal things" and you will keep backing them up. People will keel ****ting on open source and you will keep allowing them.. because HEY, i GUESS BACKING UP HACKERS IN THEIR WAR ABOUT KANGING EACH OTHER"S KANGING, IS WAY MORE IMPORTANT THAN SUPPORTING A SIMPLE REQUEST OF 2 OPEN SOURCE DEVELOPERS TO HONOR THE OPENNESS OF THEIR CODE.
You know how many times I have been approached to apply to xda RD? You know why never agreed? Because you grant this title to people who never wrote a line of code in their life. You grant it to people who hack other people's applications, make minor changes, call it their own and then fight over who took who's hack. And @Wuby986 and I don't need you to tell us you recognize us as developers. We ARE developers. And you ARE wrong in the way you view the code sharing issues.
Shame on you, really. If this is really what you think, you're not worthy to be among people who contribute and develop.
Sincerely, Dax, the co-author of Rom Control.
P.S. Don't bother replying or quoting. It was really rhetoric.
First off. The RD thing is wasted in me. Titles mean less then nothing to me personally.
The bottom line is simple really. There will always be people out there that take someone else's work and calls it their own. This is not new as it has been said. You think you are the first this has happened to?
So people are using your code as a selling point to their roms in places like telegram and Facebook. That is not something we can do anything about. If you report a thread here then it is taken care of by the mod team. What happens outside xda is not xda problem.
Now there is a simple way for you to fix it yourself. Make the source private. Not ideal but it is the only 100% way to stop it. Other wise you are just getting upset over something that will never be stopped.
Do I like people that do it? No. Do I think it is fair? No. Doest it matter? Nope. It will not end.
One thing I do find funny is that you are complaining about people doing to your apk the same thing you do to Samsungs.
As for how long you have been around. Take a look. I have been fighting this same battle with it for almost a decade. So I feel your pain but I also see the reality of the subject. You do what you can and not sweat what you can't do anything about.