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mxkxlwd

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I'm looking at the Samsung S21 Ultra, unlocked. This is my first entry into Samsung phones, before it was either Apple or Google Pixels. Is it possible on an unlocked phone to remove the Samsung bloat ware? Or to replace the OS with stock android?
 

ffuser1

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I'm looking at the Samsung S21 Ultra, unlocked. This is my first entry into Samsung phones, before it was either Apple or Google Pixels. Is it possible on an unlocked phone to remove the Samsung bloat ware? Or to replace the OS with stock android?
if your bootloader is unlocked (not the same as phone being carrier unlocked) you can root it and remove bloatware. there's also an option by adb (and a tool with a gui exists. can't think of the name of it) to disable some bloatware. aosp roms don't exist on this phone yet so no stock/vanilla android yet
 

mxkxlwd

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So, yea, it will be carrier unlocked. I guess I haven't looked into what it takes to unlock the bootloader.
 

blackhawk

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I use Package Disabler to disable anything I chose. Bonus being I can toggle them on or off easily including Goggle Play Services.
 

blackhawk

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No root needed. No Playstore to screw it up.

Karma Firewall (Playstore) is the other app I use to lock down Samsung. Freeware, no ads, extremely low battery usage. Unfortunately it's logging feature doesn't work on Q and above I believe... I'm running Pie. There may be a work around with adb, don't know.
 

d0x360

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Package disabler pro works great however payment for it is very sketchy...

I originally bought it from the play store and it warmed that if Samsung broke the app I would have to buy it again unless I bought it on the website.

So after I lost access I bought it on the website and it CLEARLY stated doing so would mean free lifetime updates when Samsung breaks the app. So the play store version is a 1 time deal and the website version was slightly more expensive but a lifetime license.

Fast forward a few months and Samsung had broken the app so I went to the website to get the update and I couldn't. I talked to the dev and he sent me a version that worked.

A few weeks later a login section was added to the site. I couldn't login, sign up or use password reset... So I emailed the dev again and that's when the problems began.

Suddenly my "lifetime" license was a 1 year license. Now call me crazy but if you sell a lifetime license but then later change how you sell licenses you should honor the agreement for existing users.

They didn't honor it and I had to buy the app for a 3rd time and it was again more expensive and now the license was only for a year.

So... Be careful when buying package disabler pro. The dev seems to like to change the rules on you which always means you paying...again.

I thought the play store vs website model was a great idea. Most people would buy via the play store so revenue should be ok. Screwing over your most loyal customers..the website ones is a jerk move. If they grandfathered only people who complained about the lifetime license actually being a yearly license that would probably have worked in their favor as most people either wouldn't care, or wouldn't remember it being lifetime.
 

blackhawk

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ADB App Control works well too. It is possible and there are a couple options.
I rarely boot up my laptop. A self contained Android app is much easier, more flexible and great for troubleshooting anywhere.
PD MDM has given me almost zero issues. It can be firewall blocked once activated.
 

spjetrovic

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Package disabler pro works great however payment for it is very sketchy...

I originally bought it from the play store and it warmed that if Samsung broke the app I would have to buy it again unless I bought it on the website.

So after I lost access I bought it on the website and it CLEARLY stated doing so would mean free lifetime updates when Samsung breaks the app. So the play store version is a 1 time deal and the website version was slightly more expensive but a lifetime license.

Fast forward a few months and Samsung had broken the app so I went to the website to get the update and I couldn't. I talked to the dev and he sent me a version that worked.

A few weeks later a login section was added to the site. I couldn't login, sign up or use password reset... So I emailed the dev again and that's when the problems began.

Suddenly my "lifetime" license was a 1 year license. Now call me crazy but if you sell a lifetime license but then later change how you sell licenses you should honor the agreement for existing users.

They didn't honor it and I had to buy the app for a 3rd time and it was again more expensive and now the license was only for a year.

So... Be careful when buying package disabler pro. The dev seems to like to change the rules on you which always means you paying...again.

I thought the play store vs website model was a great idea. Most people would buy via the play store so revenue should be ok. Screwing over your most loyal customers..the website ones is a jerk move. If they grandfathered only people who complained about the lifetime license actually being a yearly license that would probably have worked in their favor as most people either wouldn't care, or wouldn't remember it being lifetime.
This ( Dev) jerk has been doing this for years to his customers!
 
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d0x360

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This ( Dev) jerk has been doing this for years to his customers!

I got nearly 2 years of use out of the first play store purchase which was like $4.

The thing is... When Samsung "breaks" the app with an update I don't think it takes much effort from him to fix it. Especially since I've seen it fixed in under 24 hours and I assume he slept for some of that time lol plus it probably took some time to find out it was not working.

I have no problem with someone wanting to make money, especially if they are making something that's useful and the app is definitely useful.

My problem is the whole lifetime license that suddenly is only a year long license. I'm pretty sure that's illegal. It's certainly deceptive and false advertising.

I haven't really looked into it but if there was another app that was priced reasonable I'd switch.
 

lywyn

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Suddenly my "lifetime" license was a 1 year license. Now call me crazy but if you sell a lifetime license but then later change how you sell licenses you should honor the agreement for existing users.

They didn't honor it and I had to buy the app for a 3rd time and it was again more expensive and now the license was only for a year.

I've had experience with a few lifetime licences and the one thing I learnt is that legally "lifetime" can mean anything. They can end a lifetime licence based on a version number change, the licence is for the lifetime of the version you bought for example.
 

blackhawk

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I've had experience with a few lifetime licences and the one thing I learnt is that legally "lifetime" can mean anything. They can end a lifetime licence based on a version number change, the licence is for the lifetime of the version you bought for example.
If you get a year or more and it's a good app, be happy... a couple bucks ain't going to break the bank.
Better than paying for a trash app that boot loops the phone🤣
 

Goku1992

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Had the same experience with this app.... Bought it two or three times in the playstore... Today i debloat via ADB. Made an list and can copy and paste it to debloat all my phones or when i wipe them :)
 

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    Package disabler pro works great however payment for it is very sketchy...

    I originally bought it from the play store and it warmed that if Samsung broke the app I would have to buy it again unless I bought it on the website.

    So after I lost access I bought it on the website and it CLEARLY stated doing so would mean free lifetime updates when Samsung breaks the app. So the play store version is a 1 time deal and the website version was slightly more expensive but a lifetime license.

    Fast forward a few months and Samsung had broken the app so I went to the website to get the update and I couldn't. I talked to the dev and he sent me a version that worked.

    A few weeks later a login section was added to the site. I couldn't login, sign up or use password reset... So I emailed the dev again and that's when the problems began.

    Suddenly my "lifetime" license was a 1 year license. Now call me crazy but if you sell a lifetime license but then later change how you sell licenses you should honor the agreement for existing users.

    They didn't honor it and I had to buy the app for a 3rd time and it was again more expensive and now the license was only for a year.

    So... Be careful when buying package disabler pro. The dev seems to like to change the rules on you which always means you paying...again.

    I thought the play store vs website model was a great idea. Most people would buy via the play store so revenue should be ok. Screwing over your most loyal customers..the website ones is a jerk move. If they grandfathered only people who complained about the lifetime license actually being a yearly license that would probably have worked in their favor as most people either wouldn't care, or wouldn't remember it being lifetime.
    This ( Dev) jerk has been doing this for years to his customers!