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oraned

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Hi, I am not sure what you mean by lossless jpeg. I couldn't find a setting for this. Here you can find 6 JPEG photos. 3 with stock, 3 with expert. All settings (ISO, Exposure, Focus distance, White balance) should be exactly the same as I have manually selected them while keeping the phone on a tripod. Auto HDR was disabled too. https://we.tl/t-WSBZjBGaNB
Also, I am on the Exynos variant.
but There are still not many details like google camera
 
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Randi03

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Well I gues it depends. Personally, I did not find any Gcam version that does not smooth things out. In some instances, the stock camera was sharper than Gcam so I decided not to bother with it anymore.
 
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fl.campos

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Would someone tell me what are the shutter speed ranges for 3x and 10x lenses on this app? I'm thinking about buying one S21 Ultra for low light photography on a tripod.
 

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Matzinger87

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Could anyone please upload some RAW files? I really would like to see their quality when edited in Lightroom

I really would like to test it myself but I've got the S21U China variant, for which the final One UI 4 update hasn't been released yet. :-/
 

UNIK97122

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Here are some, they do have a high ISO though. https://we.tl/t-OB0jGNQlg0

I see that you also have problems with black or dark colors otherwise I don't really see a difference from the normal pro mode with regard to the main sensor or the ultra wide angle
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Randi03

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I see that you also have problems with black or dark colors otherwise I don't really see a difference from the normal pro mode with regard to the main sensor or the ultra wide angle
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Well, there is a difference in terms of clarity. I've uploaded here a photo of the same guitar (allmost same settings) but with the normal stock camera raw. You can open it in camera raw and compare with the expert version so you can see what I mean. https://we.tl/t-IOVxhMJpdB
 
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UNIK97122

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Well, there is a difference in terms of clarity. I've uploaded here a photo of the same guitar (allmost same settings) but with the normal stock camera raw. You can open it in camera raw and compare with the expert version so you can see what I mean. https://we.tl/t-IOVxhMJpdB

oh yes anyway huge difference, I was going to test on one of my castle one of these evenings side by side it looks huge

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Randi03

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Exactly, the difference is unbelievable. Although I do understand why, I mean the Expert uses stacked RAW's, and in some instances it can give cleaner images but they are exageratedly clean. I will always prefer more noise/detail to smudged/clean images.
 

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