Samsung Galaxy A20 Debloating

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jajk

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@Spaceminer Thanks, funny that almost every Samsung forum has so much effort going into debloating. It is sad that we have to go to such lengths but Samsung has certainly raced to the bottom (and won) with their entire range of newer phones. As every day go by, I am less impressed with my A20.......a severely crippled phone in every way possible:rolleyes:
 

Spaceminer

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@Spaceminer Thanks, funny that almost every Samsung forum has so much effort going into debloating. It is sad that we have to go to such lengths but Samsung has certainly raced to the bottom (and won) with their entire range of newer phones. As every day go by, I am less impressed with my A20.......a severely crippled phone in every way possible:rolleyes:

I feel the same way buddy. If you buy it, you own it. And if you want to change anything about it, that's your right. The manufacturer can get bent if they don't like it. Making something that you own suit your needs, shouldn't be such a hassle. One day I think someone will make a blank phone that you can install any OS on, just like a PC. Something modular perhaps with standardized slots for ram, ssd, and gpu/cpu upgrades. (Just like sim or sdcard slots.) This is the future I'm hoping for anyhow.
 
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@Spaceminer Thanks, funny that almost every Samsung forum has so much effort going into debloating. It is sad that we have to go to such lengths but Samsung has certainly raced to the bottom (and won) with their entire range of newer phones. As every day go by, I am less impressed with my A20.......a severely crippled phone in every way possible:rolleyes:

You would think that with over 50 million downloads of Magisk that they would get the message that a lot people want to have their phones their way. I don't actually find it that difficult though with Samsung once root and TWRP have been successful on it to have it my way. Grab ROM Toolbox Pro by J.R. Rummy and you may see how easy it is to Freeze Apps and make a lot of changes easily. Easy alphabetical search on all Apps - Frozen ones are grayed out and a whole lot of tools all in one App.
 

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is it possible to debloat permanently without root ?

I want to root and then make a factory reset. Will this bring the apps back ?

Thanks
 
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dellmitch

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How do you disable the A20 SM-A20YN 'phone function to make / receive calls / SMS and only have Data Active ?

i.e. Person can only use data and not make / receive calls / SMS
 
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Idea

I have an idea, we could use the debloat module from Magisk to debloat the system as much as we can and to export the list for the others to use on their phones with the same module.

I've tried debloating myself, here is the list.

Removed:
/system/app
- AutomatioTest-_FB
- Chrome
- Chrome customizations
- Facebook Stub
- Facebook app manager
- Game Optimizer
- Game Optimizer Service
- Gear Manager Stub
- Gmail2
- Google Maps
- Netflix Activation Carriers
- Netflix activation Samsung
- Netflix Stub
- LinkSharingV10 (from Samsung)
- PacProcessor (Knox VPN)
- PlayAutoInstall-config (means bloatware)
- Samsung Pass auto fill
- Web Manual
- YouTube

/system/priv-app
- Beacon Manager
- BixBy Service
- FBInstaller_NS
- FBServices
- Finder
- FMM
- GalaxyApps_OP-EN
- GalaxyAppsWidget_Phone_Dream
- GameHome
- GameTools_dream
- GooglePartner Setup
- Hearingdro_V7-P
- knoxanalyticsagent
- KnoxCore
- KnoxGuard
- KLMS Agent
- OneDrive Samsung v3
- PhoneSky
- SamsungAccount_Star
- SamsungBilling
- SamsungCloudClient
- SamsungDeviceHealthManager-Service
- SamsungDigital-Wellbeing
- SamsungExperienceService
- SamsungPass
- SamsungSocial
- SecureFolder
- ThemeCenter
- ThemeStore
- Velvet (Google app)

Though after doing this I got a message saying that the "authorization payment services" has been removed and because of that I could'nt unlock my phone. So DO NOT use this list.
 

jajk

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Yep....don't touch anything to do with Samsung Payment services!
Unfortunately Samsung has set nasty traps in app dependencies and fiercely protects it "right" to plunder your personal data by forcing you to leave certain apps intact that provide their backdoors. Each update brings different traps so there is no simple answer to "what can I remove?" It is more a question of "what must stay" and are you O.K with that!
After a few brickings trying to find a satisfactory solution, it became obvious to me that there is only one course of action......install a GSI ROM and put up with the minor losses in some hardware functionality. I don't mind loosing some camera functionality because, quite frankly the camera is crap (2 crap cameras do not make a single good camera).
Fingerprint sensor is a bit dodgy too so don't really miss that either. I am not a fish in a barrel waiting to be shot and I don't play nice in "walled gardens" so no more Samsung garbage for me.
 

silksong23

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A20s

I just got this phone yesterday A20s
Is it safe to use debloater to remove "Android system webview"?
I'm planning to install "Bromite System Webview" but I need to remove ASW because I'm not rooted.

also anyone know how can I double tap = off/sleep?
 
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@jajk I understand what you mean, I also gave up on this de-bloating idea and I have been using Lineage for quite some time without google Apps and my phone is better than ever! The battery now lasts 3 days with average usage.

However I found an OneUI GSI from this guy and its size is smaller than the stock rom's, indeed half the size. When I get some time I will try it out and see whether it's bloated or not.

If it's not then we found the solution for our problem.
 
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physwizz

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@jajk I understand what you mean, I also gave up on this de-bloating idea and I have been using Lineage for quite some time without google Apps and my phone is better than ever! The battery now lasts 3 days with average usage.

However I found an OneUI GSI from this guy and its size is smaller than the stock rom's, indeed half the size. When I get some time I will try it out and see whether it's bloated or not.

If it's not then we found the solution for our problem.

Looks good
I'll give it a try
I debloated my own using Titanium Backup and my TWRP backup was 629mb less than the stock backup.
 

physwizz

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@jajk I understand what you mean, I also gave up on this de-bloating idea and I have been using Lineage for quite some time without google Apps and my phone is better than ever! The battery now lasts 3 days with average usage.

However I found an OneUI GSI from this guy and its size is smaller than the stock rom's, indeed half the size. When I get some time I will try it out and see whether it's bloated or not.

If it's not then we found the solution for our problem.

I couldn't get the gsi to work.
 
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@jajk @physwizz Thank you for testing it out, now we know that we can't count on Samsung to provide a clean operating system. I have noticed that early builds from 2019 never worked on my phone either even if they are GSI A/B partition styled. Weird isn't it?
 
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    @Spaceminer Thanks, funny that almost every Samsung forum has so much effort going into debloating. It is sad that we have to go to such lengths but Samsung has certainly raced to the bottom (and won) with their entire range of newer phones. As every day go by, I am less impressed with my A20.......a severely crippled phone in every way possible:rolleyes:

    I feel the same way buddy. If you buy it, you own it. And if you want to change anything about it, that's your right. The manufacturer can get bent if they don't like it. Making something that you own suit your needs, shouldn't be such a hassle. One day I think someone will make a blank phone that you can install any OS on, just like a PC. Something modular perhaps with standardized slots for ram, ssd, and gpu/cpu upgrades. (Just like sim or sdcard slots.) This is the future I'm hoping for anyhow.
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    is it possible to debloat permanently without root ?

    I want to root and then make a factory reset. Will this bring the apps back ?

    Thanks
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    Yep....don't touch anything to do with Samsung Payment services!
    Unfortunately Samsung has set nasty traps in app dependencies and fiercely protects it "right" to plunder your personal data by forcing you to leave certain apps intact that provide their backdoors. Each update brings different traps so there is no simple answer to "what can I remove?" It is more a question of "what must stay" and are you O.K with that!
    After a few brickings trying to find a satisfactory solution, it became obvious to me that there is only one course of action......install a GSI ROM and put up with the minor losses in some hardware functionality. I don't mind loosing some camera functionality because, quite frankly the camera is crap (2 crap cameras do not make a single good camera).
    Fingerprint sensor is a bit dodgy too so don't really miss that either. I am not a fish in a barrel waiting to be shot and I don't play nice in "walled gardens" so no more Samsung garbage for me.