S7 Active Thread

jlczl

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I didn't see a forum for the Active and I'm guessing one won't be made so I figured I'd start this thread for S7 Active questions and/or other information.



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I didn't see a forum for the Active and I'm guessing one won't be made so I figured I'd start this thread for S7 Active questions and/or other information.
Good job man, yea I bought the active as well and wasn't seeing any threads pop up. I'm looking into finding exploits to unlock the bootloader right now.
 

jlczl

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I wish I had the type of skills for software development but I have none. What I can contribute is some experience with accessories I've tried and general use type of feedback.

I've bought a couple of cases for circumstances that warrant additional protection even though I usually carry the phone without one. I have the Otterbox Defender and I also bought a Bodyguardz case. I had a Zagg Glass protector installed and it works perfectly. Also, the naked s7 active fits perfectly in my old Seidio holster for my cased s5 and my old Note 4 holster fits perfectly on my s7 Active when I have it in the Bodyguardz case.

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inneyeseakay

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If you get this, but a screen protector IMMEDIATELY! In less than a week just carrying it in my pocket, the screen has some pretty significant scratches in it. The "shatterproof" plastic layer over the glass screen scratches extremely easy!

I'll be exchanging mine and applying a screen protector to the new one immediately, that being said... does anyone have any real life pictures of the gold? I'm debating exchanging my grey one for a gold one.

Other than that, I LOVE THE PHONE and wouldn't hesitate to pay the $100 premium over the standard S7 and definitely prefer it over the S7 Edge! Battery life is BEAST!

I've taken mine swimming, taken underwater videos/pics and no issues! :D

https://vimeo.com/172735022
 
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jlczl

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Does the otterbox case work well with the screen protector you have on already?
Good question. I haven't used the Otterbox since I got the screen protector installed because I only use it when extreme protection is required (at work). I'm on vacation right now but I'll test it when I get back to work. The Bodyguardz case works just fine with it though.

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Nice video! Remind you of what the S7A can do. I put a screen protector on mine pretty quickly and managed a few weeks without any scratches while waiting for them to arrive.

Wasn't aware of the plastic outer-layer on the screen vs the glass on the regular S7s - obviously this is how they get the shatterproof rating.

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I can vouch for the need to get a screen protector. I had mine for 5 days before the glass protector came in (Dmax Armor from Amazon) - and I have a hairline scratch in one small area of the screen.

It's so small an not even noticeable with the protector on that I'm too lazy to replace the phone - but to anyone else, don't even use the phone until you have a protector on the screen.
 
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inneyeseakay

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I work for the phone company so my working conditions are a little rough, but mine looked pretty bad after a week.

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Okay can confirm S7 Active water-resistant capabilities. Recently, on vaction in the gulf Mexico I decided to test my phone's IP-68 rating. I was on the beach and had some sand on the screen and needed to wash it off. I proceeded to the crashing waves and doused it in the ocean. I took some video which looked really good and had it in there for about a minute. Now I really put no thought to the whole salt=corrosive thing until after the fact. I dried it off with a towel shortly after and found the speaker muffled. Now this concerned me a little and read up on some articles about the regular S7's capabilities. Some reviews claimed it would permanently damage the speaker and that salt water was especially not recommended for fear of corrosion of the various ports. There were refutes on reddit about these facts but it didn't sound like they had ever tried it themselves. This is when the fear set in. I sat there on the beach with 5% charge left knowing already I couldn't charge my phone for a few hours until the moisture cleared out of the micro-usb port. This meant not knowing for HOURS whether the speaker would ever come back to normal and even if I could charge it may still be hours until it indeed does go back to normal. I decided on washing out the salt water with a tap water sink as recommended by Samsumg New Zealand in their ad about using the reg S7 for surfing. So, I finally was able to charge about 3 hours later and it still had a muffled. This sent me into a scare as I didn't want to ruin this brand new piece of expensive tech so quickly. I tried a method from reddit of sucking out the water and this definitely did help but it wasn't a complete solution, still muffled and crackling at the top end. Everything else worked at this point but microphone experienced muffling as well. The next morning I tried the audio and to my great relief it was fine along with everything else. I recommend not purposely exposing your S7 Active to anything but fresh water because Samsung did not test for corrosive characteristics that come with salt or chlorine pools or anything along those lines. But if you are trying to get an awesome shot of a coral reef definitely try to get iy as permanent damage is not likely as long as you stay in for a reasonable time and depth. Goodluck guys and share your experiences as well.
 

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I work for the phone company so my working conditions are a little rough, but mine looked pretty bad after a week.

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What a coincidence! So do I. That's one of the reasons I use an Otterbox Defender at times. If the phone is going up a telephone pole with me I want it to survive a 30 foot drop lol.

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What a coincidence! So do I. That's one of the reasons I use an Otterbox Defender at times. If the phone is going up a telephone pole with me I want it to survive a 30 foot drop lol.

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At&t?

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I can vouch for the need to get a screen protector. I had mine for 5 days before the glass protector came in (Dmax Armor from Amazon) - and I have a hairline scratch in one small area of the screen.

It's so small an not even noticeable with the protector on that I'm too lazy to replace the phone - but to anyone else, don't even use the phone until you have a protector on the screen.
I also got a hairline scratch that you mentioned. I don't know when though. I literally had the phone in my pocket and still got the scratch. WTF?
Does anyone know how I can get a replacement phone from at&t since they won't take anything back for cosmetic reasons?
 

inneyeseakay

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I also got a hairline scratch that you mentioned. I don't know when though. I literally had the phone in my pocket and still got the scratch. WTF?
Does anyone know how I can get a replacement phone from at&t since they won't take anything back for cosmetic reasons?
I got mine from Best Buy and was having issues with the first one staying connected to my bluetooth headset, so I insisted on an exchange. No issues. ;)

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If you get this, but a screen protector IMMEDIATELY! In less than a week just carrying it in my pocket, the screen has some pretty significant scratches in it. The "shatterproof" plastic layer over the glass screen scratches extremely easy!

I'll be exchanging mine and applying a screen protector to the new one immediately, that being said... does anyone have any real life pictures of the gold? I'm debating exchanging my grey one for a gold one.

Other than that, I LOVE THE PHONE and wouldn't hesitate to pay the $100 premium over the standard S7 and definitely prefer it over the S7 Edge! Battery life is BEAST!

I've taken mine swimming, taken underwater videos/pics and no issues! :D

https://vimeo.com/172735022
Ditto to the Screen Protector comment. If you have an Active, get a glass screen protector ASAP. Polycarbonate is great for durability, but NOT scuff or scratch resistance whatsoever.

Heres my S7 Active in Gold, with an $8 Supershieldz (2 pack) glass screen protector and an $8 Cimo TPU clear cover... Also a brief synopsis and review...

Samsung Galaxy S7 Active; brief 2 week review...

Camera
The camera is excellent, has approximately 11-11.5 stops of dynamic range (in RAW, obviously), and the OIS is fantastic. Very sharp (again in RAW) optics as well; about up there with my ancient Nikon D300 ($1700 new) with the excellent 18-200VR ($700 new) lens attached in terms of sharpness, BARELY less dynamic range, and the OIS works just as well as the Nikon VR lenses i own; highly impressed actually. VERY good low light, very low noise and no discernable noise pattern. I have not shot anything in JPEG; I usually drag a BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera with a Panasonic Lumix OIS 12-35 f2.8 lens around as well as my Nikon D300 with assorted stabilized zooms and prime optics as well, as i shoot and film everything in RAW (i filmed and shot ads, corp videos, music videos, etc professionally for several years). The S7 Active does NOT shoot RAW video, but one might be able to downsample 4k footage to a decent bitrate 1080p with very good results and much higher bitrates to play with. Dynamic range is limited in JPEG from what i've seen, although HDR more works pretty darn decently, in both video and photo modes. OIS is ALWAYS on, and AF tracking works pretty good; about the same as 3D Tracking on the Nikon D300, just a hair slower. AF is fast and accurate, nowhere near DSLR's, but WAY faster than most phones, and WAY faster and more accurate than 'Focus' push on the Blackmagic Pocket camera ($1,000 camera with an $800 stabilized lens), but that is to be expected from a camera you usually rig up and manually pull focus on anyways. Granted, both the BMD Pocket Camera and Nikon D300 are semi-professional cameras, aimed at professional/semi pro uses, designed to shoot RAW reliably, but the comparison came to mind and its worthwhile, as the quality is on par with them within reasonable use and expectations. Oh, and neither is water resistant, and the lenses certainly are not! Background pic i shot with the S7 Active; water condensation over a backlit chilled display case.

Apps/Carrier Bloatware
I have disabled all bloatware via paid app Package Disabler Pro (Samsung), tweaked and tested it out since launch day; it really does easily last about 30 hours with moderate use once tweaked; with most useful options enabled (even S-voice, NFC, Always-On Display and GPS). I have access to a totally vanilla, unmodified/untweaked S7 Active that i bought for my parents to compare with; GSAM battery stats etc, for a wholistic 'Out Of Box' vs tweaked comparison.

Ideally, and mostly for app/settings backup/misc tweaks, id like to see the S7 Active rooted, but i dont feel its entirely needed, all things considered. Mine is now SIM unlocked via AT&T and i have all bloatware disabled, greenified, and tweaked for even better battery life as well as a simple, smooth, one page launcher/one page dock to keep things nice, neat and clean. I travel a lot for work, sport, and vacations.

This appears to be the first fully featured, ruggedized flagship with no compromises (aside from locked to GSM and initially via AT&T only), but otherwise i have found no real faults. I prefer plastics and rubber over glass and metal; they tend to last longer and survive far better than pretty/elegant/unique metal/glass designs. I paid for it outright, and AT&T kindly sent me the SIM unlock code 2 days after i requested it, for free, as i am travelling to France, Greece, and Russia shortly to visit family and friends. I had a few friends who have had S4, S5, and S6 Actives and loved them, although 2 friends did manage to crack the screens on previous Active devices dropping them. Based on recent youtube stuff, i cant see that happening as frequently with the S7 Active due to the plastic laminated screen, though it will scratch easier.

just to clarify some specs, the screen is actually a laminate of polycarbonate plastic on top of Gorilla Glass 4, so while it is much improved in terms of shatter resistance, it is MUCH more prone to scratches, i highly recommend a glass screen protector so you dont scratch up the polycarb screen. I bought a SuperShieldz 2 pack for $8 that works great. the laminate plastic is NOT removable, so once scratched, its there permanently. A cheap case isnt a bad idea either, i bought a clear Cimo TPU cover for $8 for the hell of it.

I have never broken a screen yet, but i had dropped my phones a few times, never used screen protectors or cases/covers either, but figured for a few bucks, considering im much more into kayaking, hiking, biking, and skiing now, why the hell not? its a big device as is, and the battery actually holds up great; i have been consistently seeing 30 hours of battery life between charges, which is enough to get me through 2 days of moderate to heavy use in areas with terrible signal and no wi-fi.

Advanced tweaks, accessories
Adoptable storage really isnt needed; it CAN be done, but there's no going back besides a factory reset if you want things to work properly. I tried it for 3 days, and eventually reset and went back to external portable storage, and transferred all apps, data, pics, etc to ExtSD as well as scripted an auto transfer of all videos, pics, downloads, etc from internal to external storage nightly onto the 200GB microSD card i bought with Tasker. Also, im paranoid about wearing out the micro USB port as i did (twice) with my S4, so i bought a Samsung Fast Wireless Charger. Its just as fast as the regular, wired fast charger you get in the box, plus its basically just a tilted disc cradle with a Fast Charger plugged into it; same cable and power brick as the S7 Active charger you get in the box, so if, for whatever reason, you prefer wired charging (it does warm up a bit), or need a USB data transfer cable, the Fast Wireless Charger is the same thing, with the added wireless disc/cradle

The cheap clear TPU case and equally cheap (2 pack) glass screen protectors i bought are completely worth it. I prefer TPU for covers (i dont do cases; too bulky, and have typically been a nudist when it comes to phones); rubber collects every spec of dust and lint, silicone stretches too much and also collects lint, plastic transfers too much shock and is not flexible, TPU is JUST RIGHT for a phone cover, and with the S7 Active, you don't need a case, but just as added protection, a TPU cover is perfect. Do, however, get a glass screen cover; sensitivity/feedback is identical, zero bubbles/issues if applied properly, and your screen will stay perfect, again within reason. TPU also is rather slip resistant, which is nice, considering the metal parts of the frame are rather slippery, and the rubberized plastic is not that grippy, whereas TPU provides almost the same coefficient of friction as proper rubber cases, in wider temperatures, as well as being less prone to UV degradation and tearing over time.

Active exclusive features
The Active key is probably the best feature aside from durability (after you put on a screen protector, and maybe a cover/case), as its fully programmable to whatever app you like, which in my case is keyed to Camera on single press for normal or quick shots, and A-Light on long press, as i have the Active/S-Health setup elsewhere, and use Camera FV-5 for more natural control over shooting in RAW. The 4000Mah battery is also a huge bonus; zero complaints; with proper power management app settings and some tweaks, i haven't seen under 30 hours of medium to heavy usage, in areas with no wifi and low signal as well.

Tested Durability
While i dont like needlessly subjecting perfectly good electronics wastefully to redundant durability tests, i have washed the phone, with and without a screen protector (before it came), and TPU case (before and after it came), with windex, water, as well as shampoo, soap and water. I don't like to stress the micro USB port (S4 micro USB port died on me twice, though it was easy to get to and replace), so i bought a wireless charger. I am pretty careful with my electronics, but bumps, falls, etc happen; and i travel, bike, hike, kayak, etc as much as i can, and im glad i dont have to worry or baby this device.

Overall Impressions
Aside from being AT&T carrier locked (meaning you'd have to buy it outright and ask AT&T to unlock it, which they always have for me, or get it unlocked elsewhere), the bloatware is easily disabled, the features are on par with the S7/S7 Edge (minus Edge features), the battery is larger, the Active key (again, totally reprogrammable) is solid gold, and both the screen and camera are protected by a tiny lip, as well as rubberized corners, so damage is less likely, although the screen is polycarbonate covered, so prone to scuffs and scratches, however with a cheap screen protector and a cheap cover, these issues are totally mitigated.

Images are from a Galaxy S4, and the S7 Active shown has the aforementioned screen protector and TPU cover attached. Apologies for any linguistic discrepancies or errors; English is not my native tongue.
 

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