Samsung Galaxy S6 battery life is insane (how to 8+ hours sot)

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Faspaiso

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Hi

First of, to the mods. I know this belong in the battery thread, but I want to et out to as many that complain about the battery as possible, so people can get the battery life they should.

The problem with battery is bloatware and wakelocks. I'm gone from 80% deep sleep to 95%+ by flashing XtreStoLite. I lose less than a % over a night (10 hours). My Wakelocks is less than a % and 2% on a bad day.

After i flashed XtreStoLite my battery life got almost doubled. I have same apps installed as before besides all the bloatware. Only a few must have samsung apps.

Before this I barely hit 4 hours sot on mobile data and now I easy get 5 and 8+ on wifi.

After the rom and all the apps are installed, install greenify and hibernate all the apps that you don't need push notifications on. The first few days check greenify to cut off wake up paths. I have greenified every single app besides messenger.

Last thing is disable services. With the app disable services.

com.google.android.gms.analytics.service.Analytics Service

com.google.android.gms/com.android.location.internal.GoogleLocationManage rService(Location Service) I have found out that it will not allow you to change settings on your wear if disabled or sync watch faces or their settings. So if I get a new watch face I just enable it again, configure the face and disable the service again afterwards.

com.android.gms.Feedback.FeedbackService(Breaks Play Games)

com.android.gms.ads.AdRequestBrokerService

com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.network.NetworkLocatio nService(Location Service)

com.google.android.location.geofencer.service.Geof encerProviderService(GPS Service)

com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.copresence.service.Pro ximitySettingInjectorService

com.facebook.katana/com.facebook.analytics.service.AnalyticsService

com.facebook.orca/com.facebook.analytics.service.AnalyticsService

If you know what you're doing you can disable from more apps.

Last, remember to backup!

Feel free to ask any questions you may have!
 
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Faspaiso

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Whats your standby time though?

Well, only had it for a few days. Got 16 hours yesterday with 61% left. :) With high usage (5+ hours SOT, so that decrease standby time by a bit)

It's the standby time that mainly increased doing this. I just checked my Partial Wakelocks in BetterBatteryStats and they're all showing 0%.
 

woeds

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Are location services for running apps still working after disabling those services? Does Google Maps still work for example?
 
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Faspaiso

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Are location services for running apps still working after disabling those services? Does Google Maps still work for example?

It's working "fine". Just longer to set location first time. I think the reason Google Play Services is running rampant, is because it's getting our location all the time with Mobile data (google services is under control on Wifi).

So yeah, works fine. Just takes a little longer to get loc.
 

tiagovale2

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What do you use your device for, may I ask?

I mean:
  1. What apps do you use the most? (especially interested about Facebook, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, Instagram, Google Photos and Spotify/Deezer
  2. Do you use wifi and/or 4G? If so, do you use them always on? If not, how many hours average per day?
  3. I assume you have location always off, right?
  4. Disabling location service and GPS service affects only high accuracy location or does it also affects low accuracy (by data/wifi)?
  5. Auto brightness on/off?
  6. Fingerprint unlock on/off?
  7. Sync always off?
  8. S-Health, Google Fit or neither?
  9. Any messaging app beside the SMS one?

I'm sorry for the wall of questions, but I want to find out the reason for the huge disparity between some SoT I've seen (7 and 8 hours) and mine (top 3 hours).
My usage is very different from many I've seen, i.e., I use Facebook Messenger + WhatsApp + Hangouts, Facebook + Insta + Snapchat, Reddit Sync syncing, Google Photos syncing, ~1 hour of Spotify/Deezer a day, wifi + 4G always on and fingerprint unlock, but is that a reason to have less 5 hours SoT than many we've seen in the S6's Battery thread?
 
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Faspaiso

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What do you use your device for, may I ask?

I mean:
  1. What apps do you use the most? (especially interested about Facebook, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, Instagram, Google Photos and Spotify/Deezer
  2. Do you use wifi and/or 4G? If so, do you use them always on? If not, how many hours average per day?
  3. I assume you have location always off, right?
  4. Disabling location service and GPS service affects only high accuracy location or does it also affects low accuracy (by data/wifi)?
  5. Auto brightness on/off?
  6. Fingerprint unlock on/off?
  7. Sync always off?
  8. S-Health, Google Fit or neither?
  9. Any messaging app beside the SMS one?

I'm sorry for the wall of questions, but I want to find out the reason for the huge disparity between some SoT I've seen (7 and 8 hours) and mine (top 3 hours).
My usage is very different from many I've seen, i.e., I use Facebook Messenger + WhatsApp + Hangouts, Facebook + Insta + Snapchat, Reddit Sync syncing, Google Photos syncing, ~1 hour of Spotify/Deezer a day, wifi + 4G always on and fingerprint unlock, but is that a reason to have less 5 hours SoT than many we've seen in the S6's Battery thread?

1. I mainly use Facebook (Tinfoil), Snapchat, Facebook messenger, Google Chrome and Spotify. I got Instagram too, but hibernated with greenify. Only opening it when needing it. No need for it to always check for push notifications.
2. I mainly use 3g, wifi at home. 4g if streaming. The 4g signal in my area is 1/5, so I rarely use it if I want my battery staying alive.
3. I have location and bluetooth on always (always connected to my wear). Location is on GPS only tho.
4. I have absolutely no idea. My GPS works "fine". Maps works great, just takes a little longer to get location (as it don't know my connection always right now from Mobile Data). I think that's what is causing the Google Play Services drain on Mobile Data. Constantly getting location even when location is off.
5. Auto Brightness on, pixel filter (black pixels) at night or late evening. (would use this anyway. It saves my eyes at night.)
6. Fingerprint unlock is on.
7. Auto sync off. Tasker profiles sync ever 3 hour and every 8 at night.
8. Neither of those. I use Endomondo for fit activity.
9. No, Messenger, stock sms app and Snapchat is the "messenger" apps I use.
 

tiagovale2

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1. I mainly use Facebook (Tinfoil), Snapchat, Facebook messenger, Google Chrome and Spotify. I got Instagram too, but hibernated with greenify. Only opening it when needing it. No need for it to always check for push notifications.
2. I mainly use 3g, wifi at home. 4g if streaming. The 4g signal in my area is 1/5, so I rarely use it if I want my battery staying alive.
3. I have location and bluetooth on always (always connected to my wear). Location is on GPS only tho.
4. I have absolutely no idea. My GPS works "fine". Maps works great, just takes a little longer to get location (as it don't know my connection always right now from Mobile Data). I think that's what is causing the Google Play Services drain on Mobile Data. Constantly getting location even when location is off.
5. Auto Brightness on, pixel filter (black pixels) at night or late evening. (would use this anyway. It saves my eyes at night.)
6. Fingerprint unlock is on.
7. Auto sync off. Tasker profiles sync ever 3 hour and every 8 at night.
8. Neither of those. I use Endomondo for fit activity.
9. No, Messenger, stock sms app and Snapchat is the "messenger" apps I use.

So, based on your answers:
1. Uninstalled Facebook and will give Tinfoil a try.
2. Disabled 4G, because I too get 1/5 or 2/5 constantly.
5. Installed Pixel Filter (trying it out at 75%).

As soon as I get home I'll buy Greenify and Tasker too.

As I never used Tasker I don't know this, but can I set a profile where Pixel Filter is enabled between certain time, e.g., 21h-09h?

I'll full charge at night and I'll see if it gets any better.
Thank you for the answers.
 
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Faspaiso

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So, based on your answers:
1. Uninstalled Facebook and will give Tinfoil a try.
2. Disabled 4G, because I too get 1/5 or 2/5 constantly.
5. Installed Pixel Filter (trying it out at 75%).

As soon as I get home I'll buy Greenify and Tasker too.

As I never used Tasker I don't know this, but can I set a profile where Pixel Filter is enabled between certain time, e.g., 21h-09h?

I'll full charge at night and I'll see if it gets any better.
Thank you for the answers.

Pixel Filter just got a tasker plugin, so yes you can.

Profile->Time->Set time->Task->Plugins->Pixel Filter->Configure it. It will take some time to get into tasker, but it can automate almost anything. Like I use mine to start music when headset is plugged, root kill Google Maps when closed (it runs in the background and drain battery) and so on.

It might be pretty dark at 75% tho. At the day I run 12-25% (tasker plugin with light sensor), disabled in full day light from the sun, and 50-75% at night.

Yeah, low cell connection kills battery a lot.

I don't think this alone will help a lot tho. Definitely a little. But I did all this on stock rom too (but I got 3-5 hours SoT tho) so still better than yours. But after I flashed XtreStoLite and got all the bloatware removed, my battery life began shining.

Greenify is free tho. Only needing it if you need to hibernate system apps. I did it, but you don't really need to.
 

tiagovale2

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Dec 3, 2010
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Pixel Filter just got a tasker plugin, so yes you can.

Profile->Time->Set time->Task->Plugins->Pixel Filter->Configure it. It will take some time to get into tasker, but it can automate almost anything. Like I use mine to start music when headset is plugged, root kill Google Maps when closed (it runs in the background and drain battery) and so on.

It might be pretty dark at 75% tho. At the day I run 12-25% (tasker plugin with light sensor), disabled in full day light from the sun, and 50-75% at night.

Yeah, low cell connection kills battery a lot.

I don't think this alone will help a lot tho. Definitely a little. But I did all this on stock rom too (but I got 3-5 hours SoT tho) so still better than yours. But after I flashed XtreStoLite and got all the bloatware removed, my battery life began shining.

Greenify is free tho. Only needing it if you need to hibernate system apps. I did it, but you don't really need to.

75% seemed fine inside my office, it's quite dark in here. But yea, you're right. Once I get tasker I'll customize it properly.
And I thought Greenify existed in donation version only, it's good to know.

Do you have your S6 underclocked?
 
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Faspaiso

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75% seemed fine inside my office, it's quite dark in here. But yea, you're right. Once I get tasker I'll customize it properly.
And I thought Greenify existed in donation version only, it's good to know.

Do you have your S6 underclocked?

I had, then I read that it can be dump to underclock it too much, since a task takes longer to do, so it takes more time before the CPU gets into a idle state again.

Then it's better to get it done fast, so it can sleep again.

But at stock rom, all CPU speeds was used and 1500 was used pretty much of the time (CPU SPY). But after I flashed the debloated rom, it is on 400 MHz 98% of the time and 2% on 900 MHz (not counting deep sleep as a CPU state here) and the others are on less than a percentage. So something uses the CPU a lot on stock rom. I hit 1500 MHz by opening apps or browsing the internet at times.
 

Simplyeduardo

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I had, then I read that it can be dump to underclock it too much, since a task takes longer to do, so it takes more time before the CPU gets into a idle state again.

Then it's better to get it done fast, so it can sleep again.

But at stock rom, all CPU speeds was used and 1500 was used pretty much of the time (CPU SPY). But after I flashed the debloated rom, it is on 400 MHz 98% of the time and 2% on 900 MHz (not counting deep sleep as a CPU state here) and the others are on less than a percentage. So something uses the CPU a lot on stock rom. I hit 1500 MHz by opening apps or browsing the internet at times.


how do you make a s6 go to 3g
 

madnav

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1. I mainly use Facebook (Tinfoil), Snapchat, Facebook messenger, Google Chrome and Spotify. I got Instagram too, but hibernated with greenify. Only opening it when needing it. No need for it to always check for push notifications.
2. I mainly use 3g, wifi at home. 4g if streaming. The 4g signal in my area is 1/5, so I rarely use it if I want my battery staying alive.
3. I have location and bluetooth on always (always connected to my wear). Location is on GPS only tho.
4. I have absolutely no idea. My GPS works "fine". Maps works great, just takes a little longer to get location (as it don't know my connection always right now from Mobile Data). I think that's what is causing the Google Play Services drain on Mobile Data. Constantly getting location even when location is off.
5. Auto Brightness on, pixel filter (black pixels) at night or late evening. (would use this anyway. It saves my eyes at night.)
6. Fingerprint unlock is on.
7. Auto sync off. Tasker profiles sync ever 3 hour and every 8 at night.
8. Neither of those. I use Endomondo for fit activity.
9. No, Messenger, stock sms app and Snapchat is the "messenger" apps I use.

Could you please try a day with Auto Sync ON and let us know the results? (Standby and screen-ON time)
I would like to see how much that affects battery as I can not keep it off due to this having my work email as well configured.
Thanks in advance.
 
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Faspaiso

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Could you please try a day with Auto Sync ON and let us know the results? (Standby and screen-ON time)
I would like to see how much that affects battery as I can not keep it off due to this having my work email as well configured.
Thanks in advance.

I can try it tomorrow! :) Will give a review before go to bed tomorrow then!
 

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    Yeah, please please please :D

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    OK, sorry I almost forgot.

    So in Disable Services app:
    3rd party section:

    Calendar : consistencyreportingservice
    chronus (widget): chronusdaydream
    newsfeedupdateservice
    newsfeedviewservice
    weatherextension
    weatherupdateservice

    dolphin: push service
    Facebook: analyticsservice
    fbwallpaperservice
    packageremovedreporterservice
    selfupdatefetchservice
    vaultsyncservice
    vaultupdateservice
    Google+: gcmlocatoinreportingsuggestionservice
    gcmlocationservice
    silentfeedbackservice (I mean really google? lol)
    updateschedulerservice
    Instagram: selfupdateservice
    Maps: senduserfeedbackservice
    Messenger (part of FB): analyticsservice
    My Money Network (for my work, they deposit tips to a card): analyticsservice
    Pandora: Pushnotificationprocessor
    Peel Smart Remote: reportingservice
    XDA: billingservice

    System Section:

    Android System: geofencehardwareservice
    com.sec.bcservice: broadcastservice
    Google App: locationreportingoptinhelper$ulroptinservice
    Google Backup Transport Service: All services (may break backing up so do it manually from time to time)
    Play Services: (I get rare, but occasional random play service error but functions fine still)
    Advertisingidnotificationservice
    Advertisingidservice
    Analyticsservice
    Analyticsuploadservice
    Coreanalyticsintentservice
    googlelocationmanagerservice
    locationsharingsettinginjectorservice
    Proximitysettinginjectorservice
    workaccountauthenticatorservice
    Google Play Store: Recommendationsviewservice
    Wearchangelistenerservice (I don't use watches)
    Wearsupportservice
    Google Services Framework: Checkinservice
    Eventlogservice
    systemupdateservice (on a rom, so I'll update when they come out)
    My Interests: requestservice
    screenonstatecatchservice (wtf?)
    Samsung Account: backgroundmodeservice
    loggingservice
    pushmarketingservice
    requestservice
    updatecheckservice
    Theme Store: autoselfupdateservice


    So far that's all I have, I'm sure there are many more. It just takes time to disable one or two at a time and see if it screws anything up long term. So far everything works fine for me without any issues except the rare but occasional play services error. It happens maybe once every day or two. No big deal. I also greenify ANY app that doesn't need to be open all of the time. Like I use Voxer for work, so I have to keep it open but FB, G+, Instagram etc can all be greenified and just open them when you need them.

    Happy battery life tweaking!!! I'll update the post anytime I find new services that don't break anything. Some might do nothing, but collectively it sure seems to help! With only 25% ish lost to screen with over 7 hrs, there's clearly a lot being lost to the system, apps, and well not much we can do about processor loss but underclock helps a little there too, I guess. I don't want to dip into performance since that kind of negates the point of newer better stuff, but so far it hasn't at all. In fact, as I noticed in the cpu stats, it never even goes above about 1000 MHz on the little set and 1500 MHz on the big set no matter what I set the clock speed cap at anyway.
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    This system in the OP works for certain. I just hit over 7 hrs of sot! ! That's more than I've ever done on any phone ever.

    My setup:
    I'm on xtrestolite 2.3 so less bloat already. I have Samsung push, market feedback, galaxy apps and a few others disabled. Also in disable services I have any analytics, location, silent feedback, and update services I could find (there's a lot, at least 25 to 30 I'll try to list them later when I get home).

    Running arter97 kernel as well with slight underclock on max cpu speed but the irony there is that looking at my cpu stats for that 23 hr run... it now spends over 80% of its time at minimum clock or deep sleep. That means my underclock has no effect and also that the principle theory of the original poster is right. Disabling all of the misc unnecessary background tasks keeps the cpu from doing work that you aren't telling it to do and letting it stay clocked lower and sleep much longer and better.
    My day of use consists of using for work to navigate deliveries across town, so lots of mapping, text for each run I get and a LOT of use in Voxer which is a two way walkie talkie app that I use to talk to my dispatch center and my friends that are also working. I also use a lot of Facebook, flipboard and google+ but oddly the second too didn't even make my usage list. Maybe g+ goes in android os? I also never use more than about 75% brightness unless needed outside.

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    op, you can change name of the topic now :pP
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    5 hours SOT. Not rooted, auto brightness at 50-100%, connected to wifi the whole time. Doing basic stuff like web browsing and other average joe stuff.

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    Well haven't been at the end of a battery cycle since I flashed. Maybe tomorrow. Will be out all day with 4g on.

    6 pages of only words? Where are the photos of that's 8 hours of screen? We're is the grafic of the batery? Without that this are useless.